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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: MojaveMyc]
#28366693 - 06/20/23 06:45 AM (7 months, 5 days ago) |
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You have a talking guinea pig???
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Smoothcat] 3
#28366696 - 06/20/23 06:49 AM (7 months, 5 days ago) |
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Guinea pig, test dummy, best bud who receives infinite shrooms in exchange for detailed trip reports, whatever you wanna call it
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: MojaveMyc]
#28366792 - 06/20/23 08:15 AM (7 months, 5 days ago) |
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MojaveMyc said: Guinea pig, test dummy, best bud who receives infinite shrooms in exchange for detailed trip reports, whatever you wanna call it 
I have one of them too! Got it on sale at the local Big box pet store.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Bigworm]
#28368056 - 06/21/23 01:17 AM (7 months, 4 days ago) |
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Question, hope someone can answer this for me. I made a calc error and made way too much grain spawn. Ended up with 20 jars of subtropicalis. All clean, but what to do with all that spawn? I won't be able to grow it all out at the same time. So I wondered if anyone knows how long the spawn remains viable after 100% colonization.
 All jars are around 50 colonized.. was a bit too late shaking them.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] 1
#28368059 - 06/21/23 01:20 AM (7 months, 4 days ago) |
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0t0lerance said: Question, hope someone can answer this for me. I made a calc error and made way too much grain spawn. Ended up with 20 jars of subtropicalis. All clean, but what to do with all that spawn? I won't be able to grow it all out at the same time. So I wondered if anyone knows how long the spawn remains viable after 100% colonization.
 All jars are around 50 colonized.. was a bit too late shaking them.

I'd say weeks if not months at room temperature. you can also put them in the fridge. i have grown out cubensis spawn that was in the fridge for months.
I'd let them consolidate for a week or two after 100% and then store them in the fridge.
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Edited by chris77 (06/21/23 01:22 AM)
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: chris77] 2
#28368411 - 06/21/23 08:35 AM (7 months, 4 days ago) |
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Sorry I'm at work and can't spend too much time searching this. I think someone on here said that the longer the grain consolidated, it made pinning faster. I think I remember someone (can't remember who) with a jar almost a year old and it had a myc layer they harvested to see if it was active. So I would imagine if I'm correct with that, they would be fine for a couple months.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Bigworm] 5
#28368481 - 06/21/23 09:43 AM (7 months, 4 days ago) |
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I have some 2 year old Semperviva on grain. You should be fine to store some jars at room temp. Maybe even forget a jar or two for mycelium tek?
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] 8
#28368491 - 06/21/23 09:51 AM (7 months, 4 days ago) |
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So this may sound crazy, but subtropicalis does in fact have very active mycelium. I have let jars go 2 months after full colonization and then just shaken and dried the grain.
Then a tea made from the dried grain (not even ground up) yields approximately a 1 gram strong dose equivalent per 10 grams dried grain. (very approximate estimation right now)
1 myco-quart/liter of grain yields approximately 150 grams of dried myceliated grain.

Also great for making gummies.
Edit: Yoshi beat me. So now it doesn't sound as crazy. Right? Right guys? In theory, the longer they sit the more potent they get, but I can't confirm or deny this yet.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc] 3
#28368609 - 06/21/23 11:25 AM (7 months, 4 days ago) |
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Yeah you know what I still havenโt sampled that myc skin yet. Should prob get on that.
I think it was like 4 months it sat around.

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: A.k.a]
#28368619 - 06/21/23 11:33 AM (7 months, 4 days ago) |
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A.k.a said: Yeah you know what I still havenโt sampled that myc skin yet. Should prob get on that.
I think it was like 4 months it sat around.
 
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: A.k.a]
#28368660 - 06/21/23 12:10 PM (7 months, 4 days ago) |
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A.k.a said: Yeah you know what I still havenโt sampled that myc skin yet. Should prob get on that.
I think it was like 4 months it sat around.
 
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc] 1
#28368752 - 06/21/23 01:26 PM (7 months, 4 days ago) |
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It's been 46 days since I spawned my buckets. All smell shroomy, no sign of contaminations. yet NO PINS yet.
  Can't wait anymore and have no other choice but to wait.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: psilocybist] 2
#28368770 - 06/21/23 01:38 PM (7 months, 4 days ago) |
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psilocybist said:
  Can't wait anymore and have no other choice but to wait. 
The mushrooms can sense this, it makes them grow even slower! ๐
Subtropicalis makes active mycelium, consider starting a jar/bag and forget about it for awhile. No bulk, casing or FC needed!
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: YoshiTrainer] 6
#28368785 - 06/21/23 01:48 PM (7 months, 4 days ago) |
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Cakes were from back in February, they gave one half assed flush inside but were pretty neglected. Buried June 6th.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc] 4
#28369538 - 06/22/23 12:21 AM (7 months, 3 days ago) |
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ReverendMyc said: Then a tea made from the dried grain (not even ground up) yields approximately a 1 gram strong dose equivalent per 10 grams dried grain. (very approximate estimation right now)
1 myco-quart/liter of grain yields approximately 150 grams of dried myceliated grain.
Hey Rev,
Am I reading this right? One myco quart of two-month old colonized semp grain has like 15 grams of fruit worth of actives? So like 15 one-gram trips worth?
I had read it was active but holy cowzilla.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc] 2
#28369590 - 06/22/23 01:47 AM (7 months, 3 days ago) |
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Quote:
ReverendMyc said: So this may sound crazy, but subtropicalis does in fact have very active mycelium. I have let jars go 2 months after full colonization and then just shaken and dried the grain.
Then a tea made from the dried grain (not even ground up) yields approximately a 1 gram strong dose equivalent per 10 grams dried grain. (very approximate estimation right now)
1 myco-quart/liter of grain yields approximately 150 grams of dried myceliated grain.

Also great for making gummies.
Edit: Yoshi beat me. So now it doesn't sound as crazy. Right? Right guys? In theory, the longer they sit the more potent they get, but I can't confirm or deny this yet.
It does sound crazy, and I'm keeping this post on the computer to try it at some point
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: YoshiTrainer] 2
#28369599 - 06/22/23 02:14 AM (7 months, 3 days ago) |
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YoshiTrainer said:
Quote:
psilocybist said:
  Can't wait anymore and have no other choice but to wait. 
The mushrooms can sense this, it makes them grow even slower! ๐
Subtropicalis makes active mycelium, consider starting a jar/bag and forget about it for awhile. No bulk, casing or FC needed!
Yoshi, this begs the question; does the active mycelium also contain the trip 'quality' of this mushroom? If so.. that would be a game changer.. (clean spawn no problem, but I tend to struggle fruiting anything the past 6 months.. )
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] 3
#28369661 - 06/22/23 04:45 AM (7 months, 3 days ago) |
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0t0lerance said: Question, hope someone can answer this for me. I made a calc error and made way too much grain spawn. Ended up with 20 jars of subtropicalis. All clean, but what to do with all that spawn? I won't be able to grow it all out at the same time. So I wondered if anyone knows how long the spawn remains viable after 100% colonization.
 All jars are around 50 colonized.. was a bit too late shaking them.

I'm currently fruiting a jar that was older than a year. Stored at room temp (22-28 at different seasons). I've been keeping them for myc grain tek, but decided to give it a chance to fruit. Left a couple though, will test tea on a guinea pig, haha!
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Konbri] 3
#28369705 - 06/22/23 06:20 AM (7 months, 3 days ago) |
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Konbri said: I'm currently fruiting a jar that was older than a year. Stored at room temp (22-28 at different seasons). I've been keeping them for myc grain tek, but decided to give it a chance to fruit. Left a couple though, will test tea on a guinea pig, haha!
1 year?! doesn't the grain dry out severely? Let me know if it's still viable after such a long consolidation phase, very curious. Would make me more comfortable keeping it around for a few months.
(btw look at this.. 24h post-shaking.. fast recovery due to the warm temperatures currently in the Netherlands)
Edited by 0t0lerance (06/22/23 07:04 AM)
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] 1
#28369886 - 06/22/23 09:47 AM (7 months, 3 days ago) |
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0t0lerance said: Yoshi, this begs the question; does the active mycelium also contain the trip 'quality' of this mushroom? If so.. that would be a game changer.. (clean spawn no problem, but I tend to struggle fruiting anything the past 6 months.. )
I haven't tried heavy doses of either. The grain's trip seems similar in how clean and vibrant it is to the mushrooms. IMHO, people should make a jar of myc tek when they make a jar of spawn, it is just too easy. I'll dig out my 2 year old Semp bag for you, storing a couple months is a breeze!
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