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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] 1
#28351751 - 06/08/23 07:54 AM (7 months, 17 days ago) |
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0t0lerance said: That was the most intense trip I've had.. no words...
if you find the time at a later point, i would really like to hear more from your experience. welcome back

Thank you, I'm alive and never have been more grateful than just being alive.. and that I did not go insane forever. I can't put it into words, normally I still remember some things. But this thing instantly destroyed me.. infinite endless.. timeless.. non-stop spiralling.. infinitely creating everything is everything.. everywhere.. forever.. is all.. in all.. vast.. too immense to comprehend.. spirals everywhere endless sea infinitely spiralling...
I feel like a rodent trying to comprehend math... it can't....and so I can't know the immeasurable.. I asked, but the answers where beyond.. and that I had to deal with that fact, it's beyond comprehension and everything in me just shut down in awe.. A lesson I got so far was just to see and the seeing is the compassion for all life... For we are all one... But apart from that no memory.. just insane intensity.. I just had to breathe.. or whatever that was.. just keep that rhythm going.. it was brutal.. and I feel like sleeping now..and I put on the wrong playlist, so when I got back I heard a song I was expecting on the peak.. but it did not matter, I did not hear the music at all.. nor that it mattered..
Felt it come on at 9.50.. 14.00 I felt I returned.. however still feel shaken from it.. 3 hours later.. so yeah, trips lasted 4 hours total.. no waves.. just blast-off from the start. Made an acidified tea:

Thanks for the report! 
Sounds like my kind of semperviva trip. being shattered into millions of pieces, and feeling each piece dying and rebirthing in paralel dimensions 
How were the closed eye visuals? Intricate tapestry from ineffable worlds? Did the mushroom interact with you?
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: odissey] 4
#28352074 - 06/08/23 12:33 PM (7 months, 17 days ago) |
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0t0lerance said: That was the most intense trip I've had.. no words...
if you find the time at a later point, i would really like to hear more from your experience. welcome back

Thank you, I'm alive and never have been more grateful than just being alive.. and that I did not go insane forever. I can't put it into words, normally I still remember some things. But this thing instantly destroyed me.. infinite endless.. timeless.. non-stop spiralling.. infinitely creating everything is everything.. everywhere.. forever.. is all.. in all.. vast.. too immense to comprehend.. spirals everywhere endless sea infinitely spiralling...
I feel like a rodent trying to comprehend math... it can't....and so I can't know the immeasurable.. I asked, but the answers where beyond.. and that I had to deal with that fact, it's beyond comprehension and everything in me just shut down in awe.. A lesson I got so far was just to see and the seeing is the compassion for all life... For we are all one... But apart from that no memory.. just insane intensity.. I just had to breathe.. or whatever that was.. just keep that rhythm going.. it was brutal.. and I feel like sleeping now..and I put on the wrong playlist, so when I got back I heard a song I was expecting on the peak.. but it did not matter, I did not hear the music at all.. nor that it mattered..
Felt it come on at 9.50.. 14.00 I felt I returned.. however still feel shaken from it.. 3 hours later.. so yeah, trips lasted 4 hours total.. no waves.. just blast-off from the start. Made an acidified tea:

Thanks for the report! 
Sounds like my kind of semperviva trip. being shattered into millions of pieces, and feeling each piece dying and rebirthing in paralel dimensions 
How were the closed eye visuals? Intricate tapestry from ineffable worlds? Did the mushroom interact with you?
Yeah there was communication going on, but I don't know how to 'word' it. Cev's were primarily dark with 'some' color.. like the twilight zone, but I don't recall the color.. it was just an ocean no distinct worlds, swirling with loads of vortexes / eddy's everywhere... Vortexes inside vortexes.. endless.. and just traveling in those vortexes.. you know that wormhole scene from interstellar.. that grimness to it.. but way faster and I don't know man.. I just don't remember 
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance]
#28352514 - 06/08/23 07:01 PM (7 months, 17 days ago) |
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Sounds just like my dmt experience
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance]
#28352728 - 06/08/23 10:45 PM (7 months, 16 days ago) |
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I'm getting really excited to get these strong genetics going to try them @0t0lerence. Too bad I have to be patient! Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: shruglife] 12
#28352734 - 06/08/23 10:50 PM (7 months, 16 days ago) |
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They shot towards the (side mounted) light, then after about 1.5 weeks went straight up.
The straight ones in back furthest from the light are maturing slower. Interesting!
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: shruglife] 5
#28352744 - 06/08/23 11:11 PM (7 months, 16 days ago) |
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Coming back from a work trip and seeing 0t0lerance's crazy dosage report... Holy Shit! I'm defo not ready for that 
I have 3 rye jars of the slow genetics that I have straight cased with cactus soil, 9 days ago. I wanted to see if it would result in faster pinning time. I already see knotting on the casing - fingers' crossed.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Melgo] 1
#28352937 - 06/09/23 06:50 AM (7 months, 16 days ago) |
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Have had an experience just like that report with cubes. Endless rebrith and dying. Being torn apart for infinity. Never even been close to that power with exotics.
Had a few pints ready to go but emergency surgery had me dump it all in a patch outside. Hopefully some outdoor fruits this year.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: rockyfungus] 2
#28353138 - 06/09/23 10:55 AM (7 months, 16 days ago) |
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Hey folks. What else should I do to force my subs to start pinning?  It's been around 40 days since I spawned to sub, all colonized fully, cased, casing all colonized. Everything smells shroomy and healthy. Still no pin. I'm out of patience.  The casing has a much whispier myc than the substrate had before casing applied. Daily misting, last 7 days. No pin whatsoever. WTF. WTF. WTFFFFFF
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: psilocybist]
#28353146 - 06/09/23 11:00 AM (7 months, 16 days ago) |
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psilocybist said: Hey folks. What else should I do to force my subs to start pinning?  It's been around 40 days since I spawned to sub, all colonized fully, cased, casing all colonized. Everything smells shroomy and healthy. Still no pin. I'm out of patience.  The casing has a much whispier myc than the substrate had before casing applied. Daily misting, last 7 days. No pin whatsoever. WTF. WTF. WTFFFFFF
wow, 40 days.. Substrate too wet? i guess not. hmm . i hope you keep the patience and that you will be rewarded
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: chris77] 1
#28353208 - 06/09/23 12:14 PM (7 months, 16 days ago) |
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Nope, it was under field capacity. Colonization on grains, as well as the sub, took as long as expected for the slow lineage. But waiting for the pins is killing me. As a side note, sub was supplemented toward nutrient richness, maybe that's the reason. But still should have seen pins by far
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: psilocybist] 2
#28353217 - 06/09/23 12:22 PM (7 months, 16 days ago) |
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psilocybist said: Hey folks. What else should I do to force my subs to start pinning?  It's been around 40 days since I spawned to sub, all colonized fully, cased, casing all colonized. Everything smells shroomy and healthy. Still no pin. I'm out of patience.  The casing has a much whispier myc than the substrate had before casing applied. Daily misting, last 7 days. No pin whatsoever. WTF. WTF. WTFFFFFF
Give it 2-3 more months. That will do the trick as long as all is clean.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: psilocybist] 1
#28353238 - 06/09/23 12:53 PM (7 months, 16 days ago) |
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psilocybist said: Hey folks. What else should I do to force my subs to start pinning?  It's been around 40 days since I spawned to sub, all colonized fully, cased, casing all colonized. Everything smells shroomy and healthy. Still no pin. I'm out of patience.  The casing has a much whispier myc than the substrate had before casing applied. Daily misting, last 7 days. No pin whatsoever. WTF. WTF. WTFFFFFF
What kind of casing? I've done a pseudo casing with coir and it did NOT work. I imagine a verm/coir casing would produce similar results. That said I see a lot of success here with it, but it just hasn't worked for me personally. Cactus soil casing is where I've had great success.
Additionally, I still need to duplicate the results more before I'm confident about this, but my most successful and fastest pinsets have come from trays that were covered during the consolidation phase. I covered with plastic wrap essentially blocking off all FAE and the mycelium consolidated much faster. Once consolidated I uncovered and put my layer of under-hydrated cactus soil and it seems to trigger pinning pretty quickly.
I've tried leaving them uncased or pseudo-cased with coir and they just sit there forever.
Take this with a grain of salt because I'm working with the faster lineage. I'm putting the slow strain on agar this weekend to see how that goes!
This is somewhat consistent with what chris77 posted a little ways back too...
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Fae was restricted until pins arrived, then the box was just unlatched but the lid not flipped.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: shruglife]
#28353561 - 06/09/23 06:02 PM (7 months, 16 days ago) |
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I thought I read a few pages back about letting the surface dry out for a few days then misting to induce pinning. Or is this old thought and I missed that.
Found it.
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Hindsight said: Finally, after nearly two months, my semps are pinning. I can't recall how many attempts at this I've made but I'm just happy to finally see them. A few pages back, someone suggested letting the casing dry out a bit then re-hydrating it. I tried that since it had been so long and within 6 days pins started showing. Part of it too could be that during the rehydration, my tent was putting out just a bit too much fog and it flooded the surface while I was out of town for 4 days - not bad but like 1-2mm of water pooling. I could see pins under the water. I poured the water off, patched the casing, and a pretty dense looking pinset is now coming in.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Bigworm]
#28353874 - 06/09/23 10:24 PM (7 months, 15 days ago) |
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Hey Friendly Semperviva community!
So, I have one fully colonized quart jar of millet with the slow lineage. It is a T2 plate tiger dropped into the jar 11 days ago, finished colonizing today. I colonized it in a wide-mouth quart thinking I would do a jar grow, but I am re-thinking.
If you had a nice looking colonized quart jar, what would you do? I have generally done shoe boxes with my cubes and bags for stones. Never done semps before and am really looking forward to the fruits.
Anything is fair game, what would you like to see done? Got an experiment you haven’t been able to try yet?
Is it a good idea to let it sit in the jar for a while before spawning to maybe get the pins popping without it being in the shoe box for two months? Think I saw that thrown around here a while back.
Thanks, Phlanx
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: phlanx]
#28353882 - 06/09/23 10:42 PM (7 months, 15 days ago) |
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G2G2G2G! 😀
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: YoshiTrainer]
#28353885 - 06/09/23 10:47 PM (7 months, 15 days ago) |
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Hey Yoshi,
Haha, yeah I considered that. I already have some other plates moving along, so I figured I would go for a grow.
Thanks, Phlanx
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: phlanx]
#28353919 - 06/09/23 11:40 PM (7 months, 15 days ago) |
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Thanks all, yeah it was a coir/verm mix used as the casing. I'll divide my buckets into 3 groups. one I'll expose to low temps for a few days, one under sunlight while covered in clear wrap, and the last I'll re-case. I'll also electrify some of them to see if it'll do anything to trigger them into pinning. Just trying.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: psilocybist]
#28353936 - 06/10/23 12:10 AM (7 months, 15 days ago) |
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psilocybist said: Thanks all, yeah it was a coir/verm mix used as the casing. I'll divide my buckets into 3 groups. one I'll expose to low temps for a few days, one under sunlight while covered in clear wrap, and the last I'll re-case. I'll also electrify some of them to see if it'll do anything to trigger them into pinning. Just trying.
this got me thinking. mine had plenty of sunlight (window covered with thick white paper) , no artificial light at all. i dont know, maybe its irrelevant.
for the jars, i had one shoebox from a very well consolidated ultra thick jar, the other was just consolidated nicely. results (harvest weight) same same. pinning too ..
edit: colonized surface was always covered in beads of moisture.
cheers
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Edited by chris77 (06/10/23 12:19 AM)
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: psilocybist]
#28354160 - 06/10/23 07:23 AM (7 months, 15 days ago) |
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psilocybist said: Thanks all, yeah it was a coir/verm mix used as the casing. I'll divide my buckets into 3 groups. one I'll expose to low temps for a few days, one under sunlight while covered in clear wrap, and the last I'll re-case. I'll also electrify some of them to see if it'll do anything to trigger them into pinning. Just trying.
None of that worked for me. Usually slower type doesn't knot for me in less than two months on coir. Peat casing gave me knotting in about month's time. Drying, dunking, putting outside in cold weather - no effect whatsoever ime.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Konbri] 2
#28354439 - 06/10/23 11:51 AM (7 months, 15 days ago) |
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With my slow culture my old technique was to beat the shit out of it! Break the fucking sub up because it was being stubborn.
They are derrumbe after all?

I don't condone beating them up anymore as patience will always win
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