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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] 1
#28347916 - 06/05/23 07:45 AM (7 months, 20 days ago) |
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These are no-pours correct (aliens holy agar plates). The agar shouldn't be the source of contamination, I never had a contaminant prepping them. Apart from that every plate has been sitting, doing nothing for a week (part of my procedure) prior to use. T0 was water agar.. I usually don't get contaminants riding along.. but apparently something looks off here.. so maybe I made a boo boo there (too close to the center of germination).
yeah, thats what i thought. with nopours my contamination rate is close to zero aswell. maybe someone with nore semperviva experience can chime in..
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: chris77] 1
#28347925 - 06/05/23 07:57 AM (7 months, 20 days ago) |
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Could it just be moisture from the lid falling onto the plate?
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: milkboy] 1
#28348178 - 06/05/23 12:21 PM (7 months, 20 days ago) |
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I'd assume funk myself and quickly transfer from the robust section. Sometimes I do wonder, if on certain transfers I don't cool my scalpel enough and weaken the mycelium at the point of contact? Maybe a thing?
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Melgo] 7
#28348419 - 06/05/23 03:37 PM (7 months, 20 days ago) |
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Melgo said: 20 days from pins to harvest doesn't surprise me. At what T° are they growing?
With the fast lineage, 1 gram isn't much for me and some others - 0.5 grams increases should be the way to go for you to find out your dosage; but then slow down at the 2.5 mark.
Sound advice, Melgo. My grow room keeps at about 78f/26c. It was crazy fast on the first run but 20 days is good by me.
So I made some gummies from my subtrops.
I planned to do about 75 grams dry to 140 gummies for 0.5g each. But I didn't have enough dry fruit handy...

... so decided to make up the last 17 grams using the equivalent in myceliated grain. I did a bit of quick ciphering and decided that 1 tablespoon weighed 7 grams and 2 tablespoons felt like about 1 gram to me, so at 15 grams of grain to about 1 gram of fruit, 255 grams should be about equal to the target 17 extra grams.
 Math is hard!
So while the first batch was curing I started a batch from nats as well. Figured might as well test a half gram dose gummy of the subs while I work.
Whoops ... again.
Not sure where my math was off, but this was a lot stronger than the 2 tablespoons of grain and the 1 gram of fruit tea that I had tried on 2 previous occasions. This was the most enjoyable light dose of any mushrooms to date.
Have a festival coming up and thought I should do a dose test. Munched it at noon thinking if I didn't feel anything in half an hour I would eat another. At a quarter after I felt nothing so figured I could go ahead and have another. But a timer went off and got busy for a couple of minutes. At 25 after, I was thankful that I waited cause they were definitely hitting now. Nice smooth climb for the next 30 minutes. I would not call it a come up because it lacked the anxiety feeling. Just getting more and more pleasant body feel and some visual bendiness but not full visuals. Familiar things looked strange, but I could continue to function and keep cooking the other batch while feeling great. Had some time distortion which is tricky when cooking, but held it together just fine. Now I get what everyone means by a cleaner feeling than cubes, but damned if I have any better description. After a couple of hours it started tapering off and I was in the after glow by 3:30 pm.
Looking forward to the festival and trying the nats and various combos of nats, tamps and subtrops.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc]
#28348508 - 06/05/23 04:46 PM (7 months, 20 days ago) |
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Looks great! Is it agar you use for gummies? If so, I'd be so grateful for a guide or recipe. How long is the shelf life? Thanks
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Konbri]
#28348558 - 06/05/23 05:23 PM (7 months, 20 days ago) |
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A little agar and a lot of gelatin. Link in my signature. Haven't worked out a vegan recipe yet.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc] 1
#28348984 - 06/05/23 11:32 PM (7 months, 19 days ago) |
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ReverendMyc said: A little agar and a lot of gelatin. Link in my signature. Haven't worked out a vegan recipe yet.
Yeah, would love to try.. maybe I'll try a batch or 'normal' candy first, see if it works out. Which flavor hides the mushrooms best (I need to buy candy flavoring separate) ?
I'm thinking about the regular vegan gummies I see people make.. and use the karo instead of sugar as explained in your instructions.. just to try if it's edible
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] 8
#28349046 - 06/06/23 01:09 AM (7 months, 19 days ago) |
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Alright.. it is time to depart. 1,45gr dried + 5,46gr fresh.. I would say around 2gr dried total.. slow growing variety
 See you on the other side..
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] 6
#28349191 - 06/06/23 06:18 AM (7 months, 19 days ago) |
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That was the most intense trip I've had.. no words...
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] 2
#28349204 - 06/06/23 06:31 AM (7 months, 19 days ago) |
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0t0lerance said: That was the most intense trip I've had.. no words...
if you find the time at a later point, i would really like to hear more from your experience. welcome back
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: chris77] 13
#28349268 - 06/06/23 07:44 AM (7 months, 19 days ago) |
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0t0lerance said: That was the most intense trip I've had.. no words...
if you find the time at a later point, i would really like to hear more from your experience. welcome back

Thank you, I'm alive and never have been more grateful than just being alive.. and that I did not go insane forever. I can't put it into words, normally I still remember some things. But this thing instantly destroyed me.. infinite endless.. timeless.. non-stop spiralling.. infinitely creating everything is everything.. everywhere.. forever.. is all.. in all.. vast.. too immense to comprehend.. spirals everywhere endless sea infinitely spiralling...
I feel like a rodent trying to comprehend math... it can't....and so I can't know the immeasurable.. I asked, but the answers where beyond.. and that I had to deal with that fact, it's beyond comprehension and everything in me just shut down in awe.. A lesson I got so far was just to see and the seeing is the compassion for all life... For we are all one... But apart from that no memory.. just insane intensity.. I just had to breathe.. or whatever that was.. just keep that rhythm going.. it was brutal.. and I feel like sleeping now..and I put on the wrong playlist, so when I got back I heard a song I was expecting on the peak.. but it did not matter, I did not hear the music at all.. nor that it mattered..
Felt it come on at 9.50.. 14.00 I felt I returned.. however still feel shaken from it.. 3 hours later.. so yeah, trips lasted 4 hours total.. no waves.. just blast-off from the start. Made an acidified tea:

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] 2
#28350282 - 06/06/23 11:07 PM (7 months, 19 days ago) |
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Dang, 2g slow growing in acidified tea!!! I'm glad you were able to find and return to your physical form!
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: YoshiTrainer] 1
#28350305 - 06/06/23 11:53 PM (7 months, 18 days ago) |
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yes, makes me wonder. did you build up to this dose? and if so, starting from where and in which increments?
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: chris77] 3
#28350327 - 06/07/23 12:51 AM (7 months, 18 days ago) |
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YoshiTrainer said: Dang, 2g slow growing in acidified tea!!! I'm glad you were able to find and return to your physical form!
Yeah,.. during the peak I opened my eyes, all the same.. when coming down I opened my eyes and memory is gradually reinstalled and reality is coming back.. including your name, for some reason you found yourself as soon as you remember your name again. Humbled to the bone.. Tweeq gave me a tip a while ago to try a cup of coffee to ground yourself again, which helped a bit, but did nothing for my energie level.
After 3 hours of doing nothing, I decides to do some cooking and make a salad.. looking at the cucumber "that is part of the nameless" .. the carrot "also devine".. for some reason you handle it with care like a precious gift, that which gives life to that vegetable after all gave to you too. But it's defies reason and understanding.. I guess all we can do is wonder and not forget.. although we do forget.. A great reset.. but yeah this is my limit, I had a massive headache after that.. still feel a light pressure now (like refraining from coffee).. and when going to bed early I still had some stroboscope flashes in front of my eyes and distorted shapes.. like speeding up a movie x5.. fortunately that disappeared before I fell asleep. But this signals to me that this was enough. During the entire trip there was no fear nor anxiety though.. just out of this world intensity.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: chris77] 1
#28350369 - 06/07/23 03:11 AM (7 months, 18 days ago) |
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chris77 said: yes, makes me wonder. did you build up to this dose? and if so, starting from where and in which increments?
I did not build to this dose incremental, after lvl 3 it feels like you take the plunge a fresh. I don't recall my higher doses, everytime is a like I haven't done it before... It's always different.. and I can't prepare either.. I almost shit myself.. I go to the toilet 10x.. make myself a fresh lemon balm tea to keep the nerves down.. and just decides 'go time' down the tea, quickly add some lemonade to get rid of the taste.. and at that moment you know there is no going back.
.. but I don't know.. this was a blackout experience and I never had a blackout, normally I can remember 'something', despite being 4 hours away and never had a headache, also no idea what I learned here.. so this is where I draw the line I guess. Maybe I change my mind in the future..
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] 1
#28350834 - 06/07/23 12:18 PM (7 months, 18 days ago) |
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I would guess 2g slow growing w/out the acidification of the tea might have been a little easier on you.
Still probably more than I could handle though!
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: YoshiTrainer]
#28350917 - 06/07/23 01:25 PM (7 months, 18 days ago) |
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I wonder if the trip would be much heavier if it was harmala based tea...
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: YoshiTrainer] 2
#28350962 - 06/07/23 02:09 PM (7 months, 18 days ago) |
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YoshiTrainer said: I would guess 2g slow growing w/out the acidification of the tea might have been a little easier on you.
Still probably more than I could handle though!
It's the only way I know, got to get back to earth before the rest of the family gets home.. But yeah, I couldn't handle this either.. 
I must amend my post by saying I feel absolutely relaxed and feels like some really deep cleaning had been done, at peace with whatever.. so I won't shy away from doing another dose like this in the future, if it works wonders for the mind.. time will tell though, to short to draw any conclusions, but so far I feel it did more 'work' somewhere, than a normal lvl 5.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Konbri] 3
#28351009 - 06/07/23 02:45 PM (7 months, 18 days ago) |
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Konbri said: I wonder if the trip would be much heavier if it was harmala based tea...
Much heavier???!!! That would actually be a gambling on sanity, for long times after the trip even.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: psilocybist]
#28351572 - 06/08/23 03:31 AM (7 months, 17 days ago) |
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Konbri said: I wonder if the trip would be much heavier if it was harmala based tea...
Much heavier???!!! That would actually be a gambling on sanity, for long times after the trip even.
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