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Offline0t0lerance
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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: odissey] * 8
    #28155332 - 01/24/23 10:53 AM (1 year, 4 days ago)

.. to be honest I can't remember much. Launch was from 0 to 100 in a few song.. after that it all went intense had no recollection of that, just that I merged.. or departed.. I don't know but it felt like I was in touch with that which is eternal. with the message that loving everyone and everything is what live is all about. I was shown the dimension where death and new live originates.. It was very emotional and I cried and moaned a number of times as it was beautiful and hard at the same time so feel this truth/revelation penetrating your system.. it's a feeling that went through every viber of my being.. as if something very precious was given to me. That it is was all going to be ok when I die.. , the message was to go back and live and love. The comedown was very rapid, felt like a baby being born.. for the first 30min I couldn't really do much.. after 2 hours I decided to walk.. looking back I was still in the 'launch' phase of my playlist.. by the time I was coming down I had some beautifull choir and song I was planning for the peak.. but for some reason it was done in 3 hours. But yeah, this was my first "good" trip on this level.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] * 4
    #28155416 - 01/24/23 12:16 PM (1 year, 4 days ago)

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... took 2gr of subtropicalis, acidified tea. Started on my voyage at 9.00.. and returned at 12.00. It was incredibly intense, lvl 5 no doubt. Was a spiritual journey and made a deep impact. Catching my breath now.




Awesome! Finally someone else confirming that it's a short-lived intense experience :lol::skol:


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] * 1
    #28155433 - 01/24/23 12:26 PM (1 year, 4 days ago)

That sounds like a great trip! Thanks for sharing.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Adas]
    #28155463 - 01/24/23 12:46 PM (1 year, 4 days ago)

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0t0lerance said:
... took 2gr of subtropicalis, acidified tea. Started on my voyage at 9.00.. and returned at 12.00. It was incredibly intense, lvl 5 no doubt. Was a spiritual journey and made a deep impact. Catching my breath now.




Awesome! Finally someone else confirming that it's a short-lived intense experience :lol::skol:




Yeah, I did have a very light breakfast 30 min before starting, just to have something in my stomac (few tablespoons of soy yogurt with a layer of crunchy muesli). But that didn't affect anything. Note that the 3h felt like the full 5 hours anyways.. but I was pleasantly surprised by the short duration, as I have a short timeframe for tripping so this suits me perfectly. I will make a seperate 'subtropicalis' playlist for this mushroom, to match the duration. But.. that does leave me with the question 'why' this specie lasts just 3h.. I didn't eat in the interim. :confused:


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Hindsight]
    #28155472 - 01/24/23 12:49 PM (1 year, 4 days ago)

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That sounds like a great trip! Thanks for sharing.



It was, thank you Hindsight :heart:


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] * 2
    #28155488 - 01/24/23 12:58 PM (1 year, 4 days ago)

Very nice trip report! You managed to write down everything, even if you said you didn't remember much - you remembered the core. Thanks for sharing!

+1 for the trip being 3 hours long. But pretty much all my trip run around 3 hours (of visuals) anyway.
And then the same amount of time being in the "space" after that. No more CEV, but still a sharp vision and a feeling of being extremely present in the moment.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] * 1
    #28155489 - 01/24/23 12:59 PM (1 year, 4 days ago)

I think the better question would be why other mushrooms last longer. 2g of Tamps can last for 8 hours. Not tripping for 8 hours, of course, but still hyped AF. There's no way I'm still gonna be high after 8hr with other species.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Adas] * 2
    #28155523 - 01/24/23 01:12 PM (1 year, 4 days ago)

I have yet to take these, but I am guessing there must be substantial variability between varieties of Semps, because I have seen folks say they don't hit that hard, and I have heard other folks (both here and directly from my friends who I give them to) say that they hit harder than anything else they have taken - including many types of cubes and pans, and my friend who takes the majority of what I grow tells me his semp trips using lemon tek last 6 hours, at which point it's usually early in the morning and he falls asleep still tripping and seeing visuals.

I have done a shit job of labeling my dried fruits that I give away - I have three different semp lines (each of which were sent to me from different people - actually two org members + 1 vendor). They all grow a little bit differently but are definitely all semps. But I haven't labeled the dried fruits in a way that links them back to the clone culture they came from. I need to start doing that in order to see if that may explain why different people are having such different experiences.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Adas]
    #28155603 - 01/24/23 02:01 PM (1 year, 4 days ago)

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Adas said:
I think the better question would be why other mushrooms last longer. 2g of Tamps can last for 8 hours. Not tripping for 8 hours, of course, but still hyped AF. There's no way I'm still gonna be high after 8hr with other species.




Oh really? Sounds like a good candidate for microdosing.. I need to look into that mushroom :takingnotes:


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] * 5
    #28155637 - 01/24/23 02:18 PM (1 year, 4 days ago)

Been hoarding my last subtrop stash forever now saying I'd get some gill tissue on agar and make sure I don't shoot myself in the foot but every time I read a good report I remember my last large dose of them and how AMAZING I felt.  Think I'm going to knock that task out today so I can journey tonight or tomorrow night.  Last trip was unbelievable.  I always meditate in darkness during my experiences for the duration, and had incredible CEV elements last time.  One vision was of an oriental gentleman writing in a large book with a string wound around his finger that was tied to a table on the other end.  He would unwind the string once after completing every line.  His garb and the cave-like environs were just fascinating,  and there was just zero body load.  Almost never is with these.  On the contrary,  I feel like I've taken some molly when I am coming back down post-peak. :shaqwiggle:


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] * 1
    #28155673 - 01/24/23 02:33 PM (1 year, 4 days ago)

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Adas said:
I think the better question would be why other mushrooms last longer. 2g of Tamps can last for 8 hours. Not tripping for 8 hours, of course, but still hyped AF. There's no way I'm still gonna be high after 8hr with other species.




Oh really? Sounds like a good candidate for microdosing.. I need to look into that mushroom :takingnotes:




It won't last that long with microdosing. MAO inhibition is very dose-dependent. Tamps are still great for microdosing tho.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: alaskappalachian] * 5
    #28156374 - 01/24/23 11:16 PM (1 year, 3 days ago)

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Been hoarding my last subtrop stash forever now saying I'd get some gill tissue on agar and make sure I don't shoot myself in the foot but every time I read a good report I remember my last large dose of them and how AMAZING I felt.  Think I'm going to knock that task out today so I can journey tonight or tomorrow night.  Last trip was unbelievable.  I always meditate in darkness during my experiences for the duration, and had incredible CEV elements last time.  One vision was of an oriental gentleman writing in a large book with a string wound around his finger that was tied to a table on the other end.  He would unwind the string once after completing every line.  His garb and the cave-like environs were just fascinating,  and there was just zero body load.  Almost never is with these.  On the contrary,  I feel like I've taken some molly when I am coming back down post-peak. :shaqwiggle:




Holy Fuck alaskappalachian you're back!!!

I'll say it again: Thank You so much for sending me a Semp swab in 2021. I've managed to grow it (it was a year long adventure) and sent about 25 spores prints around the world (literally).

Ladies & Gentleman who received a print from me: alaskappalachian is The Source we can be thankful to :bow2:

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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Melgo] * 2
    #28156382 - 01/24/23 11:23 PM (1 year, 3 days ago)

Semps still left me unable to sleep for the normal amount of time.
I'm very sensitive with sleep though.

Curious to try healthier looking fruits

Edit: I'll show my awful pinset.



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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Melgo] * 1
    #28156393 - 01/24/23 11:31 PM (1 year, 3 days ago)

Thanks for the kind words bro.  So glad to see you on here killing it!  :yess:  Ready to get back on the subtrop wagon.  You guys are making me terribly jealous with these canopies.  I mean... damn.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: rockyfungus]
    #28156419 - 01/25/23 12:16 AM (1 year, 3 days ago)

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Damn I might try some mini containers too... I like that idea for subtrops...  Nice. :strokebeard:


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance]
    #28156464 - 01/25/23 03:05 AM (1 year, 3 days ago)

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0t0lerance said:
.. to be honest I can't remember much. Launch was from 0 to 100 in a few song.. after that it all went intense had no recollection of that, just that I merged.. or departed.. I don't know but it felt like I was in touch with that which is eternal. with the message that loving everyone and everything is what live is all about. I was shown the dimension where death and new live originates.. It was very emotional and I cried and moaned a number of times as it was beautiful and hard at the same time so feel this truth/revelation penetrating your system.. it's a feeling that went through every viber of my being.. as if something very precious was given to me. That it is was all going to be ok when I die.. , the message was to go back and live and love. The comedown was very rapid, felt like a baby being born.. for the first 30min I couldn't really do much.. after 2 hours I decided to walk.. looking back I was still in the 'launch' phase of my playlist.. by the time I was coming down I had some beautifull choir and song I was planning for the peak.. but for some reason it was done in 3 hours. But yeah, this was my first "good" trip on this level.



Thanks for the report! Wow that sounds like a great trip :vibin:
Would you say you have found "your mushroom"?


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Hindsight]
    #28156468 - 01/25/23 03:09 AM (1 year, 3 days ago)

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Hindsight said:
I have yet to take these, but I am guessing there must be substantial variability between varieties of Semps, because I have seen folks say they don't hit that hard, and I have heard other folks (both here and directly from my friends who I give them to) say that they hit harder than anything else they have taken - including many types of cubes and pans, and my friend who takes the majority of what I grow tells me his semp trips using lemon tek last 6 hours, at which point it's usually early in the morning and he falls asleep still tripping and seeing visuals.

I have done a shit job of labeling my dried fruits that I give away - I have three different semp lines (each of which were sent to me from different people - actually two org members + 1 vendor). They all grow a little bit differently but are definitely all semps. But I haven't labeled the dried fruits in a way that links them back to the clone culture they came from. I need to start doing that in order to see if that may explain why different people are having such different experiences.



My semperviva trips lasted longer than cubes usually do and also took longer to hit. They also had a LOT more time dilation than other species. So indeed there may be a wide variation.

I guess at some point people will invest time in creating varieties/isos from these. I surely hope so as nothing else I have taken compares trip wise.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: odissey]
    #28156480 - 01/25/23 03:41 AM (1 year, 3 days ago)

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Thanks for the report! Wow that sounds like a great trip :vibin:
Would you say you have found "your mushroom"?




To honest answer is 'I don't know'. I haven't tried zapotecorum yet.. apart from that.. P. hoogshagenii has not been grown by anyone.. but was also one of the most praised mushrooms I recall.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance]
    #28159873 - 01/27/23 01:38 PM (1 year, 1 day ago)

I'm at the point where my Xico grows can be cased. Curious, though, how have you successfully managed surface conditions for this species?

Do you keep a fine mist on the surface, or does it like to pin drier? I've also seen pooling water and pins posted here. I'd love some advice on what to do after casing.

As usual, will add answers to my collected notes thread.


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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Moopers] * 5
    #28159985 - 01/27/23 02:52 PM (1 year, 1 day ago)

Well - its over for me



the last of smalltalks subtropica


nobody PMed me, but i finally got a job offer in the legal mushroom industry in a close country

so i did it! if this consolidates, i did it

and shroomery did it

and we all did it

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gonna print these fallen heroes for that guy i still owe a spore letter

but ive worked my first weeks in the industry

making 900 bags a week

Lobbing 40 kgs of sawdust in bags up into a giant mixer


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