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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance]
#28096913 - 12/14/22 07:12 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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You won't lose much actives by making tea. Eating mushrooms is disgusting and doesn't give a good set for the comeup. I make ascorb-TEK. Put a pinch of vit. C into the glass with the broken up mushroom material and pour boiling water. Simple as that. Drink once it's drinkable (10-15 min).
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Adas]
#28096996 - 12/14/22 08:39 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Adas said: You won't lose much actives by making tea. Eating mushrooms is disgusting and doesn't give a good set for the comeup. I make ascorb-TEK. Put a pinch of vit. C into the glass with the broken up mushroom material and pour boiling water. Simple as that. Drink once it's drinkable (10-15 min).
Never heard of the use of vit C in tea, thx. Dried mushroom material I assume? I was planning on going to avatar while tripping. Was thinking about a 0.5gr subtropicalis dose.. but tea would be convenient, kicks in faster. takes around 15min to take effect like lemontek right? Last time I went to the cinema on the come-down.. which I didn't like at all... so hope to time it better this time.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance]
#28097005 - 12/14/22 08:55 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Depends on the potency. Can kick in within 10 minutes or 45.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Adas]
#28097315 - 12/14/22 02:30 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Adas said: You won't lose much actives by making tea. Eating mushrooms is disgusting and doesn't give a good set for the comeup. I make ascorb-TEK. Put a pinch of vit. C into the glass with the broken up mushroom material and pour boiling water. Simple as that. Drink once it's drinkable (10-15 min).
So you only get 1 comeup? And have you compared this with tea where you keep the mushrooms? I usually do pulverized mushrooms + ginger -> boil for 3-4 minutes -> let it cool down a bit -> drink the whole thing. I suspect the second wave, which is the actual trip (the first part is a bit weird like I am in between worlds, not pleasurable or interesting at all) comes from the fruit bodies. Would hate to miss the actual trip
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: odissey]
#28097325 - 12/14/22 02:41 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Did you wait a LONG time? Need to wait until the caps turn really dark. That can take 4, even 5 or 6 weeks from the time you see the first fruit.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Hindsight] 4
#28097335 - 12/14/22 02:50 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: odissey]
#28097355 - 12/14/22 03:14 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Adas said: You won't lose much actives by making tea. Eating mushrooms is disgusting and doesn't give a good set for the comeup. I make ascorb-TEK. Put a pinch of vit. C into the glass with the broken up mushroom material and pour boiling water. Simple as that. Drink once it's drinkable (10-15 min).
So you only get 1 comeup? And have you compared this with tea where you keep the mushrooms? I usually do pulverized mushrooms + ginger -> boil for 3-4 minutes -> let it cool down a bit -> drink the whole thing. I suspect the second wave, which is the actual trip (the first part is a bit weird like I am in between worlds, not pleasurable or interesting at all) comes from the fruit bodies. Would hate to miss the actual trip
I've never eaten the mushrooms after making tea. My trips are good, no "missing the actual trip".
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Adas]
#28097521 - 12/14/22 05:03 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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IME tea kicks in faster, but doesn't last quite as long. I've had some really strong tea experiences though, it definitely works. Most of the time I just dip dried fruits in honey and eat them that way these days.
I've also found that cannabis can alter trips quite a bit, even with a decent tolerance to it. Not saying in a positive or negative way necessarily...but noticeable...to me anyways.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Hindsight] 1
#28097551 - 12/14/22 05:28 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Hindsight said: Did you wait a LONG time? Need to wait until the caps turn really dark. That can take 4, even 5 or 6 weeks from the time you see the first fruit.
I looked for the darker brown, but i overshoot
glad to just have these going again randomly next to the cubes
letting them dry out more seems to be a good way to get pinning with these, im now more sure than i was before
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Iβve never noticed multiple come ups or peaks, but you guys might be feeling the psilocin/cybin Any Psilocin in the dose would start working right away, while the psilocybin needs to be metabolized first and so it takes 40 mins or whatever to kick in.
Ime weed makes it a whole different thing. Even though a weed high might not last very long it seems to alter the entire trip for me if I smoke early on. Then towards the end I can somehow smoke a stupid amount of weed with no problem. Like 20x what I normally would be able to handle.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: A.k.a]
#28098238 - 12/15/22 04:19 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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A.k.a said: Iβve never noticed multiple come ups or peaks, but you guys might be feeling the psilocin/cybin Any Psilocin in the dose would start working right away, while the psilocybin needs to be metabolized first and so it takes 40 mins or whatever to kick in.
Ime weed makes it a whole different thing. Even though a weed high might not last very long it seems to alter the entire trip for me if I smoke early on. Then towards the end I can somehow smoke a stupid amount of weed with no problem. Like 20x what I normally would be able to handle.
Well.. I thought that lemon tek converted the Psilocybin into Psilocin (soaked 25min).. as I do feel it in 5-15 min... but, I also had 3 waves, I did consume the (powdered) fruit bodies as a shot. So, could it be that some of psilocybin was still in the powder and it did not convert.. hence the waves? If so, I will do all future trips with tea & toss the fruit bodies after steeping.. as I really dislike the waves.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu]
#28098327 - 12/15/22 06:56 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Here's the theory I'm aware of about lemon tek : the lemon being similarly acidic to your stomach, it starts breaking up chitin walls for you so you don't have to, thus the trip hitting faster and being shorter.
But tea will do the same thing by extracting (soluble compounds) the actives from the mushrooms and those same chitin cells.
That's all it does, AFAIK.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Rusty2096] 2
#28098331 - 12/15/22 07:02 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Except our stomach acid doesn't break down chitin. An enzyme called chitinase does.
Plus the pH might be the same but hydrochloric acid is a strong acid while ascorbic and citric acids are both weak acids.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu]
#28098376 - 12/15/22 08:03 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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(I'm always happy to learn something new. I somehow knew about chitinase because I know a small percentage of humans don't produce it thus can't break down chitin - but my brain didn't make the connection )
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#28098522 - 12/15/22 10:09 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Top fruited this bacterial jar on 26 Oct. I know how you guys like to hurt me, but I think I finally have some semps.

The two clean jars inoculated the same day and spawned 4 Oct are working their way through their casing now.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: A.k.a]
#28098576 - 12/15/22 10:57 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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hummingbird said: IME tea kicks in faster, but doesn't last quite as long. I've had some really strong tea experiences though, it definitely works. Most of the time I just dip dried fruits in honey and eat them that way these days.
I've also found that cannabis can alter trips quite a bit, even with a decent tolerance to it. Not saying in a positive or negative way necessarily...but noticeable...to me anyways.
Even tea experiences can be long if you ingest a species with high beta-carbolines. In my 2g Tamp trip I was going strong until like 4am, which was like 8-9 hours after dosing. High dose Tamps are ridiculous like that. No other mushroom lasts that long.
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A.k.a said: Iβve never noticed multiple come ups or peaks, but you guys might be feeling the psilocin/cybin Any Psilocin in the dose would start working right away, while the psilocybin needs to be metabolized first and so it takes 40 mins or whatever to kick in.
Reality is, the enzymes break it down extremely fast. Too fast to make a difference in comeup.
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SirPsycho said: Except our stomach acid doesn't break down chitin. An enzyme called chitinase does.
Plus the pH might be the same but hydrochloric acid is a strong acid while ascorbic and citric acids are both weak acids.
This, totally.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Adas]
#28098593 - 12/15/22 11:15 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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So would adding an enzyme pill that contained chitinase enzyme help break it down while making tea? I found this this pill?
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Bigworm]
#28098608 - 12/15/22 11:30 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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By the time significant amounts of Chitin broke down, a ton of your actives would go bad Why not just grind the shrooms a bit?
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Bigworm] 1
#28098664 - 12/15/22 12:14 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Bigworm said: So would adding an enzyme pill that contained chitinase enzyme help break it down while making tea? I found this this pill?
No, because we don't need to break it down. The actives disolve into water very well as is.
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