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Melgo
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The Fresh Prints said:

Here's the dry/wet side-by-side. Same culture, same ratio, same spawn date. The one on the right is the coir recipe I use for cubes. Fat gnarly fruits, but definitely kinda trash in comparison. Time from spawn to pin was the same, so that theory is out the window. I guess some cultures are just quick to fruit.
Super interesting! Thanks for running the side-by-side
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I'm so glad I decided to try the dryer bulk. It's my first attempt at them so I was taking notes on what worked best most recently. I spawned mine 3 days ago, so I guess I'm looking at quite a while before I know if I did the right thing. 2 months is average from spawn?
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The Fresh Prints said: For cubes I still use ~3.75 quarts water to a 650g "brick" of coir as a general reference for scale. The equivalent semp recipe would be 3-3.25 quarts for the same amount of coir. Not a huge difference now that I think about it. Everyone's coir brand is different as well, so that's something to keep in mind.
Heard, yeah coir brand makes a difference, dry for mine is ~3.5qt, thanks for the info.
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Quote:
The Fresh Prints said:

Here's the dry/wet side-by-side. Same culture, same ratio, same spawn date. The one on the right is the coir recipe I use for cubes. Fat gnarly fruits, but definitely kinda trash in comparison. Time from spawn to pin was the same, so that theory is out the window. I guess some cultures are just quick to fruit.
Excellent info! Added this and the info on how much water to coir to the "Collected notes" thread.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Bigworm]
#28076270 - 11/30/22 02:42 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Bigworm said: I'm so glad I decided to try the dryer bulk. It's my first attempt at them so I was taking notes on what worked best most recently. I spawned mine 3 days ago, so I guess I'm looking at quite a while before I know if I did the right thing. 2 months is average from spawn?
The timelines are all over the place, it’s super culture dependent.
I only ran them once but they had primordia faster than most of my cube grows.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: A.k.a]
#28076328 - 11/30/22 03:08 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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I just spawned to bulk 3 quarts in a mini mono. I had some 50/50 casing sitting around that I needed to get rid of so I went ahead and cased. Has anyone tried to case these before colonizing?
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Bigworm



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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: A.k.a]
#28076394 - 11/30/22 03:38 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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A.k.a said:
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Bigworm said: I'm so glad I decided to try the dryer bulk. It's my first attempt at them so I was taking notes on what worked best most recently. I spawned mine 3 days ago, so I guess I'm looking at quite a while before I know if I did the right thing. 2 months is average from spawn?
The timelines are all over the place, it’s super culture dependent.
I only ran them once but they had primordia faster than most of my cube grows.
Yeah that's what I was seeing, but most were saying it takes forever so I was setting my hopes for quickness pretty low. My qt of grain colonized in about 1.5 weeks, which is faster than cubes in my experience, and that got me hopeful. I guess I won't know till they pin. By the way does the grain spawn smell different than cube grain spawn? I can't say mine smelled bad just different than I'm used to. Could be that I am trying wbs for the first time too.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Bigworm] 7
#28077565 - 12/01/22 07:52 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Let's grow subtropicalis 
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance]
#28079171 - 12/02/22 07:15 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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So I harvested the fruits yesterday, but pulled away a part of the casing in the process with the slenders fruits, thick fruits I've cut with scissors else the cake would be heavily damaged. But what is the best approach here after ripping away the casing, patch the bare spots? Currently I haven't done that.. just soaked for some hours and called it a day.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] 1
#28079188 - 12/02/22 07:30 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Patch casing. I don't even soak but that's just me.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Hindsight]
#28079215 - 12/02/22 08:07 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Hindsight said: Patch casing. I don't even soak but that's just me.
Alright will do, thanks for chiming in
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance]
#28079580 - 12/02/22 01:05 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Here is my tub of semps, 2:1 ratio bulk:spawn with the dryer, no drips field capacity, of 50/50 C/V(I only had large Vermiculite available) pseudocased with .5-.75 inch top layer. This thread is so confusing to read and try to figure out what to do and what to stay away from doing. Everyone gets different results with everything, and reading this over and over again is making my head hurt. Even the compiled info page is back and forth on what to do. What's the consensus on misting and casing moisture level using the dryer sub? Do I wait until 100% colonization to mist and let the surface dry out a bit? Do I start misting from now on?
Edited by Bigworm (12/02/22 01:06 PM)
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Bigworm] 1
#28079607 - 12/02/22 01:24 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Had a lot of luck with the current MS run with low spawn ratio, by letting dry out. Almost all formed primordia, and produced at least sparse fruits so far.
even while being in the middle of a fungus gnat invasion where the dead already are in the 1000+ on the yellow fly papers
keeping up conditions cube-like every day may not be the way to go, letting them dry some on their way from field capacity to pinning, worked.
i would not advice letting the sub dry out too much, one which left completely alone, dried out 100% and molded.
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smalltalk_canceled said: even while being in the middle of a fungus gnat invasion where the dead already are in the 1000+ on the yellow fly papers
Ugh, the struggle is real:

I'm adding nematodes to my tubs now.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Hindsight] 1
#28079657 - 12/02/22 01:58 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Hindsight said: I'm adding nematodes to my tubs now.
Are we circling back to that thread where people inquire as to whether mushrooms gave them parasites? Get your hand mirrors everyone!
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rockyfungus
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: cooleko] 3
#28079671 - 12/02/22 02:06 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Once again really long colonization time and sparse fruits.
Looks great on grain and agar this is a clone this run. Probably heading back to prints.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Hindsight] 2
#28079676 - 12/02/22 02:08 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Hindsight said:
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smalltalk_canceled said: even while being in the middle of a fungus gnat invasion where the dead already are in the 1000+ on the yellow fly papers
Ugh, the struggle is real:

I'm adding nematodes to my tubs now.
you can still see the paper, newb
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: rockyfungus]
#28079678 - 12/02/22 02:08 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Hey Rocky,
I also have sparse fruits from your culture, however I think it's my lack of skill. And maybe the charcoal casing also didn't help. At first only 1 fruit showed up, now I see 3 more pins or so. But nothing much. However, your culture also gave me a plate pin which I've cloned so there's hope.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Adas] 1
#28079683 - 12/02/22 02:09 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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what if any yellow glue paper works and you dont need the specific product design thing
Ima report back
also spiders guy, they are coming in from the cold now, put em in your grow room
bring luck + kill flies
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Melgo
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- Harvested the mighty spaghetti shoebox yesterday (because I'm going away for a few days), fruits have been in the dryer for 24 hours.
- They were 24 days old, started dropping spores at the 21 days mark.
- I've put some caps to print, but was in a rush so I only sprayed them caps before cutting them and putting them on aluminium foil (I usually put a drop of water on them too).
- Wet weight was 434 grams, dry weight 45 grams.
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