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OfflineDr. Delban
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Everything is within this, and this is within everything
    #27066047 - 12/01/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I am hoping that somebody in this sub forum can help me.

I have been trying to find the source of the following phrase:

Everything is within this, and this is within everything

I suspect this is a philosophical idea originating from ancient Hinduism.

However, having searched the web both using google and DuckDuckGo I am not getting any results.

This phrase appears as a voice sample at beginning of a Goa trance track Shakta - The Enlightened Ape

However, this is not the main reason why I am looking for the source of this phrase.

I have searched some psy-trance and music sample forums but could not find the source of that voice sample either.

This website doesn't specify where it was taken from:
https://www.psydb.net/samples/R-S

If you have any information as of where does this phrase and philosophical idea originate from, please let me know. It is very important to me. It is not just about finding the source of the sample in a trance track, this is connected to something else much more important than that.

Otherwise, does anyone have any alternative techniques for finding information online? I feel maybe I'm just terrible at searching the web.


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Re: Everything is within this, and this is within everything [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #27066127 - 12/01/20 11:17 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Shakta - The Enlightened Ape - lyrics:

'Everything is within this, and this is within everything.'

'Anyone can be enlightened. You can - so you should!'

'To the end of the universe. Hahahahah!'

'I flew millions of lightyears. I might have gone anywhere but I went that way.'

'Some things even Buddhas don't know.'

'The end of the universe? That can't have been easy.' 'Of course it wasn't easy, but I got there!'

Very interesting post OP, and good tune :thumbup:

I'm honestly not sure myself and am curious to know too.

Perhaps it's just the creative words of an individual that is of indian ethnicity idk.


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Re: Everything is within this, and this is within everything [Re: ch0ppie] * 1
    #27066170 - 12/01/20 11:42 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

It's a good phrase to stimulate acceptance of totality and oneness.


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Re: Everything is within this, and this is within everything [Re: redgreenvines] * 2
    #27066201 - 12/01/20 12:03 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds sorta like William Blake, which takes one back to the 1700s

“To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And a Heaven in a Wild Flower,
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour.”

― William Blake, Auguries of Innocence


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Re: Everything is within this, and this is within everything [Re: laughingdog] * 1
    #27066205 - 12/01/20 12:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Also look up "  Indra's Net  "

as you say, not a new idea for mystics


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Re: Everything is within this, and this is within everything [Re: Dr. Delban] * 1
    #27069154 - 12/02/20 11:49 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

The phrase begins and ends in your consciousness, because all truth as you know and understand it to be relevant, and useful to you, actually anything and everything you perceive to exist, is a function of your consciousness.

You are absolute and eternal.

You are existentially anchored.

You ARE, because you're ABLE to be!

:sunny:


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Re: Everything is within this, and this is within everything [Re: Loaded Shaman] * 1
    #27069308 - 12/03/20 05:15 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

also it's impossible for you not to be you.


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Re: Everything is within this, and this is within everything [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27069715 - 12/03/20 10:17 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

It does appear to be the case.


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Re: Everything is within this, and this is within everything [Re: Yellow Pants]
    #27070392 - 12/03/20 05:12 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

My interpretation of this phrase so far prior to posting this thread was that it suggests a cosmological concept. I imagined that the material universe or universes exist within another plane or dimension and vice versa.

The few responses I received so far have allowed me to look at this from a different perspective.


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Re: Everything is within this, and this is within everything [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #27070474 - 12/03/20 06:08 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I am going to attempt an elaboration that I’m confident is over my head.  Okay.  You have the 3 dimensional ordinary universe we reside in where in getting from the 2nd dimension to the the 3rd requires squaring off all angles in 2 dimensions by way of a right angle and hence you have the 3rd liberty.  If you then take the 3 dimensional freedoms and add an additional right angle for all present angles you get the 4th dimension.  Effectively this looks like, to us, a cube within a cube.

My interpretation of this thought which can be found in many places is that concealed in the perceived 3 dimensions we live in is a rabid multi stream of alternative reality that is the seed of the multi verse parallel worlds etc. etc


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Re: Everything is within this, and this is within everything [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27070934 - 12/03/20 11:11 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

redgreenvines said:
also it's impossible for you not to be you.




I believe I am not me, therefore I am not?


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Re: Everything is within this, and this is within everything [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #27071016 - 12/04/20 12:39 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

redgreenvines said:
also it's impossible for you not to be you.




Precisely! :sunny:

Quote:

Grapefruit said:
I believe I am not me, therefore I am not?




Check the first word/letter you're required to use to make said statement; it's inescapable! :sunny:


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Re: Everything is within this, and this is within everything [Re: Dr. Delban] * 1
    #27071026 - 12/04/20 12:45 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Everything is within this, and this is within everything




You are autonomous.

I mean, that's my interpretation :shrug:

But philosophically I would add that there are dynamic effects pushing our freedom of choice.

I believe we have free will to do as we please.

However our decisions are refined by our network of societal norms. We may want to do certain things, but we dictate our decisions collectively and this complicates our free will.

It does not however, in my opinion, mean there is no free will, simply because we make decisions based upon our situations.


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Re: Everything is within this, and this is within everything [Re: sudly] * 2
    #27071348 - 12/04/20 07:45 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

The source is within yourself...


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Re: Everything is within this, and this is within everything [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27071588 - 12/04/20 10:48 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

In my experience we find many ways to, day after rainy day. It's rare for a true flower to bloom in a man.


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Re: Everything is within this, and this is within everything [Re: sudly]
    #27072809 - 12/05/20 12:38 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

sudly said:
Quote:

Everything is within this, and this is within everything




You are autonomous.

I mean, that's my interpretation :shrug:

But philosophically I would add that there are dynamic effects pushing our freedom of choice.

I believe we have free will to do as we please.

However our decisions are refined by our network of societal norms. We may want to do certain things, but we dictate our decisions collectively and this complicates our free will.

It does not however, in my opinion, mean there is no free will, simply because we make decisions based upon our situations.




Very well said and it's nice to see some nuance from someone regarding the topic of Free Will!


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Re: Everything is within this, and this is within everything [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27112534 - 12/28/20 03:06 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)



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