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1st Monotub Albino A+
    #27062961 - 11/29/20 12:33 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

This is my first monotub from multispore LC Albino A+.

Fruiting seems to have started but rather slow with some darker stripes on some stems as well as some darker spots on some caps. Overall growth seems rather small/slow. Got about a cm of condensation water in the bottom outside my liner.

Was wondering if my humidity is too high and maybe FAE too low?











Any input would be very appreciated!


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Re: 1st Monotub Albino A+ possible high humidity problem/contamination [Re: MycoJones]
    #27062966 - 11/29/20 12:39 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Remove your lid, take pics.
I can't see properly into that tub to diagnose anything...
It looks like it has a mold/bacteria problem, but uncertain because of the pics.


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Re: 1st Monotub Albino A+ possible high humidity problem/contamination [Re: mushhead]
    #27064074 - 11/30/20 07:23 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Was worried to open the tub but have some much better pics now.





Tub 2 is same age and looks like it is building a heavy pinset :



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Re: 1st Monotub Albino A+ possible high humidity problem/contamination [Re: MycoJones]
    #27064678 - 11/30/20 01:37 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

You need better FAE.
It's obvious now that I can see within the tub. Your fruits are reaching for air.
You can see the myc beginning to become more tomentose along the bottoms of the fruits as well leading me to believe there is moisture in excess.
switch out whatever tape you're using on that tub for polyfil and allow a few days for it to reacclimate to the changes.


Edited by mushhead (11/30/20 01:44 PM)


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Re: 1st Monotub Albino A+ possible high humidity problem/contamination [Re: mushhead]
    #27064696 - 11/30/20 01:48 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for confirming mushhead.

Currently using single layer micropore tape "Pastywhyte's Easy Micropore" tek style and was worried about increased risk of contamination, when removing the tape completely in order to increase FAE.

Would placing a small fan outside, in front of the tubs, blowing at the microtape help?


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Re: 1st Monotub Albino A+ possible high humidity problem/contamination [Re: MycoJones]
    #27064703 - 11/30/20 01:50 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

at this point in the growing cycle the only real worry is slime mold.
Otherwise you don't really have to worry that much about contamination.
The myc on your tub looks really great, if you get it some good lighting, keep it within the proper temperature(20c-23c), and provide better FAE you'll come out pretty giggly on the other side.


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Re: 1st Monotub Albino A+ possible high humidity problem/contamination [Re: mushhead]
    #27064709 - 11/30/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

yeah those guys need to breathe (see how long and skiiny they are?). take off the lids


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Re: 1st Monotub Albino A+ possible high humidity problem/contamination [Re: MycoJones]
    #27064712 - 11/30/20 01:59 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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Thanks for confirming mushhead.

Currently using single layer micropore tape "Pastywhyte's Easy Micropore" tek style and was worried about increased risk of contamination, when removing the tape completely in order to increase FAE.

Would placing a small fan outside, in front of the tubs, blowing at the microtape help?



Just replace the tape with polyfil and that should fix the issues you're having.
Removing the tape completely may dry out your sub faster than you need.
We want a gradual evaporation, not an immediate evaporation.


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Re: 1st Monotub Albino A+ possible high humidity problem/contamination [Re: mushhead]
    #27064718 - 11/30/20 02:01 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

My temp is slightly higher around 25-26C. Should I try to lower it to 20-23C?

Tubs are getting only indirect light for now, room is pretty well lit with a couple of fluros, 24/0 though. Would you recommend a fluro/LED on a timer directly above the tubs?


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Re: 1st Monotub Albino A+ possible high humidity problem/contamination [Re: MycoJones]
    #27064726 - 11/30/20 02:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

you can add a light on a timer if youd like, but its not necessary. i grow mine in a room near a window and they get great light!!
for me, if i am comfortable, then my mushies are comfortable


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Re: 1st Monotub Albino A+ possible high humidity problem/contamination [Re: Big_Dub]
    #27064730 - 11/30/20 02:08 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Big_Dub said:

for me, if i am comfortable, then my mushies are comfortable




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Re: 1st Monotub Albino A+ possible high humidity problem/contamination [Re: MycoJones]
    #27064784 - 11/30/20 02:38 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I find at the higher temps your fruits get really stressed because the high heat leads to extreme humidity.
This combined with improper FAE is your culprit.
You'd think this is okay, but in fact is really detrimental, and causes the long spear like growth.
69f-73f (20c-23c) is your best bet for both jars and fruiting tubs.


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Re: 1st Monotub Albino A+ possible high humidity problem/contamination [Re: mushhead]
    #27065783 - 12/01/20 05:19 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Reduced room temp to 21C, drained the condensation water to lower humidity, setup a fan circulating the air inside room and made sure the micropore tape is not overlapping at all on all holes, in order to increase FAE.

Should I already harvest the dark fruits and ones which already opened?



MonoTub 2 looking better:



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Re: 1st Monotub Albino A+ possible high humidity problem/contamination [Re: MycoJones]
    #27066075 - 12/01/20 10:52 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

harvest what you think is ready to harvest.
I'd grab the ones that have broken their veil to start.


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Re: 1st Monotub Albino A+ possible high humidity problem/contamination [Re: mushhead]
    #27068649 - 12/02/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Got it mushhead, thanks. First fruits have been harvested today.





Second tub is coming along nice.



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Re: 1st Monotub Albino A+ possible high humidity problem/contamination [Re: MycoJones]
    #27068652 - 12/02/20 05:03 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

awesome, it looks like the increased FAE is actually doing some real good here.


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Re: 1st Monotub Albino A+ possible high humidity problem/contamination [Re: mushhead]
    #27068710 - 12/02/20 05:33 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

That last picture looks better but beyond FAE those definitely look light deprived to me.


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Re: 1st Monotub Albino A+ possible high humidity problem/contamination [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #27068813 - 12/02/20 06:56 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Nice shit. Aa+ is always my go to cube for weight.


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Re: 1st Monotub Albino A+ possible high humidity problem/contamination [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #27069221 - 12/03/20 01:26 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

What would be signs of light deprivation? Only using passive lighting of the actual room the tubs are in for now. The pics are taken under these passive light conditions. Better add a LED above the tubs?


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Re: 1st Monotub Albino A+ possible high humidity problem/contamination [Re: MycoJones]
    #27069233 - 12/03/20 02:20 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I believe you need a specific spectrum of light.

Found this thread that might be helpful

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25371370#25371370


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