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OfflineLiberto
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    #27067507 - 12/02/20 02:54 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Hey guys and girls.

I would want to make mushroom tea on next trip. I have read that heating mushrooms destroys the psilocybin in mushrooms. My fav way to take shrooms is lemon tek. How do I make the tea, to not destroy active compounds in mushrooms? Also is it possible for first making lemon tek brew and then making it in to tea ?


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Re: Taking libs [Re: Liberto] * 2
    #27067529 - 12/02/20 04:00 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

It is a myth that heat (at least at reasonable temperatures) degrades psilocybin. It has been proven that you can even deep fry them without loss of potency. You can boil your mushrooms without worrying.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25176006 this is how you make tea. You can even boil whatever volume of tea water you have down to a shot to take it if you want.


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Re: Taking libs [Re: Liberto]
    #27068088 - 12/02/20 12:11 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Heating them with boiling water is fine, especially with psilocybin. When you add lemon it changes it to psilocin which can be damaged by heat easier. If I lemon tek tea I boil the tea then add some lemon and let it cool off for 20 minutes. It hits hard.


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Re: Taking libs [Re: Liberto]
    #27068436 - 12/02/20 03:08 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

The melting point of Psilocybin is 220C or 428F: https://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_chemistry.shtml

Water boils at 100C or 212F.


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Re: Taking libs [Re: Liberto]
    #27068474 - 12/02/20 03:30 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

You will not degrade the potency at all with boiling in water, just don’t let it boil dry. If you want the faster come up, break the mushrooms in the pan and pour over your lemon juice. Then Add the boiling water and boil for a good ten minutes. Then cool and strain.

It’s a myth the l3mon turns the psilocybin into psilocin. It does some kind of process in lieu of the body doing it that speeds up absorption, but I’m not 100% sure of the name.

By the way, I’ve been doing the above for almost 35 years. It’s always worked for me.

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Re: Taking libs [Re: DJ Ed]
    #27069347 - 12/03/20 06:13 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for all the answers.


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Re: Taking libs [Re: DJ Ed]
    #27069949 - 12/03/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I thought the lemon Tek was used to removed psilocybin from the mushroom material allowing it to be absorbed without the need to physically process the mushrooms. Hence the quick come up.

Basic acid extraction.


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Re: Taking libs [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #27070862 - 12/03/20 10:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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I thought the lemon Tek was used to removed psilocybin from the mushroom material allowing it to be absorbed without the need to physically process the mushrooms. Hence the quick come up.

Basic acid extraction.




No the acidic environment breaks down the psilocybin into psilocin.  The water extracts the psilocybin/psilocin.  It's the pre-conversion to psilocin in the cup rather then your tummy that causes the faster come up.


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Re: Taking libs [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #27071252 - 12/04/20 06:03 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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No the acidic environment breaks down the psilocybin into psilocin.  The water extracts the psilocybin/psilocin.  It's the pre-conversion to psilocin in the cup rather then your tummy that causes the faster come up.



Even if the conversion of psilocin does happen due to the citric acid, the primary factor that speeds up the come up is the extraction of the magic into the liquid. Anyone who has made mushroom tea can attest to the same thing occurring without any added acids. J just use water for mine and don't add anything


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Re: Taking libs [Re: Corundum]
    #27071713 - 12/04/20 12:00 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Nobody that I know of has definitively proven that lemon tek dephosphorylates psilocybin to psilocin, but it seems it does from personal experience and many other reports. Compared to a normal mushroom tea sans lemon it hits much faster, much harder and the trip ends sooner.

I once lemon tea tekked 3g of libs and it was one of the most intense trips of my life, such a harsh come up where you just have to trust it then the peak was so clean, clear and pure, then by 4 hours sober and walking on air. I rarely do lemon tek as even half a lemon juiced gives me acid in my digestive system and prefer a 6-9 hours experience over 4hr.


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