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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: feevers]
    #27067009 - 12/01/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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The schizophrenic woman “releasing the kraken” can barely write full sentences...



Perfect example of what I'm talking about.  Instead of arguing about the points, you repeat establishment media talking points.  Do you have evidence she's schizophrenic?  Or that she can barely write full sentences?  Yes, I realize her team submitted a complaint that was full of typos, but that appears to have created by Juli Haller.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27067012 - 12/01/20 07:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

She signed it. By doing so, she certified the contents.

Still, you reposted a link... Where's the evidence of fraud in that link? I would love to discuss said evidence.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27067013 - 12/01/20 07:18 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

It hastily being put together is actually evidence that it's a bunch of shit. More evidence than was brought forward in that lawsuit in fact.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
    #27067014 - 12/01/20 07:18 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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She signed it. By doing so, she certified the contents.

Still, you reposted a link... Where's the evidence of fraud in that link? I would love to discuss said evidence.



He's avoiding my post so you'll be waiting


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 4
    #27067039 - 12/01/20 07:30 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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A homeless man once told me aliens were invading his brain and making him dance the tango, I guess I should have sat with him and got the full story before drawing any conclusions.



That's a good example of evidence that's not very good.




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The schizophrenic woman “releasing the kraken” can barely write full sentences...



Perfect example of what I'm talking about.  Instead of arguing about the points, you repeat establishment media talking points.  Do you have evidence she's schizophrenic?  Or that she can barely write full sentences?  Yes, I realize her team submitted a complaint that was full of typos, but that appears to have created by Juli Haller.




It seems you haven’t noticed that my posts were mockingly attempting to dumb things down to the level you’d apparently like to debate on, where every accusation is valid and none of the onus falls upon the person making the making the accusation/claim, where everything should simply be believed until disproven regardless of lack of evidence.

But yet you spent more time dissecting my post than actually investigating this fraud you seem to be so concerned by, because when accusations go against the trump side your criteria apparently changes.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #27067143 - 12/01/20 08:24 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Here's an example:
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*****



No responses to that one.



You consider this to be compelling evidence of election fraud?



I haven't read it.  My point is that no one has made a compelling argument against it other than arguments like "Sidney's a big fat poo poo head".  I'm just observing that everyone has insults, and no one has arguments.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #27067147 - 12/01/20 08:26 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

You understand the burden of proof isn't on us to disprove anything. Unless evidence is presented, it's just speculation.  No evidence has been presented, and it's becoming increasingly clear that you haven't seen any or you would have given an example.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27067152 - 12/01/20 08:27 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Here's an example:
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So The Identity of The Kraken was "officially" revealed Yesterday by a High Profile Attorney working hand in hand with Trump and Sydney Powell and Now President Trump this Morning Officially Endorsed the Announcement :

https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2020/11/22/sidney-powells-kraken-is-dod-cyber-warfare-program-we-are-at-war/

Liberty and JUSTICE for All is coming to the USA. They thought they could steal the USA.. WRONG !!! After reading that article go read all of https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com ;

Its coming !!!



No responses to that one.



Let's start with the way it's written. If you have something compelling or important to say how would you approach conveying that information? Like a rambling drunk on a soap box or matter of fact and to the point?

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The CIA, FBI and DOJ are full of Treasonous Swamp Rats that are intent on stealing the Presidential seat, and taking over America for the global order. They are wicked globalist puppets who are boldly pushing their coup to destroy America and implement a global reset and usher in United Nations Agenda 2030 which is the revised version of sustainable development Agenda 21.




Sorry falcon no one can take that seriously unless they're a retard.

But fine. Let's try to digest the article and pretend it's worth reading.

There's a lot of accusations in there. They are what you're calling evidence. Accusations have to be backed up be evidence. There is none. You can't call any of Powell's declarations evidence. They're baseless accusations. Snowden for example produced evidence to go along with the accusations. Powell hasn't done any such thing.

So click the links in the article to dig deeper.

The first one is the same article repackaged.

https://breakingdefense.com/2013/04/army-releases-the-kraken-to-protect-foreign-fire-bases-id-lik/

This is confusing now the kraken is a physical device that helps soliders. Not something that examines domion servers or government agencies or the *deep state*

So that's a big red flag.

There's a video I'm not watching.

Am I missing something falcon?
What did you find compelling in those links/articles and why?



FINALLY, an argument against this article.  Now it's up to other side to make a rebuttal.  That's how things used to work here.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 4
    #27067155 - 12/01/20 08:30 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

What are you, the debate moderator?  What a joke.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 8
    #27067156 - 12/01/20 08:30 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

lol shut up dude. Nobody of reasonable mind needed to waste their time with that article. It's a dumb article with zero proof and any honest person knew that within 13 seconds of reading it.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Mycolorado] * 1
    #27067159 - 12/01/20 08:32 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

He didn't even read the link he reposted.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #27067164 - 12/01/20 08:33 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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I didn't ask if you know - I asked what you believe.



You're asking me to make believe? 

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Although, at this point it's pretty obvious from your avoidant answers that you don't believe the election to have been legitimate; but you probably don't want to make that belief explicit because you haven't been able to find any compelling evidence to support the claim of election fraud either, and that whole 'king of make believe' thing is ringing in your ears. .



I'm saying I don't have enough information to know.  I was just following the discussion and it's been a lot like this.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27067167 - 12/01/20 08:36 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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A homeless man once told me aliens were invading his brain and making him dance the tango, I guess I should have sat with him and got the full story before drawing any conclusions.



That's a good example of evidence that's not very good.



:crazy:
Now how come you get it in this case?



I think everyone gets this example.

An example of what people don't seem to get is how I told everyone we haven't seen evidence of Trump collusion with the Russian Government, and everyone basically kept telling me I'm a big fat poo poo head.  Well, look who's laughing now.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 6
    #27067170 - 12/01/20 08:38 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

You're being naive and hypocritical. You didn't read the link. There's no evidence there, and you expect people to respond to something you couldn't be bothered to read. We read it and dismissed it because it's garbage. If you read it and feel it's not, then come talk to us about debate. Until then, you're just being dishonest and contrarian.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
    #27067174 - 12/01/20 08:40 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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You keep crying about make believe but you'll blindly accept that there's evidence without proof.



Not true.  I'm just saying I haven't seen many intelligent rebuttals to what some people here believe to be evidence.  I haven't read nearly as much as others like hamhead and seagu have.  Maybe their evidence isn't good, but hurling insults isn't the best way to respond.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil] * 3
    #27067178 - 12/01/20 08:43 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

The thing is, one side of the Trump/anti Trump argument has consistently, across all platforms, up to the level of the white house itself, shamelessly shared mountains of poorly constructed misinformation and abused the notion of arguing in good faith specifically to sew confusion among the less firm-minded. You can't expect people to hold out for good faith arguments from a group that 1. hardly ever presents any and 2. does not return the favor.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: feevers]
    #27067182 - 12/01/20 08:44 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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It seems you haven’t noticed that my posts were mockingly attempting to dumb things down to the level you’d apparently like to debate on...



Oh look!  More insults!  :flowstone:

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But yet you spent more time dissecting my post than actually investigating this fraud you seem to be so concerned by, because when accusations go against the trump side your criteria apparently changes.



That's probably true, I haven't spend much time investigating this.  I was hoping the people here who had something to say would do a better job.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 3
    #27067183 - 12/01/20 08:45 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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You keep crying about make believe but you'll blindly accept that there's evidence without proof.



Not true.  I'm just saying I haven't seen many intelligent rebuttals to what some people here believe to be evidence.  I haven't read nearly as much as others like hamhead and seagu have.  Maybe their evidence isn't good, but hurling insults isn't the best way to respond.



Just because someone believes something is evidence doesn't make it evidence. Allegations are not evidence.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27067197 - 12/01/20 08:53 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Here's an example:
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So The Identity of The Kraken was "officially" revealed Yesterday by a High Profile Attorney working hand in hand with Trump and Sydney Powell and Now President Trump this Morning Officially Endorsed the Announcement :

https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2020/11/22/sidney-powells-kraken-is-dod-cyber-warfare-program-we-are-at-war/

Liberty and JUSTICE for All is coming to the USA. They thought they could steal the USA.. WRONG !!! After reading that article go read all of https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com ;

Its coming !!!



No responses to that one.



Let's start with the way it's written. If you have something compelling or important to say how would you approach conveying that information? Like a rambling drunk on a soap box or matter of fact and to the point?

Quote:


The CIA, FBI and DOJ are full of Treasonous Swamp Rats that are intent on stealing the Presidential seat, and taking over America for the global order. They are wicked globalist puppets who are boldly pushing their coup to destroy America and implement a global reset and usher in United Nations Agenda 2030 which is the revised version of sustainable development Agenda 21.




Sorry falcon no one can take that seriously unless they're a retard.

But fine. Let's try to digest the article and pretend it's worth reading.

There's a lot of accusations in there. They are what you're calling evidence. Accusations have to be backed up be evidence. There is none. You can't call any of Powell's declarations evidence. They're baseless accusations. Snowden for example produced evidence to go along with the accusations. Powell hasn't done any such thing.

So click the links in the article to dig deeper.

The first one is the same article repackaged.

https://breakingdefense.com/2013/04/army-releases-the-kraken-to-protect-foreign-fire-bases-id-lik/

This is confusing now the kraken is a physical device that helps soliders. Not something that examines domion servers or government agencies or the *deep state*

So that's a big red flag.

There's a video I'm not watching.

Am I missing something falcon?
What did you find compelling in those links/articles and why?



Falcon could you at least answer my last question if not my last two


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27067266 - 12/01/20 09:26 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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The outcomes of the cases are the evidence he's presenting. One very plausible explanation for those outcomes is that the evidence brought forward in those cases sucked. If the evidence did not suck, then the outcomes of the cases must be accounted for in some other way.



I watched the Giuliani video and he said he only has 3 lawsuits.  Not sure who is bringing up the others.



My understanding is that the others were brought by other pro-Trump Republicans though I'm not aware of a comprehensive list. But the evidence or lack thereof brought in any of these cases stands on its own. If good evidence was provided then the lawsuits should have gone somewhere, unless the court system is not functioning as it is supposed to.

Other purported evidence disseminated on the web rather than submitted in court is all well and good, but court is where it needs to be submitted (by the Trump campaign or whoever else) for it to make any difference. And the clock is ticking.


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