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Heroic dose, were any of your experiences like this???
#27066437 - 12/01/20 02:03 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hi guys!
I recently did the infamous 5 dried grams and it was an experience unique to itself to say the least. After coming out of it and reflecting on it, I have so many questions despite having received so many answers.
Let me just say, the trip was overall a success. I feel like I will be even more prepared the next time I do it, but you never can truly prepare for what a heroic dose can do (and I spent months studying and readying myself for this).
So I came up for about 3-4 hours. That was a longggg time to come up I thought (although the entire trip lasted for about 8-10 hours). During the come up I was SO coldddddd. Colder then I think I have ever been and no amount of blankets or sweaters was helping. I was genuinely uncomfortable during this time, but for me, come-ups have always sucked and mentally I knew it would eventually be over and the good stuff will come. It was just, this was actually painful!
And as everything began coming together (basically dying), riddles started forming that was relevant to problems I had. Answering them began 'releasing' me from the come-up. That was WEIRD. Has anyone ever had an experience like that? One aspect that I had AFTER the come-up was, a true synesthesia of senses. Items or things I looked at/focused on formed as messages that I needed to hear or fundamental truths. That was cool!
I then (eyes closed) saw a baby pterodactyl get taken by a larger dinosaur bird and have it's life ended(I felt physical pain where the bird had it's life ended). I was told by whatever was directing the experience (at least that's what it was perceived to be) that I am to use my gifts to tell the story of the weak, those who suffered, those who cant tell their stories. I was then told any question I have I can return to it (5 dried g experience) and have it answered, but at a cost. I was told the price of admission was that I would have to experience and see the pain that others go through, so its not merely blips in the radar of history. I then looked out the window and then in my head I saw the bird that I visualized earlier and it was staring at me. Eerie.
Has anyone had these type of experiences before? Come-ups being physically awful, getting out of the come-up by answering riddles by the waves of consciousness that's pouring in, or being offered a deal like the one I was essentially offered? I also had some odd residual side-effects that lasted for a few hours (seemingly). My limbs were WEAKKKK. Anyone get this as well?
Love to hear your answers!!
Edited by CrazyDragon (12/01/20 02:13 PM)
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Re: Heroic dose, were any of your experiences like this??? [Re: CrazyDragon]
#27066475 - 12/01/20 02:22 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, heroic doses. And just plain insane doses of a mix of psychedelics. Interesting experience with yours. I felt the earth and mother earth was hurting badly, very much so from it being destroyed. One of those so deeply innate feelings of truth that one can't deny and my connection to it.
Just kept blabbering Mother and Father Spirit like I was an Native American protect me before the EMT's shot valium into me and was taken in an ambulance to a tent. This was at Woodstock 1999 and I don't take that level of mushrooms and lsd anymore.
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Re: Heroic dose, were any of your experiences like this??? [Re: Barnaby]
#27066582 - 12/01/20 03:15 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wow MIX of psychadelics? I have never even considered doing that! I have pretty specific goals when I do them so I'm trying to avoid absolute chaos ahah. Crazy story though dude!
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Re: Heroic dose, were any of your experiences like this??? [Re: CrazyDragon]
#27066599 - 12/01/20 03:24 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I like larger doses and basically always prepare to be cold. I frequently do a soak in an epsom salt bath before hand. I also usually wear long underwear and get into bed for the journey. I don't want to be thinking too much about body temperature.
And I think your mental experience follows what I consider the rough form of a high-dose trip (my preferred ones, BTW). Instead of doing all the stuff the moderate dose crowd seems to do (go hiking, go to a concert, hanging out with friends), I'm of the mind that these journeys are for deep, very-hard fought introspection. It's absolutely work at some level, but it really is wrestling with your demons and you should come out a much better person.
Welcome to the club, kind soul! I appreciated reading this, after reading a lot of stuff here that's put me off!
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Re: Heroic dose, were any of your experiences like this??? [Re: LeafRaker]
#27066616 - 12/01/20 03:36 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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"after reading a lot of stuff here that's put me off!"
Lol. Wow, need a safe space?
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Re: Heroic dose, were any of your experiences like this??? [Re: Barnaby]
#27066624 - 12/01/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nah, but some folks here definitely need help. It kind of unsurprising, given that there are clearly a lot of newbs who really don't know the lay of the land. Still unfortunate to see it in action.
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Re: Heroic dose, were any of your experiences like this??? [Re: LeafRaker]
#27066644 - 12/01/20 04:02 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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LeafRaker said: I like larger doses and basically always prepare to be cold. I frequently do a soak in an epsom salt bath before hand. I also usually wear long underwear and get into bed for the journey. I don't want to be thinking too much about body temperature.
And I think your mental experience follows what I consider the rough form of a high-dose trip (my preferred ones, BTW). Instead of doing all the stuff the moderate dose crowd seems to do (go hiking, go to a concert, hanging out with friends), I'm of the mind that these journeys are for deep, very-hard fought introspection. It's absolutely work at some level, but it really is wrestling with your demons and you should come out a much better person.
Welcome to the club, kind soul! I appreciated reading this, after reading a lot of stuff here that's put me off!
Great advice on the epsom salt bath. I'm glad I'm not the only one who experiences that uncomfortable cold feeling!!
And absolutely. I plan on writing more about my recent experience(s) because it was so overwhelmingly powerful, sensational, yet weird.
I remember at the peak I looked over at my couch and literally saw messages form as my vision put together what it saw, and although it sounds like it was in slow motion it was not. It was all very fast and complex, but I was able to largely follow what was going on. To have the world come together as insight and messages was an experience I did not anticipate (that aspect didn't last long but it was one of the many events that unfolded).
Reflecting on it, I believe the most powerful takeaway was the genuine feeling of making contact with a transcendent being, conversing, and answering many questions I prepared. Much to think on.
Glad to be in the club! It was scary doing Terence McKenna's recommended 5Gs but I had to do it. I recently did 4Gs to prepare and it didn't get me to trip which confused the hell out of me. I have tripped on FAR less, but looking back, I believe it was telling me to stop cowering and face up to the challenge I've been preparing for otherwise it wasn't going to do it's full thing. Very glad I went through with it.
Edited by CrazyDragon (12/01/20 04:03 PM)
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Re: Heroic dose, were any of your experiences like this??? [Re: CrazyDragon]
#27066847 - 12/01/20 05:50 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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CrazyDragon said: Wow MIX of psychadelics? I have never even considered doing that! I have pretty specific goals when I do them so I'm trying to avoid absolute chaos ahah. Crazy story though dude!
High/heroic dose lsd + high/heroic dose mushrooms is quite the experience. They potentiate each other, Absolute chaos is one way to put it but those tend to be my most rewarding trips. When I did that combo a few weeks ago I talked to God and had an insanely spiritual experience. The entitiy I saw was human like but certainly not human. I got down on my knees, asked God to have mercy on my soul, and broke down in tears. I Felt an instant relief, weightlessness, and bliss. These feelings have lingered beyond that trip. I considered myself agnostic before that particular moment
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Re: Heroic dose, were any of your experiences like this??? [Re: Rise against]
#27067545 - 12/02/20 04:31 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cant say that i have.
The riddles maybe. If im with people i often speak in riddles. And have complex formulations in my own mind on aspects of this reality.
The other stuff, no.
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Re: Heroic dose, were any of your experiences like this??? [Re: Enkidu]
#27067577 - 12/02/20 05:31 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Connecting with the mother earth entity and communicated that we are part of nature and needed and we are welcome to come back again was an enduring memory.
Thanks for the trip report, these help me remember what's important in life.
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Re: Heroic dose, were any of your experiences like this??? [Re: MetalSlug]
#27067582 - 12/02/20 05:38 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ya know it really threw me off saying tou saw dinosaurs and what not but when i think about it i have had visions. Usually not anything vivid like a picture
The only one that stands out is a man walking a narrow path with flames coming up from both sides. This was vivid. Each step was a life. We lived over and over. We made a mistake in the past and this was our punishment until we learned. What we were meant to learn was love. I cried, didnt want it to be true.
Ive felt like ive been told or shown things, a communication, but never like literal words asking questions or getting answers and never any of my control. More like i was told things directly to my mind or shown things that had meaning outside what i thought i could come up eith on my own. Like the mushrooms were telling me.
But i cant really say it sounds similar to what you described
Figured what the hell, ill share
Oh also never had a come up that long or a mushroom trip that long
Even when i dosed 200g fresh in a tea it followed the typical timeline
About 3 hours later i was coming back to baseline, if you can call it that
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Re: Heroic dose, were any of your experiences like this??? [Re: Enkidu]
#27067749 - 12/02/20 08:40 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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RiseAgainst Thanks for sharing that man. What a story! I think one of the most surreal aspects of the experience is, when you reflect on your experience completely sober, how much you DON'T dismiss due to the fact you were loaded. The experiences are as real, and sometimes feel even 'more' real, then actual life changing events. What a gift from the planet. I have a hard time believing nature accidentally produces something that connects us monkeys to such transcendental experiences. If you have any trip reports, please link them. I'd love to read!
OnlineEnkidu Thank you for the honesty! What's the maximum amount you've done and how do you do it?
MetalSlug That was a major prevalent message during the trip. It's why I thought the dinosaur visualization was interesting. It was connecting me to events that has happened on this planet far before we were ever even here.
Enkidu The scattered visuals (eyes closed) were at the peak of the trip, so right after the come up and right as it's really hitting home. It did not feel like I was alone at all. Your vision is pretty remarkable. I think it's pretty stunning that the most vivid visions have meaning. Logically, you'd think at the peak of being loaded this would be the least likely time it would happen, nope it seems to be the most likely time it happens. It's interesting how relatively short your trips are! From 200g fresh (20g dried equivalent) to baseline in 3 hours, wow! If you have any trip reports, please link them. I'd love to go through it!
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Re: Heroic dose, were any of your experiences like this??? [Re: CrazyDragon]
#27067852 - 12/02/20 09:30 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah typically around the 4 hour mark im coming down
I think the tea may have made it run through a bit quicker
From there theres hours of a comedown that is intensified with smoking weed
I think i only got one official report
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25185976/fpart/all/vc/1
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Re: Heroic dose, were any of your experiences like this??? [Re: Enkidu]
#27068240 - 12/02/20 01:38 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's an intense trip report @Enkidu, wow! Thank's for sharing
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Re: Heroic dose, were any of your experiences like this??? [Re: CrazyDragon]
#27069053 - 12/02/20 09:53 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Edited by Rise against (12/03/20 12:10 AM)
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Re: Heroic dose, were any of your experiences like this??? [Re: CrazyDragon]
#27069139 - 12/02/20 11:36 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes! My last trip was last December winter solstice, it's outlined below. Most intense, vivid trip yet and that was 6g dry!

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Re: Heroic dose, were any of your experiences like this??? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#27069250 - 12/03/20 02:52 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Datura scares me. Really the only thing that does when ingesting something as a plant. Not fungi. Death caps are named for a reason.
Never taken it but every experience of extreme dry mouth, one can never drink enough liquid to quench that thirst, and the forgetfulness of those experiences and I have just read one positive, somewhat, on Erowid about it. And still, no. But I still kind of want to have one experience on it.
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