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Can microdosing bring on derealization or depersonalization? Mushrooms are fucking weird.
#27065691 - 12/01/20 01:40 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I recently had probably the worse trip of my life (read about it here. )
I experienced derealization for a brief period during my trip where I didn't know what was real or not. I know this is normal while tripping but this type of thinking has only happened from mushrooms and low doses too like 1.5g-2.15g. This has never happened on acid and I actually like acid way better than mushrooms because it is so clear headed and not much of a mind fuck like mushrooms. I've been doing research on the simulation theory and quantum physics so my thinking about reality has lately been about things like "What's the nature of reality?" "Everything is a simulation, nothing is real"" "Our brains hallucinate our conscious reality" "What if life is a dream?"
Should I stop thinking about these types of questions with the simulation theory? I think they might be skewing my view of reality just a tiny bit. One time on mushrooms probably about a couple of months ago or so I had a trip where I felt like I got outside of the matrix and that I could see the simulation and when I wasn't tripping anymore I was just kind of tripping out on the fact that nothing is really real. Everything is coded and simulated in front of our eyes. I was able to snap out of it really fast and it was not derealization or anything but for the day after that trip I was sort of just going around my day looking at everything and thinking to myself "this all is not real" "Life is all a game" . Those thoughts lasted a day and then back to normal the next day when I woke up. I had those thoughts but was still grounded to reality.
At this point I'm a little scared to trip on mushrooms again because I really don't want to snap into a derealization/depersonalization episode. Would it be safe to microdose? I'm sitting on an oz of shrooms that I don't really want going to waste. Same question for LSD because I have some (about 15 tabs with 100μg each) that I don't want going to waste.
If you don't recommend microdosing then I'm probably just going to save all of this for a later time (longer than my typical 1 month waiting time) when I'm in a much much better head space. And take a break from psychedelics for a while.
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Re: Can microdosing bring on derealization or depersonalization? Mushrooms are fucking weird. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind] 1
#27066287 - 12/01/20 12:57 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey!
So I read your trip and, by all accounts, nothing was outside the realm of possibilities for mushrooms.
On my last trip, I felt each individual atom in my body vibrate which led to the most intense fear of my life, my ego dissolved while I was taking a piss and I had to check on my biological meters constantly during the come-up because my reality was shattering waaaaaay too fast.
It was the strongest and most frightening trip of my life (1.5g APEs felt like 4g+ of regular cubes easily).
Also, on just about every trip I've taken, my "essence" gives me a laundry list of things that are wrong with me before my ego can return in full swing and pretend that those issues are insignificant. So it's normal to feel disgusted at your shortcomings or problems while tripping. At least I have on many occasions tripping (mushrooms exclusively, I've never used LSD).
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OutsideOfMyMind said: I've been doing research on the simulation theory and quantum physics so my thinking about reality has lately been about things like "What's the nature of reality?" "Everything is a simulation, nothing is real"" "Our brains hallucinate our conscious reality" "What if life is a dream?"
Should I stop thinking about these types of questions with the simulation theory?
It depends. If such thinking is doing you harm, then perhaps explore why that might be so.
There's nothing inherently wrong with that sort of thinking. I think about that all of the time. That might be because I live my life through the lens of my interest in philosophy.
But, even though I think that way, I also have the "spiritual" teachings to bail me out. So what if it's all an illusion? I am something experiencing something. Might as well revel in that fact alone.
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OutsideOfMyMind said: Would it be safe to microdose?
Take some time to integrate your last trip. Reflect on why you felt the things you felt. Try and connect them with your current life. You've made some practical realizations during the trip as you wrote in your report, see if there are any others that could be found in the experience you had.
Read Carl Jungs "Psychology and Alchemy". See if any of the symbolism in the book can help you work through your trip experience.
Or just take some time to be. Accept your experience. It contained untold beauty, even in the madness.
Anyway, microdosing is safe biologically. Is it safe "mentally", "emotionally" or "spiritually" after such a heavy trip? Depends on if you project your last experience onto the micro-dose.
Generally speaking, micro-dosing is done at such a low dosage that you should feel little to nothing. There should most definitely not be any classic "tripping" manifestations when micro-dosing. But the mind is powerful and, paired with even the small amount of magic in a micro-dose, can make it feel uncomfortable.
For what its worth, my trips have had no bearing on my micro-doses. The worst I'll get from a micro-dose is a bit of physical discomfort akin to the "butterflies" in the stomach sort of feeling.
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OutsideOfMyMind said: And take a break from psychedelics for a while.
Sometimes this is a great idea. I'm going on 2 months from my last dose. The experience still lingers and I haven't properly integrated it. Until then I feel a full trip isn't necessary. Integration is the key to moving forward.
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Re: Can microdosing bring on derealization or depersonalization? Mushrooms are fucking weird. [Re: Socrateshroom] 1
#27076422 - 12/07/20 01:17 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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over a gram is not micrdose.. issues shouldnt really be issues if microdose just fyi
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