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Re: Life on earth? [Re: Enkidu]
    #27063244 - 11/29/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

sorry, was not saying you misunderstood but just pointing out to be suspicious of anyone applying the term socialism so liberally. Whatever you think of the ideology, the term is misapplied a lot.


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Re: Life on earth? [Re: Ezuma]
    #27063922 - 11/30/20 02:58 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I honestly think we're fucked once we switch to a completely digital currency.

Especially if it's a global one.

Not that we've been doing great with global banking since about 1913 anyway, but hey.


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Re: Life on earth? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27064319 - 11/30/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I honestly think we're fucked once we switch to a completely digital currency.

Especially if it's a global one.

Not that we've been doing great with global banking since about 1913 anyway, but hey.




I don't think we'll be making that switch soon, but I really don't know.
You're right the history of banking has been pretty iffy, basically constant economic crashes since its inception


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Re: Life on earth? [Re: Ezuma] * 1
    #27064365 - 11/30/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Well i still dont know what to believe regarding it as i havent done any research and just read the replies involving it.

I suppose either way what can i do besides focus on my life and goals, do the best i can with my current reality, am i wrong?


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Re: Life on earth? [Re: Enkidu]
    #27065222 - 11/30/20 06:56 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Well i still dont know what to believe regarding it as i havent done any research and just read the replies involving it.

I suppose either way what can i do besides focus on my life and goals, do the best i can with my current reality, am i wrong?




pretty much right about that


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Re: Life on earth? [Re: Ezuma]
    #27065245 - 11/30/20 07:07 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Right like fuck

Idk wtf is going on at all in this crazy world...

Hard to do shit besides whats directly in front of me


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Re: Life on earth? [Re: Enkidu]
    #27065315 - 11/30/20 07:41 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Things should quit being so expensive that you need to take out a loan to pay for it or getting it subsidized. Cars, houses, phones, college degrees, etc. They are only so expensive so that the bankers can make money.

Cars should be no more than $5,000 brand new, maybe $10,000 for a luxury vehicle like a Mercedes or Lexus or something. an old 20 year old used car should be no more than like $500. A house shouldn't cost more than $10,000 and maybe $50,000 for a mansion. Phones should be under $100. And college should be free considering more than half the fucking people in every class end up dropping out anyway.


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Re: Life on earth? [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27065547 - 11/30/20 10:07 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Things should quit being so expensive that you need to take out a loan to pay for it or getting it subsidized. Cars, houses, phones, college degrees, etc. They are only so expensive so that the bankers can make money.

Cars should be no more than $5,000 brand new, maybe $10,000 for a luxury vehicle like a Mercedes or Lexus or something. an old 20 year old used car should be no more than like $500. A house shouldn't cost more than $10,000 and maybe $50,000 for a mansion. Phones should be under $100. And college should be free considering more than half the fucking people in every class end up dropping out anyway.




that or people need to make more money (same thing I know) which isn't gonna happen if we leave things up to the free market OR to the donor classes who run the politicians


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    #27065648 - 12/01/20 12:06 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Loaded Shaman said:
I honestly think we're fucked once we switch to a completely digital currency.

Especially if it's a global one.

Not that we've been doing great with global banking since about 1913 anyway, but hey.




I don't think we'll be making that switch soon, but I really don't know.
You're right the history of banking has been pretty iffy, basically constant economic crashes since its inception




From my perspective they're making in unpopular to own things, everything will be a service/commodity, and you'll have a social credit like China does, where someone somewhere can just turn off your money because reasons.

Not even a conspiracy it appears Sweden had "less issues with COVID" because they've already got a semi-digital currency system up and running. All banking is centralized via the EU and England.

They're using COVID as a reason for people to get used to being judged for something and not being allowed to shop, spend, or frequent a particular area.

I wish I were joking, I didn't even rip the bong yet this morning.


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Re: Life on earth? [Re: Enkidu]
    #27065792 - 12/01/20 05:31 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Damn man that shit was crazy

So basically my friend played this show on netflix or whatever and it showed how we have destroyed our planet over the years and how its getting worse, meanwhile we watch it on a television and go about our lives being shown a world destroyed and continuing as a cog in the wheel

Then the same people showing us a video of a beautiful world they destroyed while telling us the old cultures used to live abundantly one with nature, tell us the way to fix the issue is to adopt the ways of other countries like china where they have one child etc and show basically depopulation is the answer

Whole shits was beyond fucked up watching

Anyone seen this show..?

Shit like this makes me scared for my childrens future and what the world will be like... Fuck man...





I used to adore Attenborough's nature documentaries. Really well made, amazing shots, excellent to see the beauty of nature accompanied by his soothing voice.

Lately it feels like his shows have been incredibly pessimistic and bordering on propaganda. I used to be a Greenpeace hippy but after a few years of studying environmental science, social science and politics for my degree, I'm less convinced about what we "should" do. There are no easy answers, but there are lots of ways of making things worse through good intentions.

The earth is a very complicated system, and we do not live outside the system. We ARE nature, and a rather successful species at that. Why shouldn't Mother Nature be proud to call us her children? The earth is certainly beautiful in infinite ways, but Mother Nature is also a bitch and it seems rose-tinted to view the world as perfect, virtuous, and would be better off if humans weren't around. Environmental concern is not a bad idea, but when it comes to anti-humanism, anti-natalism, depopulation, and anti-democratic global political compliance on behalf of science and nature, I get a little skeptical. I don't believe any problem can be solved by "depopulation" - if anything, have more kids. Lots of people complain there are too many people on the planet (really, how would we know?) but few of them ever volunteer to leave first. If you appreciate your life, then you can't really say others don't deserve a chance as well. An ageing population is bad for humans and also not great for the planet because we'll make an awful mess on our way out.

There's lots of talk these days about oppression and so on, but there is no entity that has oppressed humans as much as "nature" has. Only in the past few centuries has humanity managed to cast off or loosen some of the shackles of nature - early death, high death rate of women in childbirth, high death rate of babies and children, untold suffering, being eaten by predators, natural disasters. We have adapted to so much of it, yes at a cost to other parts of the ecosystems but I don't think we'll do any permanent damage. Perhaps we are witnessing Ego-death of our modern civilisations, but we can't prevent other civilisations rising as they have always done before.

It used to be that emotional messaging was useful for encouraging individuals to make "better" choices. That's fine for discouraging littering and so on but the BBC is full-swing into pestering people to vote for political parties who have utopian solutions for somehow "fixing" climate change, even if it requires compliance by coercion by a global political power that wants your money and liberties. That will end badly, and won't help the earth.


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