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#27064992 - 11/30/20 04:33 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I studied psychology for a while
About 4 courses away from my bachelors
Got a girl who lives 6 hours and 2 states away pregnant so i moved and got into construction
Been working construction the last year and a half
Framing houses, doing additions and some interior and exterior work, remodeling and the like. Learned a lot, come a long way since i first started.
Got a new job doing kitchen and bathroom remodeling with a company that looks pretty damn good. Backed up 9 months with work even in these times. Good reviews. 4 guys working for the owners. Got their own showroom and do the design work and have the guys do the labor work. Ill be learning from them.
So i wana continue this work and get good at taking care of a home and get to know my way around all that.
Be useful for my future as far as home upkeep and doing some work and remodeling of my own.
Maybe ill finish my degree in the next 5 years or so and have that as an option for work.
So do you think the future of construction and this line of work can help me build a career and live a decent life?
I have one child and another on the way.
Gonna have a house for them to grow up in and some land to live on and hopefully live off a bit.
What do you older guys who been through some shit think?
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Re: My future career [Re: Enkidu]
#27064999 - 11/30/20 04:42 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fuck yeah dude. Construction is where it's at.
Psychology degree was what I wasted my time on too. What can you do with a Bachelors in Psych? Nothing. Waste of time.
Keep on it. We got fucked by the hype on college. Would most definitely go in anything construction related if I could go back and do it. At least there you can own your own business. As a nurse I'm essentially forced to work for the man forever.
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Yeah i hear ya man.
Hook line and sinker for the whole "love what youre doing" thing
I do like how construction is very lucrative. Can take the skills anywhere and i keep hearing theres a shortage of honest men who are quality craftsman.
Keep hearing ita a dying breed.. So lots of opportunity..
Just wasnt sure how thinga might change as time goes on.
If a hurt economy might make work harder to find and shit like that
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Re: My future career [Re: Enkidu]
#27065036 - 11/30/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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What’s up man? Glad to hear things seem to be working out for you on the career front.
If you like construction and the money’s right, definitely keep it up. There’s always a future in it, and you’ll be working with all the different trades so you’ll know if pursuing something similar in the future would be a good next move for you, as well as make plenty of job connections. Business might get rough depending on the economy, but with automation and everything else going on very few industries are really completely secure for the future.
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metalfaith said: Psychology degree was what I wasted my time on too. What can you do with a Bachelors in Psych? Nothing. Waste of time.
Keep on it. We got fucked by the hype on college. Would most definitely go in anything construction related if I could go back and do it. At least there you can own your own business. As a nurse I'm essentially forced to work for the man forever.
Why do you think that? I have a Psych degree and have plenty of people I went to school with making 6 figures in marketing or management positions. Many more went on to therapy or research grad programs. A psych background got me into my grad school program and I’ll be an independent clinician in a medical rehab field making 6 figures soon if I want to (though I’m likely going with a more fun/less money position). As a nurse there are plenty of unique jobs to get into if you look for them, someone here was a nurse at a ketamine injection clinic I believe, a friend of mine travels around to all these awesome different camps for kids with disabilities as a pediatric nurse.
In the end Enkidu if you haven’t committed to a career yet, you really should base your work in what makes you happy. With kids the money is obviously high up on the priority list, but as long as their needs are covered having a healthy happy dad will be far better for them than a few bucks extra in a college fund or whatever.
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metalfaith said: Fuck yeah dude. Construction is where it's at.
Psychology degree was what I wasted my time on too. What can you do with a Bachelors in Psych? Nothing. Waste of time.
Truth, if you are aren't taking it to the doctorate level there is no point in a Psychology degree.
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Re: My future career [Re: feevers]
#27065055 - 11/30/20 05:11 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah good advice man
I think right now it works because i want the skills anyway for when i have a place of my own.
Will be so worth it, i enjoy learning the shit that will help me take care of my house. And then i can buy something and fix it up and make a good home or some extra money if i sell
Finishing my degree sounds a bit daunting..
But if me and my ex arent together (we arent right now while shes pregnant for the second time, same shit as first pregnancy) then i might have an easier time finishing my degree.
Shes not letting me have my daughter anywhere near as much as i want
I just dont know where id take it and i was originally planning for grad school
Nice to hear from ya Feevers my friend, glad things are working out for you.
Has covid impacted your sector at all?
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Re: My future career [Re: feevers]
#27065065 - 11/30/20 05:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I dont have experience in construction or physc but I would say there will always be money in construction/building, my very close family friend owns a kitchen/bathroom showroom business and they do very well, they are also interior architects.
My background is in mechanical engineering and there were some people on my course who were sponsored by their construction companies to study. In reality they just got credibility for signing documents and hated the course.
I hated my degree and after i got paid good money to also hate my work, got moved around the continent to work for big clients that everyone has heard of, was consistently pushed to sign contracts that wanted to pay me money and train me for management ect but after 2 years I was done. The bosses were thought i was completely crazy (they were offering me a "stable" career path ect ect but completely ignoring my requests at every turn)
My point is... do what you love, study if you love physc, enjoy studying it though. Going to school for the opportunity to potentially earn more is not (imo) the right attitude, you should study because its something you want to study and job prospects are not even secondary (i realise with the cost of studying this is not always the case for most people but its education first)
Im rambling. I just feel quite strongly about this because its been a huge part of my life that i regret/but also its how i got to where i am today.
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No i appreciate the reply
I love psychology and the idea of helping people
I think im very good at it and would make a decent therapist or counselor and would love to work with young people
Would be awesome to have a cushy job as a professor
Guess im just lazy, some courses i do not fucking like.
Like foreign language
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Re: My future career [Re: Enkidu]
#27065110 - 11/30/20 05:43 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Go ahead OP
Whether something works out, no matter what line of work, depends on a lot of factors and is relative to what you put in. It sounds like there is promise there in your current standing.
Finishing the courses on the back side is great too, and definitely something to accomplish before too-too much time goes on if you can.
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Re: My future career [Re: ch0ppie]
#27065119 - 11/30/20 05:46 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yep i hear ya man
Yeah i think hard work and being an honest person who does quality shit goes a long fucking way in any area of life
Construction is one of the first jobs ive ever had that i dont get bored as shit as im always learning and growing and i like that it's an investment in myself and not necessarily into a company where if i lose my job im fucked
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Re: My future career [Re: Enkidu]
#27065142 - 11/30/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Enkidu said: Yeah good advice man
I think right now it works because i want the skills anyway for when i have a place of my own.
Will be so worth it, i enjoy learning the shit that will help me take care of my house. And then i can buy something and fix it up and make a good home or some extra money if i sell
Finishing my degree sounds a bit daunting..
But if me and my ex arent together (we arent right now while shes pregnant for the second time, same shit as first pregnancy) then i might have an easier time finishing my degree.
Shes not letting me have my daughter anywhere near as much as i want
I just dont know where id take it and i was originally planning for grad school
Nice to hear from ya Feevers my friend, glad things are working out for you.
Has covid impacted your sector at all?
I hear ya, but with 4 classes left if it was me I’d be doing everything I could just to get it over with, especially after investing all the time/effort into the first 3.5 years of it. Even a lot of jobs you’d never think of will tack on a little bit to your starting salary based on degree level.
You should see if there’s any way to finish up your courses online, there are so many grants that can make it practically free, even when you do your taxes I think you can get up to like $2k right back if you spent it on school. Online courses can be easy as hell if you scope out your professor on my ratemyprofessor first, senior year psych classes are awesome too, depending on the school you have some really interesting topics to choose from. You could see if your school does any accelerated semesters, I went to a state school they had “winter session” courses that were full 3 credit courses in literally 3 weeks. During the summer there were 6 and 8 week semesters offered, you might be able to bang 4 courses out in a couple months.
Hope things can work out for you seeing your daughter, that situation sounds real shitty.
I’ll be neck deep in COVID soon. Starting my clinical rotations in January, doing 3 months at a rehab hospital that’s solely working with COVID patients. Lots of critical illness myopathy/neuropathy from people in being in the ICU and incapacitated for so long, plus the obvious pulmonary/cardiac/stroke recovery that’s going hand in hand with COVID. I’ve been there observing and it’s wilder than I can describe. Not what I expected when I got into this field lol, but it’ll definitely be an experience I never forget.
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Re: My future career [Re: feevers]
#27065146 - 11/30/20 06:10 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Damn man thata crazy
You worried about being around it at all?
Yeah i need to at least get my bachelors
Honestly its the fucking foreign language rhat kills me man. I have putting it off my entire college career...
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Re: My future career [Re: Enkidu]
#27065151 - 11/30/20 06:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you've got the smarts and got the skills all you need is the drive to be your own boss.
It takes all three to do it.
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Re: My future career [Re: Enkidu]
#27065155 - 11/30/20 06:19 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Enkidu said: Damn man thata crazy
You worried about being around it at all?
Yeah i need to at least get my bachelors
Honestly its the fucking foreign language rhat kills me man. I have putting it off my entire college career...
Oh damn you saved foreign language for last? If you can take it online it’ll be cake, chrome has an option that translates your whole browser for you.
Not really worried, I’m 95% sure I had it back in March, threw up for the first time in a decade then had a fever, crazy body aches, and couldn’t climb stairs without almost passing out and needing to catch my breath... right after attending a conference and riding public transportation into the city right when things were spreading here. If not I start that one in April, the vaccine should be ready for healthcare workers who work with COVID patients by then.
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Re: My future career [Re: feevers]
#27065190 - 11/30/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Gotcha, be interesting working in all that
Yeah i think i got the business sense and people skills, honest and high standards for quality work, just need to learn the trades more
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Re: My future career [Re: feevers]
#27065206 - 11/30/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Feevers, you trying to tell me that your friend leveraged a psych degree for a management position making 6 figures? I have never heard of such a thing. All I know about positions like that is you leverage your work experience and competence and they just want any BS degree as a placeholder (as in any Bachelor degree will do).
What you doing rotations on? Nursing? I saw you post something about that before and forgot to ask.
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Become a contractor.
Hire who you need for a house construction and be able to do the work yourself if somebody doesn't show up.
You'll make waaaayyy more money by taking a profit off the entire job.
All you need to do is learn how to do the books and learn how to schedule people right.
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Re: My future career [Re: Patlal]
#27065252 - 11/30/20 07:10 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah i kinda wana go that direction once i know the work
Wana get everything down then from there i could oversee shit
Thought about trying to flip properties and things like that, even if its jist my own place and over a few years and maybe eventually buy a place and sub the work then flip it quicker
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Re: My future career [Re: Enkidu]
#27065282 - 11/30/20 07:25 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Enkidu said: Yeah i kinda wana go that direction once i know the work
Wana get everything down then from there i could oversee shit
Thought about trying to flip properties and things like that, even if its jist my own place and over a few years and maybe eventually buy a place and sub the work then flip it quicker
Flipping you own property is profitable.
You'll have to flip many properties to make a living out of it.
You'd have to be a contractor to make it profitable.
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Re: My future career [Re: Patlal]
#27065299 - 11/30/20 07:33 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah would be a long way away for that
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Re: My future career [Re: Enkidu]
#27065312 - 11/30/20 07:40 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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GC is exactly what my end goal would be if I could go back. My good friend just got his license and is rolling in dough now.
If you can(hopefully you can, assuming here) manage to have good social skills, show up to work 99% of the time like the rest of us and not be high while working, you are in the top 10% of construction workers (IME). If you can manage money well, you move yourself up to the top 5% I'd ballpark. (Complete estimates, but sentiment remains).
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Really good to know
Appreciate it
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Re: My future career [Re: Enkidu]
#27065355 - 11/30/20 08:00 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Enkidu said: I studied psychology for a while
About 4 courses away from my bachelors
Got a girl who lives 6 hours and 2 states away pregnant so i moved and got into construction
Been working construction the last year and a half
Framing houses, doing additions and some interior and exterior work, remodeling and the like. Learned a lot, come a long way since i first started.
Got a new job doing kitchen and bathroom remodeling with a company that looks pretty damn good. Backed up 9 months with work even in these times. Good reviews. 4 guys working for the owners. Got their own showroom and do the design work and have the guys do the labor work. Ill be learning from them.
So i wana continue this work and get good at taking care of a home and get to know my way around all that.
Be useful for my future as far as home upkeep and doing some work and remodeling of my own.
Maybe ill finish my degree in the next 5 years or so and have that as an option for work.
So do you think the future of construction and this line of work can help me build a career and live a decent life?
I have one child and another on the way.
Gonna have a house for them to grow up in and some land to live on and hopefully live off a bit.
What do you older guys who been through some shit think?
I started in construction and stayed with it to get me through an engineering degree in electronics and electrical engineering. I have the degrees now and stuck with construction because I like it and the money is much better. I learned what I could from the best guys I could and opened my own business. I can easily make $200,000 to $300,000 if I work full-time and I work much more than that and I work alone. If I hired a couple guys then I could probably double it, or more. I also learned enough to rebuild my own house all by myself and saved a ton of money. I more than doubled the value since I got it and I'm not done yet. Then I will do it with the next house too.
The new generation is a bunch of little girls that don't like hard work so that means I have all the work that I could ever want with almost no competition.
The work is no fun when you're old though, just look at the old guys working around you and listen to how much they complain about aches and pains. Work hard, save your money, and start your own business before you get old.
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You never said what type of construction, Loph.
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I'm an electrical contractor.
If I could start over then I might be a plumber or finish carpenter. I think plumbers and masons make the most money, but I really enjoy what I do. You get a good feeling of pride and contributing to society when you wire a house or factory, turn it on, and have everything working right off the bat. Especially when I troubleshoot something in 10 minutes that it took another electricians days to work on without even figuring it out. Besides the pay, I find the job to be very rewarding.
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Yeah man that is the truth.
Thats why i left framing after 6 months. Was already taking a toll and guy i worked for was 60+ doing it all on roofs and everything...
Everyone tells me it takes a toll..
I like building big shit and would like experience in it but im already almost 30. Figured some time with a good company specializing in kitchen and bathroom remodels might be a good learning experience.
And everywhere i go i hear they cant find people to show up every day, let alone someone who knows what theyre doing..
Seems a dying breed
Thats why i figure i need to get my dwgree to fall back on too if i get too old and tired. Something more cushy then i still have the knowledge and skill to work on and upgrade wherever im living
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metalfaith said: Feevers, you trying to tell me that your friend leveraged a psych degree for a management position making 6 figures? I have never heard of such a thing. All I know about positions like that is you leverage your work experience and competence and they just want any BS degree as a placeholder (as in any Bachelor degree will do).
What you doing rotations on? Nursing? I saw you post something about that before and forgot to ask.
Yea, one’s a higher up for an insurance company making $110k, she had worked there part time in billing throughout school and leveraged the degree to move into management. Another got hired right out of school by Puma for marketing, they moved her out to Cali I believe and she’s making right around 100k, no other experience she was like 22. Another is a store manager at Whole Foods, made $200k+ last year. Obviously the degree didn’t get him the job but it does make you stand out compared to your peers in fields where most don’t have degrees. ABA therapy jobs around here start at $25-30 with a psych bachelors and many will pay for your grad school, admin jobs with those companies are mostly psych majors and they make bank. There are lots of lower level human services jobs with nonprofits where you can quickly move up to a group home/program director or admin staff and be making around 50k, because your competition is usually non-existent. Idk, it’s a whole different ballgame than things like pol sci; lit, language; library science etc degrees as long as you’re somewhat creative with it.
I’m pretty niche/specialized in my field so it’d be too easy to ID me if I said specifically what I do, not nursing though. I was considering NP for a while but it seems like they’re being pigeonholed into more just pill-pusher roles
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metalfaith said: Fuck yeah dude. Construction is where it's at.
Psychology degree was what I wasted my time on too. What can you do with a Bachelors in Psych? Nothing. Waste of time.
Truth, if you are aren't taking it to the doctorate level there is no point in a Psychology degree.
Masters at the bare minimum would be needed for any psychology degree to be useful. The most you can do with just a psychology bachelor's degree is being a manager at a retail store. Once this economic recession and depression really seriously hits, construction is not going to be big anymore. Construction is one of the first industries to go during a recession and depression.
And how do you leave a girl that you got pregnant out of state but then you want a house for your kids...that you left? I'm not against men leaving women that they got pregnant because I believe the man has a choice too and unless the woman has a goddamn ring on her finger or a fucking marriage certificate she is sort of asking for it anyway, but don't you just think that's a little bit fucked up? I'm not trying to be a dick or anything. Like if you're going to leave the girl that you got pregnant then shouldn't you just leave the children behind also?
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She wanted me to leave. She acts absolutely insane when shes pregnant. Fuck off because you dont know shit about the situations. I told her i wanted to stay and make things work and even now i would mske things work so fuck you
And i would never leave my kids you piece of shit
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Re: My future career [Re: Enkidu]
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There's no shame in working construction or the like. And you get to leave work behind when work-hours are finished, as there's nothing to bring home in the form of stress or extra work on your own time. Which gives you more time for kids and family, i.e. all the stuff that really matters.
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Re: My future career [Re: Enkidu]
#27065821 - 12/01/20 06:17 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah im sorry but that shit pissed me the fuck off. Like you know me or a single fucking thing about me or any of my family or what ive been through and you want to talk shit and judge and tell me to leave my kids.
Get the fuck out of here.
You obviously dont have kids or if you do and you say some shit like that then youre garbage
I would do absolutely anything for mine
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Re: My future career [Re: Enkidu]
#27066530 - 12/01/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Enkidu said: She wanted me to leave. She acts absolutely insane when shes pregnant. Fuck off because you dont know shit about the situations. I told her i wanted to stay and make things work and even now i would mske things work so fuck you
And i would never leave my kids you piece of shit
You NEVER explained this in the op dude so how about YOU fuck off??? You can't just leave information out and then get mad at me for saying something about something that's not the way that it was. You can just take back everything I said because now I know the bitch wanted you to leave.
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Re: My future career [Re: Enkidu]
#27066543 - 12/01/20 02:56 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Enkidu said: Got a girl who lives 6 hours and 2 states away pregnant so i moved and got into construction
This makes no fucking sense to the comment you said to me previously. This sentence makes it sound like you left the girl because you accidentally got her pregnant. Nowhere did you state that you left her because she wanted you to fucking leave. Did you just finish first grade reading comprehension? Go edit your original post and add the fact that the bitch told you to leave because the way it is right now it just sounds like you left because you got a girl pregnant and didn't want to be a dad.
God I'm so glad I'm not heterosexual having to deal with fucking kids and bitches.
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Re: My future career [Re: Enkidu]
#27066548 - 12/01/20 03:01 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Enkidu said: Yeah im sorry but that shit pissed me the fuck off. Like you know me or a single fucking thing about me or any of my family or what ive been through and you want to talk shit and judge and tell me to leave my kids.
Get the fuck out of here.
You obviously dont have kids or if you do and you say some shit like that then youre garbage
I would do absolutely anything for mine
Go back to fucking first grade and take reading comprehension. And you need to edit your original post and explain that the girl wanted you to leave. Your fucking heterosexual problems are fucking retarded. Next time you get a bitch pregnant make sure you're actually married to her so she can't tell you to fucking leave. Fucking God damn heterosexual problems. People like you are why the world is so fucked up.
You are right, I don't know shit about your life so it is your job to make sure you include all pertinent information in the original post.
I wasn't even trying to be a dick in my first post but now you've pissed me off so now I'm going to be a dick to you. Don't get fucking bitches pregnant unless you're fucking married to them.
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I'd finish the degree, you'll probably get a pay bump from your employer for it. Counter and cabinetry work pays very well for experts at it. I bet the older guys at the top of small company doing the actual measurements and installs make almost 100k depending on where you live.
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Re: My future career [Re: Ice9]
#27066671 - 12/01/20 04:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh ok my fault bro
No hard feelings "outsideofmymind"
No i got her pregnant so i moved so i could take care of my family. Been trying to make it work but its been a struggle as most things are
"Dont get em pregnant unless youre married"
Thats good advice
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Re: My future career [Re: Enkidu]
#27066777 - 12/01/20 05:10 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Apology accepted. I'm sorry myself for getting all aggro. I kind of had a bad trip on Friday night and I've had a tiny tiny bit of anxiety since then.
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No its all good bro, just a miscommunication that rubbed us both the wrong way
It happens
Whatd ya take ?
I havent been tripping much lately but recently had a great mushroom trip and a great lsd trip.
The L sent me pretty deep down the rabbit hole
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Re: My future career [Re: Enkidu]
#27066844 - 12/01/20 05:49 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I only took 2.15 grams of golden teachers. Ever since I had a really strong 200 microgram trip on August 5th lower doses have been affecting me more strongly. Earlier in the year I could easily take an eighth but ever since that overly strong 200 microgram trip, I have needed lower doses to get my rocks off. Can a strong acid trip open up pathways in the brain to make it so you don't need High dosages anymore to get off?
I like acid better than shrooms because shrooms are just an emotional mind fuck where with acid I find to be a lot more predictable and a lot more clear-headed. I've actually never had a bad trip with acid, just an overly strong one which I did not consider a bad trip. The only time I had a bad trip on acid was the first time I did it with an old friend and I told her to turn off her damn phone before we started tripping but she left the damn thing on and she was texting her stupid boyfriend and then she called him and said something stupid to him so then he drove over to where we were and he ruined our trip. But that literally was not my fault and I only trip solo now.
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I had a period where i over did it a bit and that shit kinda ruined every trip i had after for a while
I recently came off a long fucking break since ive been so damn busy
I think it really helped me kinda repair and get ready again
I was tripping and it just wasnt doing it for me like it use to
Mainly mushrooms, always healing and therapeutic and beyond beneficial, then it was like every trip was difficult and judt not giving me the benefits i came to love and appreciate from the psyches
Coming off that break i ate 5g recently and it was right back like it use to be
Great trip. Picture perfect of what i use to experience.
Then i took about 200-250 ug of lsd over this break, was pretty damn good
For me mushrooms have always been more beneficial where L sometimes left me without something "good"
Had a time i was tripping regular eith it and it was a blast... But idk. That bad trip changed things a bit for me... Made things hit a bit harder and weirder in ways that seemed borderline destructive
I found L to be a bit closer to ,cant think of the word, ill come back
Disassociative type of deal
Where mushrooms always left me feeling much more grounded in reality
Maybe take a break or tone it down a bit
Wise man once told me no harm in that. Always there to come back to...
I found smoking weed didnt always help either and taking a break there let my mind sort of regain its rigid shape and structure
Rambling but maybe some of that might help
Also, after my difficult trip on dmt then a huge fucking one on mushrooms everything hit me harder.
Took 2g following that at a festival and i needed to fucking go hide in my tent cause it was bringing on all that powerful shit full effect from the other trips
Dmt first time fucked me up a bit. 200g fresh mushrooms after that really hit me hard beyond measure. Ptsd type of shit.
But you get through it and you're stronger
Took a break and sorted out a lot of shit in life and became a much better person. Took care of business in the real world outside my own party if you know what i mean
Get stronger and better, took a breather and relaxed from it... Seemed to be good for me
Ramble on
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Re: My future career [Re: Enkidu]
#27066904 - 12/01/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cool. This actually really helped me what you just said. Mushrooms have always been more of an emotional mind fuck for me. When it's a good trip, it's a beautiful mind fuck but when it's a bad trip, it really just throws your emotions around and fucks with your mind. This last time I experienced mild derealization where I couldn't tell what was real and what wasn't. I've never gotten that feeling from acid, I only ever experience positive emotions on acid. when I do get shown my emotions on acid it does it in a more gentle loving beautiful way compared to mushrooms whereas mushrooms show you your emotions like a cold hard slap in the face. I can take acid for fun whereas with mushrooms I can only do them for therapeutic and spiritual purposes and only if everything in my life is going perfect. The problem with this last trip was I had something on the back of my mind just an inkling and it all came to the forefront way too hard and made the trip fill of anxiety and bad feelings. This was also the first mushroom trip where my stomach felt like shit the entire time so I made myself puke which only made me feel a tiny bit better but I still had a horrible body load. Anyway I don't want to derail This thread but you can read about my trip here: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27062278/page/1
I don't know man, for me acid enhances my reality and makes me feel reality much more clearly where as mushrooms just sort of fuck with my reality and I have no clue what's real and what's not.
Also the whole frequency of the planet is really fucked up right now because of covid and the political atmosphere which has given my trips a darker mood to them.
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Damn, interesting
Yeah man mushrooms are work sometimes but i find it has always been really rewarding to face that deep dark shit and then come out in a better place
At least for me, the high dose mushroom trip is consistent
Come up is the unsettling weirdness as the mushrooms travel my body and mind as if reading me, about an hour in they force me to face reality and my demons, eventually that breaks into a feeling of bliss and laughter, a weight is lifted and i have a clearer mind. Insight into the world and myself as well as the next course of action is revealed. And a period of meditative repose as i contemplate.
I have taken high doses many times in my most troubling periods of life.
Lsd has less frequently offered such benefecial experiences but it has given me profound and powerful experiences none the less I love lsd a lot.
Ill check out your report
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metalfaith said: Fuck yeah dude. Construction is where it's at.
Psychology degree was what I wasted my time on too. What can you do with a Bachelors in Psych? Nothing. Waste of time.
Truth, if you are aren't taking it to the doctorate level there is no point in a Psychology degree.
Masters at the bare minimum would be needed for any psychology degree to be useful. The most you can do with just a psychology bachelor's degree is being a manager at a retail store. Once this economic recession and depression really seriously hits, construction is not going to be big anymore. Construction is one of the first industries to go during a recession and depression.
And how do you leave a girl that you got pregnant out of state but then you want a house for your kids...that you left? I'm not against men leaving women that they got pregnant because I believe the man has a choice too and unless the woman has a goddamn ring on her finger or a fucking marriage certificate she is sort of asking for it anyway, but don't you just think that's a little bit fucked up? I'm not trying to be a dick or anything. Like if you're going to leave the girl that you got pregnant then shouldn't you just leave the children behind also?
I've been doing construction for over 20 years and have always had work. If you're good at what you do and work hard then you will always have work in construction. There is always work in construction even in a depression. Worst case scenario is that you might have to travel a bit when it gets slow.
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Yeah ive heard the same.
Both from people in and out of construction.
People have said at times it has gotten hard but always gotten by.
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Re: My future career [Re: Enkidu]
#27067238 - 12/01/20 09:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, if you aren't in a major city than it can be a "Feast or Famine" type job for sure so it's good to save for a rainy day. I hate the union, but some people like it. If you're in union and at the bottom of the totem pole then you might have to wait a bit for work when it gets slow too.
Skilled hard workers will always have work though. I'm an electrician, but as an apprentice when things got slow I did it all and learned as I went. I did painting, building chicken coups, plumbing, insulating, fences, gardening, paving, and anything that paid the bills until electric work came my way. Now I can build a whole house without help and I pretty much did that. It's really nice to live in a house you built/remodeled yourself.
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Yeah man i honestly love learning the trades
I like learning all of it even if some of it sucks
I especially enjoy the hard shit that requires patience and skill. I enjoy the difficulty required for perfection. But i also enjoy framing and building big shit.
I recently took this job for a company specializing in kitchen and bathroom remodels which is exciting, but i might miss building big shit and framing... Be nice to be out of the fucking harsh winter though.
This might change, but right now there is a hell of a lot of opportunity out there and if youre willing to work you can.
Places cant seem to find people..
I agree with you entirely man. And its good to hear from someone who put in the work and it paid off. Im not in the union but im low on the totem and im still putting in work trying to make it.
Hopefully in time it pays off. My goal is having a place of my own and working on it myself, having the knowledge and skills.
Very rewarding.. One step closer to being self sustainable ina time when we are so dependent.
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Re: My future career [Re: Enkidu]
#27067360 - 12/01/20 10:43 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I know what it's like to start at the bottom. When I started I think I was making either $7 or $8 an hour. I worked my ass off still and worked circles around the guys making 3, 4, or more times as much and I quickly got noticed and got raises. I still was the guy to go in the attic or dig the ditch every time.
I started in Florida and sometimes had to dig 8 hours a day for days in a row and go up in attics that were 140 degrees. My dick was knocked in the dirt 3 or 4 times a week and I wanted to quit many times. I knew it would be worth it if I powered through and eventually would have my own apprentice to do the hard shit so I stuck it out.
After my 3rd year I could run jobs by myself and got my own apprentices. I was 22 or 23 years old and they were mostly in their 50's and not happy that a "kid" was telling them what to do. I actually treated them much better than I was treated, but they still weren't happy. They waster 30+ years doing dead-end jobs and were jealous that I made more and had a future and they didn't.
Eventually I became better than the guys that trained me and then became the Foreman. Not officially, but I ran the crew, they knew it and I knew it, but we tried to keep it more like a team, rather than a boss and employees. Like a little dysfunctional electrical family.
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Damn man good for you. That shit can be brutal
Im starting a bit older at almost 30
Hoping if i give it 5 years or so i can be in a decent spot
At least im a bit smarter than i was as a kid and know what i want so hopefully that plays to mt advantage a bit
Pretty sure some of the guys im going to go work under at this new gig or younger than me and more skilled
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Re: My future career [Re: Enkidu]
#27067614 - 12/02/20 06:27 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nothing wrong with trades. They can provide a solid lifestyle and income. I'm reminded of this when I pay my plumber $500 for 90 min. of work.
Especially early on, you can make a lot more money in trades vs. a lot of white collar jobs. One thing to keep in mind though is that as you age, job benefits begin to become more and more valuable. As an example, when I was 21, my buddies in trades laughed at my for making $30k/year while they made 6 figures in trades.
Now though, my job offers fantastic health insurance, which covers my entire family. My job provides retirement and investment options. They provide all sorts of social services (on site day care, free legal counsel, continuing education, group discounts for bullshit like cellular plans etc. etc.). These are all incredibly valuable, but when I was 21 and didn't need them, they seemed worthless.
Not to mention, now that I'm in my 40s, I'm so glad my body isn't torn apart by moving rocks and heavy gear all day. On the other hand, the last time I had guys working on my house, I know they weren't awake at night stressing about their early morning meeting, or checking emails late at night. There are always considerations in career choices.
Were I you, you're so close to finishing a degree, it seems foolish not to.
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Re: My future career [Re: badchad]
#27067668 - 12/02/20 07:38 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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You make solid points
Yesterday i spent a good chunk of time reorganizing all my priorities
Figuring out the schooling
I think i will aim to an minimum take 1 course a semester online
As you mentioned the benefits and things of that nature are fucking huge. And the wear and tear on your body. Though in some aspects i think this line of work can help keep you strong and in shape if you est right and take care of yourself
But again, solid points.
I am confident as things move forward i will be in good shape.
Recently quit smoking and my mind already feels much clearer and sharper.
Reorienting my priorities and goals and direction
Having children changes everything...
A young one and another on the way
Much love fellas
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