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OfflineOutsideOfMyMind
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Re: My future career [Re: Enkidu]
    #27066904 - 12/01/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Cool. This actually really helped me what you just said. Mushrooms have always been more of an emotional mind fuck for me. When it's a good trip, it's a beautiful mind fuck but when it's a bad trip, it really just throws your emotions around and fucks with your mind. This last time I experienced mild derealization where I couldn't tell what was real and what wasn't. I've never gotten that feeling from acid, I only ever experience positive emotions on acid. when I do get shown my emotions on acid it does it in a more gentle loving beautiful way compared to mushrooms whereas mushrooms show you your emotions like a cold hard slap in the face. I can take acid for fun whereas with mushrooms I can only do them for therapeutic and spiritual purposes and only if everything in my life is going perfect. The problem with this last trip was I had something on the back of my mind just an inkling and it all came to the forefront way too hard and made the trip fill of anxiety and bad feelings. This was also the first mushroom trip where my stomach felt like shit the entire time so I made myself puke which only made me feel a tiny bit better but I still had a horrible body load. Anyway I don't want to derail This thread but you can read about my trip here: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27062278/page/1

I don't know man, for me acid enhances my reality and makes me feel reality much more clearly where as mushrooms just sort of fuck with my reality and I have no clue what's real and what's not.

Also the whole frequency of the planet is really fucked up right now because of covid and the political atmosphere which has given my trips a darker mood to them.


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Re: My future career [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27067141 - 12/01/20 08:23 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Damn, interesting

Yeah man mushrooms are work sometimes but i find it has always been really rewarding to face that deep dark shit and then come out in a better place

At least for me, the high dose mushroom trip is consistent

Come up is the unsettling weirdness as the mushrooms travel my body and mind as if reading me, about an hour in they force me to face reality and my demons, eventually that breaks into a feeling of bliss and laughter, a weight is lifted and i have a clearer mind. Insight into the world and myself as well as the next course of action is revealed. And a period of meditative repose as i contemplate.

I have taken high doses many times in my most troubling periods of life.

Lsd has less frequently offered such benefecial experiences but it has given me profound and powerful experiences none the less I love lsd a lot.

Ill check out your report


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Re: My future career [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27067180 - 12/01/20 08:43 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Fuck yeah dude. Construction is where it's at.

Psychology degree was what I wasted my time on too. What can you do with a Bachelors in Psych? Nothing. Waste of time.






Truth, if you are aren't taking it to the doctorate level there is no point in a Psychology degree.



Masters at the bare minimum would be needed for any psychology degree to be useful. The most you can do with just a psychology bachelor's degree is being a manager at a retail store. Once this economic recession and depression really seriously hits, construction is not going to be big anymore. Construction is one of the first industries to go during a recession and depression.

And how do you leave a girl that you got pregnant out of state but then you want a house for your kids...that you left? I'm not against men leaving women that they got pregnant because I believe the man has a choice too and unless the woman has a goddamn ring on her finger or a fucking marriage certificate she is sort of asking for it anyway, but don't you just think that's a little bit fucked up? I'm not trying to be a dick or anything. Like if you're going to leave the girl that you got pregnant then shouldn't you just leave the children behind also?





I've been doing construction for over 20 years and have always had work. If you're good at what you do and work hard then you will always have work in construction. There is always work in construction even in a depression. Worst case scenario is that you might have to travel a bit when it gets slow.


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Re: My future career [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #27067215 - 12/01/20 09:03 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah ive heard the same.

Both from people in and out of construction.

People have said at times it has gotten hard but always gotten by.


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Re: My future career [Re: Enkidu]
    #27067238 - 12/01/20 09:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, if you aren't in a major city than it can be a "Feast or Famine" type job for sure so it's good to save for a rainy day. I hate the union, but some people like it. If you're in union and at the bottom of the totem pole then you might have to wait a bit for work when it gets slow too.

Skilled hard workers will always have work though. I'm an electrician, but as an apprentice when things got slow I did it all and learned as I went. I did painting, building chicken coups, plumbing, insulating, fences, gardening, paving, and anything that paid the bills until electric work came my way. Now I can build a whole house without help and I pretty much did that. It's really nice to live in a house you built/remodeled yourself.


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Re: My future career [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #27067275 - 12/01/20 09:30 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah man i honestly love learning the trades

I like learning all of it even if some of it sucks

I especially enjoy the hard shit that requires patience and skill. I enjoy the difficulty required for perfection. But i also enjoy framing and building big shit.

I recently took this job for a company specializing in kitchen and bathroom remodels which is exciting, but i might miss building big shit and framing... Be nice to be out of the fucking harsh winter though.

This might change, but right now there is a hell of a lot of opportunity out there and if youre willing to work you can.

Places cant seem to find people..

I agree with you entirely man. And its good to hear from someone who put in the work and it paid off. Im not in the union but im low on the totem and im still putting in work trying to make it.

Hopefully in time it pays off. My goal is having a place of my own and working on it myself, having the knowledge and skills.

Very rewarding.. One step closer to being self sustainable ina time when we are so dependent.


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Re: My future career [Re: Enkidu]
    #27067360 - 12/01/20 10:43 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I know what it's like to start at the bottom. When I started I think I was making either $7 or $8 an hour. I worked my ass off still and worked circles around the guys making 3, 4, or more times as much and I quickly got noticed and got raises. I still was the guy to go in the attic or dig the ditch every time.

I started in Florida and sometimes had to dig 8 hours a day for days in a row and go up in attics that were 140 degrees. My dick was knocked in the dirt 3 or 4 times a week and I wanted to quit many times. I knew it would be worth it if I powered through and eventually would have my own apprentice to do the hard shit so I stuck it out.

After my 3rd year I could run jobs by myself and got my own apprentices. I was 22 or 23 years old and they were mostly in their 50's and not happy that a "kid" was telling them what to do. I actually treated them much better than I was treated, but they still weren't happy. They waster 30+ years doing dead-end jobs and were jealous that I made more and had a future and they didn't.

Eventually I became better than the guys that trained me and then became the Foreman. Not officially, but I ran the crew, they knew it and I knew it, but we tried to keep it more like a team, rather than a boss and employees. Like a little dysfunctional electrical family.


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Re: My future career [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #27067534 - 12/02/20 04:13 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Damn man good for you. That shit can be brutal

Im starting a bit older at almost 30

Hoping if i give it 5 years or so i can be in a decent spot

At least im a bit smarter than i was as a kid and know what i want so hopefully that plays to mt advantage a bit

Pretty sure some of the guys im going to go work under at this new gig or younger than me and more skilled


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Re: My future career [Re: Enkidu]
    #27067614 - 12/02/20 06:27 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Nothing wrong with trades.  They can provide a solid lifestyle and income.  I'm reminded of this when I pay my plumber $500 for 90 min. of work.

Especially early on, you can make a lot more money in trades vs. a lot of white collar jobs.  One thing to keep in mind though is that as you age, job benefits begin to become more and more valuable.  As an example, when I was 21, my buddies in trades laughed at my for making $30k/year while they made 6 figures in trades. 

Now though, my job offers fantastic health insurance, which covers my entire family.  My job provides retirement and investment options.  They provide all sorts of social services (on site day care, free legal counsel, continuing education, group discounts for bullshit like cellular plans etc. etc.).  These are all incredibly valuable, but when I was 21 and didn't need them, they seemed worthless.

Not to mention, now that I'm in my 40s, I'm so glad my body isn't torn apart by moving rocks and heavy gear all day.  On the other hand, the last time I had guys working on my house, I know they weren't awake at night stressing about their early morning meeting, or checking emails late at night.  There are always considerations in career choices.

Were I you, you're so close to finishing a degree, it seems foolish not to.


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


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Re: My future career [Re: badchad]
    #27067668 - 12/02/20 07:38 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

You make solid points

Yesterday i spent a good chunk of time reorganizing all my priorities

Figuring out the schooling

I think i will aim to an minimum take 1 course a semester online

As you mentioned the benefits and things of that nature are fucking huge. And the wear and tear on your body. Though in some aspects i think this line of work can help keep you strong and in shape if you est right and take care of yourself

But again, solid points.

I am confident as things move forward i will be in good shape.

Recently quit smoking and my mind already feels much clearer and sharper.

Reorienting my priorities and goals and direction

Having children changes everything...

A young one and another on the way

Much love fellas :heart:


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