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Extending the life of ultrasonic discs and critique my gh plan
    #27064942 - 11/30/20 04:03 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I think I’ve decided on ultrasonic for my grow tent, haven’t decided on a humidibucket tek to follow yet  though.

I was planning on getting a under sink RO system to help extend the life of the discs but I’d like to know if there’s anything else I can do to keep them from burning out prematurely.

Thought about doing a pressure washer system like shroomsisay has but I think the droplets might be too large for a circulation fan to evenly distribute the humidity.

This is roughly the layout I was planning on copying. I’d use a 6 tier shelf system and make a diy gable roof out of pvc. The shelves will be wrapped in poly sheeting and I’ll build a door frame with gasket the size of the wide side for harvesting.


If anyone sees any potential flaws in that plan I’d appreciate any input :grin:


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Re: Extending the life of ultrasonic discs and critique my gh plan [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #27065188 - 11/30/20 06:34 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I'd recommend reversing your humidity to the top and the sensor to be placed by your exhaust near the bottom. 
Ideally you'd want your fresh air mixed as close to your humidity inlet to disperse the moisture more evenly, but regardless the moist air will be heavier than the dry/ambient air so pumping it in at the top and circulating is your best bet for consistent moisture throughout.
Humidity inlet on top,exhaust on bottom.

As far as extending the life of the discs, I use tap water in my setup, R.O. would certainly be a nice upgrade, but I've recently started using CLR mold&mildew cleaner twice a month to clean my system spotless of scum and hard water stains. It's made it MUCH easier, maybe someone else can chime in on the longevity of using CLR ...as I got the idea from someone on here,just can't recall who.


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Re: Extending the life of ultrasonic discs and critique my gh plan [Re: Harry Manbach]
    #27065352 - 11/30/20 07:59 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

My water is pretty hard so I don’t really have a choice lol. How long have you been running your discs?


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Re: Extending the life of ultrasonic discs and critique my gh plan [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #27065397 - 11/30/20 08:31 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Yeetusdeetus said:
My water is pretty hard so I don’t really have a choice lol. How long have you been running your discs?




Not-so-clean tap here myself, unfortunately when I look at the "to do list" for my operation, a spare set of discs were cheaper than a R.O. System, otherwise it's certainly an upgrade I'd like to make..for the whole house!

Exact time..idk without doing the math..and I'm headed to bed. (My humidity is on a cyclical timer,that gets tweaked slightly as needed) .. A few months tho since this that upgrade.  I'm hoping the good soul that posted about CLR cleaner will see this and chime in tho..
I believe they had stated running the same discs for 2 years..I THINK..  However,it was an "aha/no shit" moment when I did come across that post, especially when I found CLR-mold & mildew. Makes cleaning a breeze!


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Re: Extending the life of ultrasonic discs and critique my gh plan [Re: Harry Manbach]
    #27065490 - 11/30/20 09:24 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah whole house systems can get pretty ‘spensive :lol:. I can’t have it hooked up to my hose faucet over the winter anyways though. Can’t remember why specifically, just remember being told it’d be expensive to fix if it froze with it hooked up.

I was planning on just filling up a 55 gallon plastic drum with the sink water and sit it above the fogger. I figure that’s about as low tech I can get with it without directly misting every couple minutes lol.

2 years is pretty good compared to a lot of the experiences I’ve read about. I guess people are probably a lot more likely to leave a bad review if something doesn’t work than a good one if it does :shrug:


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Re: Extending the life of ultrasonic discs and critique my gh plan [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #27065635 - 11/30/20 11:53 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I used reverse osmosis water and I went through two house of hydro pond foggers in 6 months at $300 each. That is why I built my system the pond foggers are unreliable and do not last long. Don't get me wrong the choice is yours. As long as you do not have the nozzles less than 6 inches away from your bags nothing will get wet with my system and it creates a fog that will most defiantly be easily pushed by the air from any fan. My system creates a dry fog as you can see in the pic...



I use a .004/.1mm nozzle and as you can see in this pic a .006/.15mm nozzle is around 12.2 u...



My system has been running for almost 3 years and I have not had to clean it once.

You have to ask yourself why commercial growers use high-pressure systems for humidification? They use high pressure because they are the best and with my system now they are affordable for everyone.

I would not trade my system for 10 house of hydro foggers. My kit comes with everything needed except the filter and the pressure washer. I have recently spent a lot of money buying parts for this system they actually came in today. If this system was not kick-ass I would not have invested the money.


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Re: Extending the life of ultrasonic discs and critique my gh plan [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #27065651 - 12/01/20 12:12 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I forgot to mention the system comes on for about 10 seconds every 10 minutes and that is with my exhaust fan on 24/7 which is needed for oysters. My room size is 10' x 4'. My mushrooms are much happier with my high-pressure system than they ever were with the pond foggers. A video will be coming soon of the system and how it works.


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Re: Extending the life of ultrasonic discs and critique my gh plan [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #27066110 - 12/01/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I’d need to expand the chamber somehow to get the nozzles far enough away. You think I could just add another set of shelves, wrap the whole thing in poly, and suspend the nozzles between them?

I also feel kinda nervous tying anything into my plumbing. If there’s a way to mess it up, I know I’ll do it :lol:. If I could just have a barrel of water feeding into the pressure washer I’d feel more comfortable with it but I thought more water pressure was optimal


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Re: Extending the life of ultrasonic discs and critique my gh plan [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #27066409 - 12/01/20 01:48 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Take A pic of your setup. How big is your room?


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Re: Extending the life of ultrasonic discs and critique my gh plan [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #27066492 - 12/01/20 02:33 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

The shelves are 4ftx1.5ft and about 6ft tall. Theres about 6 feet of covered porch on the lower level and I wouldn’t have a problem putting it out there since there’s a deck above it but I figured winter would make it hard to keep humidity up without real insulation.

I’d put it in the garage if I could just use one shelf but two would be pretty crowded. Honestly I’d prefer the two shelf setup but I’m not sure how I’d get the bottom sealed with poly and still be able to walk in. 

Casters would be out if the question I imagine. Sucks cause that’s the main reason I wanted to use these particular shelves :lol:


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Re: Extending the life of ultrasonic discs and critique my gh plan [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #27066652 - 12/01/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I have similar shelves and with all the humidity they rust up then the wheels don't spin anymore at least that is my experience. How big is the space/room? If it is not big you can just put the misters on the other side of the shelf where you walk. The pressure washer may run a few seconds longer but like I said mine only runs for 10 seconds when it comes on.

I would worry more about it being too cold on the porch because the system will keep it humidified. I will be testing a system I just built for someone so I will get some video to show you.


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Re: Extending the life of ultrasonic discs and critique my gh plan [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #27066674 - 12/01/20 04:19 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Damn I thought these would be the go to for small farms. I’ve seen Myers and Southwest use similar ones but I’m not sure if they commented on rust being an issue or not

I’m out right now but when I get back in a couple hours I’ll try to remember to measure the room and draw up some kind of diagram to help you get a better idea of the space I’m working with


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Re: Extending the life of ultrasonic discs and critique my gh plan [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #27066724 - 12/01/20 04:43 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I am guessing the shelves are 18" from back to front.


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Re: Extending the life of ultrasonic discs and critique my gh plan [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #27066745 - 12/01/20 04:58 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yup 48x18x72 lxwxh


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Re: Extending the life of ultrasonic discs and critique my gh plan [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #27069748 - 12/03/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)



The first image is the setup I’d rather do with two shelves on the porch but lacking real insulation it might be hard to maintain enough humidity.

The second is the setup I could fit into the garage without obstructing too much. I could try the two shelf setup in the garage but the floor is slanted around 3 feet in from the side to help with drainage and I don’t know if the shelves not being level would cause problems

I know with the two shelf system I’d have to fix the nozzles to the pvc gable to give enough space between the nozzles and mushrooms. Do you think I’d need to add extra flappers on opposite sides to allow for easier distribution of fresh air? Or would running the outlet fan for a little longer suffice?


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Re: Extending the life of ultrasonic discs and critique my gh plan [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #27070226 - 12/03/20 03:24 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I can't see the whole pic. I am not sure if you got more going on on the right side of the pic.

Could you please give me the size of the room LxWxH In the 1st pick I can only see that it is 8' wide.

And I can't tell what the size of the wall-mounted shelves are.

In either of those rooms, I think you would need two 12 disc ultrasonic foggers and they did not last very long for me. But that is just my experience. My room is 10x4x7 The house of hydro 9 disk foggers worked ok for me at first but after a month the fog production cut down to where it was not enough and died after 3 months. My room is half the size of the room you have so by my experience you will need two 12 disk foggers.


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Re: Extending the life of ultrasonic discs and critique my gh plan [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #27070361 - 12/03/20 04:55 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Your 1st pic doesn't make sense to me. If your shelves are 48" then you would only have 12 inches to get by the shelves on the ends. Maybe I am missing something here. But 12" won't be enough to move in that room...

In the pic, you have to move the decimal point to the right one place I had to scale the picture so you could see it.




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Re: Extending the life of ultrasonic discs and critique my gh plan [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #27070379 - 12/03/20 05:03 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Oh no the 8 feet in the first picture is just referring to the porch that it’d be sitting on haha. The fruiting chamber with the two shelves would just be the two shelves with a three foot gap in between for harvesting.

The second picture is just a general layout of the left side of the garage where the window is. I put the red line to show where I’d prefer to keep the fruiting chamber confined to. There are wall mounted shelves in the garage so I just drew them in for a reference point.

I’m dont know how to resize the picture but I think I’m just gonna put it on the porch so I don’t have to worry about fitting everything else in around it.

the shelves are 18In wide 48in long and there’s a three foot walkway between the two


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Re: Extending the life of ultrasonic discs and critique my gh plan [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #27070408 - 12/03/20 05:27 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I would design the room like this...



Then have two rows of misters going down the center of the room.


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Re: Extending the life of ultrasonic discs and critique my gh plan [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #27070414 - 12/03/20 05:32 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

sorry I posted that before I read your last post.


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