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OfflineCracked Egg
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Car batteries...
    #27064719 - 11/30/20 02:02 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I'm trying to decide if I need a new battery or if I need to get it charged fully.

Lights work. Radio works, windows work. The car wont turn over..

So. I . Jumped. It!

The car started up almost instantly so I drove it around a bit, came back, parked it, and killed it.

Seconds later I tried starting it up again and got nothing but some lousy lights and the crappy radio.

Frustrated and a bit buzzed, I grabbed my handy dandy multi meter and checked my posts.

11.2 with the battery off... I know I need more of a 12.whatever the fuck so 11 is bad.

What I'm wondering is if a jump and a long sit would help or should I take it in and let it sit over night or do I need a new battery?

I'm hopin' for door number 1...


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Re: Car batteries... [Re: Cracked Egg]
    #27064724 - 11/30/20 02:05 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I had car battery issues recently and decided to buy an actual charger instead of just jumping mine. I jumped it a couple times but it would always get to a point where the engine wouldn't turn over after a couple days of use. I charged it to full and haven't had any issues since. This was 2 weeks ago.

YMMV but, maybe worth buying a $25 - $30 charger :shrug:

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Sounds like maybe your jumper is also a charger, if thats the case definitely try charging that thing to full.


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Re: Car batteries... [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #27064813 - 11/30/20 02:48 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

when you jump it, make sure you drive for a decent chunk of time (hit the freeway for 40 mins or something)

if you have to jump it even after charging it, you probably need a new battery. places like autozone will do free battery testing. just bring it in, and they will tell you if its good or not


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Re: Car batteries... [Re: Big_Dub] * 1
    #27064824 - 11/30/20 02:53 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds like a bad alternated to me.


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Re: Car batteries... [Re: Chakatron]
    #27064826 - 11/30/20 02:55 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

^maybe.... id check the battery first, cuz thats easier and cheaper. then move on to see if its the alternator


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Re: Car batteries... [Re: Big_Dub] * 1
    #27064836 - 11/30/20 03:03 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Go to autozone or whatever and have then run a battery and alternator test. If u can start it and run it for a while on a charged battery its a bad alternator as your alternator isn't charging the battery to replace the charge lost running the car. If u cant get it started on a jump its likely a bad starter. If it's like clicking and shit could be ur connections or bad battery. Just go get it tested they give u a print off that tells u exactly whats wrong.


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Re: Car batteries... [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #27064842 - 11/30/20 03:06 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

That all sound like a lot of work, might want to just buy a new car OP


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Re: Car batteries... [Re: feevers]
    #27064844 - 11/30/20 03:08 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Its lit like the simplest thing u could have go wrong with ur car and its super common if you dont have a brand new car. A simple do it urself repair on most vehicles. Its also getting cold out and thats when ull notice your battery isn't what it used to be.


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Re: Car batteries... [Re: Cracked Egg]
    #27064854 - 11/30/20 03:15 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

First check and clean connections especially at the battery, rarely at alternator. You describe the classic corroded battery terminal problem.

''I know I need more of a 12.whatever the fuck so 11 is bad.''
You really need closer to 14 than 12.

If cleaning terminals doesn't get it, either the alternator or battery has an issue. Getting the battery tested is easiest.
Most Autozone type places can test it in the parking lot if they're not busy. Otherwise pull it in the parking lot if it tests bad replace it while you're there. Be prepared to wait or have a ride.

If the battery tests good, it's the alternator.

They say you must drive a car 15 minutes at over 30 mph just to recharge what it used to start it. To recharge a low battery it's like  an hour on the highway to get it fully charged.

A corroded battery cable with a weak connection can quickly burn up an alternator or battery or both.

If your headlights don't seem bright, it's probably the alternator.


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Re: Car batteries... [Re: Cracked Egg]
    #27064893 - 11/30/20 03:42 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Almost all (maybe all) batteries have a date of manufacture and a rated longevity printed on the battery somewhere. Check to see how old your battery is and how long it is expected to last. If it is getting close to the end of its anticipated serviceable life go grab another one at Costco.

Also, this is the time of the year that batteries fail if you are living in a region that is getting into late fall/early winter. It would be a coincidence if your alternator failed right at the time of year that the cold is stressing your old/dead battery.


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Re: Car batteries... [Re: pslyke]
    #27064947 - 11/30/20 04:04 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Heat actually kills batteries, cold just reduced cold crank voltage.  End result can be the smae, a car that won't start.


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Re: Car batteries... [Re: Ice9]
    #27064997 - 11/30/20 04:41 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Hmm.. well... Let me start off by saying if the antichrist needed a vehicle it would be a dodge..

Why? Why would I need to remove a tire just to get to the battery?

I'll pull it tomorrow and get it tested. I'm hoping an overnight charge will do the trick because I really don't feel like changing out an alternator. 10.00 says I'll have to drop the transmission just to get to the alternator.

Thanks for all the replies.. I honestly didn't think I'd get any..


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Re: Car batteries... [Re: Cracked Egg]
    #27065031 - 11/30/20 05:00 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Do the battery before the alternator.

No need for changing shit just for changing shit. If the alternator is bad you'll know for sure after the new battery.


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Re: Car batteries... [Re: christopera]
    #27065052 - 11/30/20 05:10 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Check the basics as suggested:
-Bad corrosion on terminals or faulty wiring (clean/fix if needed)
-Alternator issue (Multimeter should show 13V+ when car is running)

Otherwise seems like maybe straight-forward junk battery?
-Again check the date of manufacture as suggested

A battery may run lights+radio but under real load like cranking the engine, that's when it counts, and dying batteries do not have the CCA (cold cranking amps) to turn the engine correctly any longer.

You want to have a good reliable battery for peace of mind and so on, as what use is the vehicle if you can not start it when desired, and how willing are you to spend time fiddling with jump-starting the car.. Go with a good brand, reliable battery with warranty.


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Re: Car batteries... [Re: ch0ppie]
    #27065433 - 11/30/20 08:49 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Battery is probably done. 11v for a 12v battery is straight dead.

12.7 at rest is a fully charged LAB. Car running should read 13 or so.

Take it out, take it to autozone and they'll test it for free. If it's bad, use it
as a core exchange and get a new battery.


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Re: Car batteries... [Re: Cracked Egg]
    #27065481 - 11/30/20 09:18 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Cracked Egg said:
I'm trying to decide if I need a new battery or if I need to get it charged fully.

Lights work. Radio works, windows work. The car wont turn over..

So. I . Jumped. It!

The car started up almost instantly so I drove it around a bit, came back, parked it, and killed it.

Seconds later I tried starting it up again and got nothing but some lousy lights and the crappy radio.

Frustrated and a bit buzzed, I grabbed my handy dandy multi meter and checked my posts.

11.2 with the battery off... I know I need more of a 12.whatever the fuck so 11 is bad.

What I'm wondering is if a jump and a long sit would help or should I take it in and let it sit over night or do I need a new battery?

I'm hopin' for door number 1...




Wow man this is nuts.

I was literally at the mehanic today for this exact problem. Here is what happened to me:

-my alternator was broke and it killed my battery
- i needed a new battey and alternator
- cost me $650 CAD

It sounds like the exact same thing that happened to me.

Replace yur battery, if you arent at the right wattage when u check it then you need a new alternator. My suggested wattage is 80w and before they fixed the alternator it was pumping 40w. They told me the car would still run for a couplr weeks but if i didnt change the alternator my new battery would die very soon.

Its a hard bullet to bite and set me back a ways but just get it fixed and you will be on the road again.

I truly sympathize with your situation, sucks man...


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Re: Car batteries... [Re: longbus]
    #27065485 - 11/30/20 09:21 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I should add:

- i decided to take my car in because my car woul start with a boost but as soon as i shut it off it wouldnt atary again.
- the audible sensor that tells you that yur light is left on when yu turn your car off stopped workimg so i killed my batery several times before this.
-it seemed that each time i boosted it, it took longer to charge.

Either you need a new batery, or a new alternator, or both. Shitty buzz dude.


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Re: Car batteries... [Re: longbus]
    #27065745 - 12/01/20 03:46 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

When I needed a new battery my car would not do anything when I turned the key. No lights no noise no nothing. Other than a window not rolling back up there were no signs that the battery was dying. I was stranded in a parking lot and had to call towing.

How long have you had your current battery? They usually need to be changed every 5 years.


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Re: Car batteries... [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27069373 - 12/03/20 06:48 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Last night I was able to jump it, but had to be somewhere so I pulled it all the way up and let it sit for awhile. It prob sat running for a good hour while I was gone. Once I got back, I killed the ignition, let it sit for a minute (like last time) and cranked it. Started up!

Cool.

Went about my biz nas, my biz nas. Stay the fuck out my biz nas! Cause it's mine I'm mine.

Heh heh... Ludacris was and will always be dope.

But, yeah. It started up last night no problem. This morning will be the ultimate test though. Here in a bit I'm going to head out in the blistering cold and try and start it up after it's been sitting all night.

I still kinda wanna get it checked at O'Riley's.


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Re: Car batteries... [Re: Cracked Egg]
    #27069445 - 12/03/20 07:47 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Here’s my recent battery woes. My wife’s car was acting a little funky, but she was still able to run around town. Occasionally the radio would turn off momentarily, otherwise everything seemed okay. I figured it was an issue with the radio wiring. This went on for about a week. Then one day the car wouldn’t start. So I charged the battery, tested it, everything seemed fine. She drove around for another week. Then one day she’s at the gas station and the car wouldn’t start again. She gets a jump and managed to get home. So I pulled the battery and took it in. It was still under warranty so I got a free one. The car has been running fine ever since.

Long story short, batteries do some funny things some times. The symptoms aren’t always the same or necessarily consistent.


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