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Windpower69
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ID Request: Azurescens, Galerina, and Random PNW 1
#27062214 - 11/28/20 09:47 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Habitat: PNW near the mouth of the Columbia River. Found near the edge of the forest growing off grass and fallen logs. Gills: Top 4 = Brown turned to Purple. Big batch = Brown / Tan. Small batch = Brown and White.
Stem: Top 4 = 40 - 85mm long, 2 - 5 mm diameter, Off-white Straw color, solid. Big batch = 30 - 70mm long, 1 - 6mm diameter, mostly white, mostly solid. Small batch = 30 -90mm long, 2 - 10mm diameter, mostly white, mostly solid.
Cap: Top 4 = 20 - 45 mm wide, dark brown / caramel, conical, convex Big batch = 10 - 65 mm wide, tan to dark brown, conical, convex Small batch = 10 - 60 mm wide, tan to caramel, conical, convex
Spore print color: Top 4 = purplish/brown. Big batch = brown/rusty-brown. Small batch = black, brown, and white.
Bruising: No noticeable bruising on any. The top 4 display a discoloration in the stem after a couple days and one of the caps has a dark spot in the middle of a circle that shows tanning. Similar to a blueberry pancake.

I was hoping to learn that the top 4 are indeed Azurescens and the rest are poisonous. This would allow my time to have been well spent, not only for finding a possible treasure, but for saving poor little squirrels that may have accidentally eaten all the poisonous ones I've removed from their backyard.
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Random_Hunter
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Re: ID Request: Azurescens, Galerina, and Random PNW [Re: Windpower69]
#27062302 - 11/28/20 11:52 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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First 4 look like azures to me. Just me, but I wouldn't keep them if you can look again, too far gone. There was plenty of new growth when I went out in the area a few days ago.
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MrAnswerSeeker
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Re: ID Request: Azurescens, Galerina, and Random PNW [Re: Windpower69]
#27062447 - 11/29/20 06:17 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nice id request, welcome to the boards!
You were mushroom hunting, your time was well spent whether you found what you are looking for or not!
I wouldn't say those aren't azzies, but def wait for TI (Trusted Identifier) to reply.
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Windpower69 said:
I was hoping to learn that the top 4 are indeed Azurescens and the rest are poisonous. This would allow my time to have been well spent, not only for finding a possible treasure, but for saving poor little squirrels that may have accidentally eaten all the poisonous ones I've removed from their backyard.
Squirrels aren't humans, they know what is or isn't edible (for them) far better than we do, not to mention they can eat many "poisonous" (to us) mushrooms. I appreciate you caring about them, but the "poor little squirrels" are likely very good at not eating something they shouldn't.
Good luck on your future walkabouts and happy hunting!
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Doc9151
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Re: ID Request: Azurescens, Galerina, and Random PNW [Re: MrAnswerSeeker]
#27062877 - 11/29/20 11:31 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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#1 I think these may be Psilocybe cyanescens and not azurescens. it would have been helpful to see an in situ photo.
#2 Galeria
#3 mixed collection of Galerina, Leratiomyces ceres and something else.
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  Psilocybe cubensis data collection thread. please help with this project if you hunt wild cubensis. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=26513593&page=0&vc=1#26513593
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HSapiensAmericanus
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Re: ID Request: Azurescens, Galerina, and Random PNW [Re: Doc9151]
#27062982 - 11/29/20 12:58 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is the middle one in the 3rd pick a green spore print or just the lighting? I’ve never come across a green spored mushroom that’s not a Lepiota. Looks like same varnished looking cap and the stem coloring of some Chroogomphus but hard to tell without seeing a profile shot. Definitely an oddball.
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Doc9151
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Green spored lepiota is Chlorophyllum molybdites
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  Psilocybe cubensis data collection thread. please help with this project if you hunt wild cubensis. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=26513593&page=0&vc=1#26513593
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Windpower69
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Re: ID Request: Azurescens, Galerina, and Random PNW [Re: Doc9151]
#27063813 - 11/29/20 11:23 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thank you very much for all the responses and welcome! I was up in the PNW for three days, and for the first two days I was taking pictures of everything and picking all the "caramel" colored caps to check their stems. Sadly my concept of caramel is a "Werther's Original":

which was not exactly the color I was looking for. Rather, the color I believe I should have been looking for is:

I must've picked hundreds of mushrooms before learning which ones I needn't bother to waste energy on. On the last day I stumbled upon the 4 I had hoped were Azurescens, but had become lazy in snapping pictures since I had discarded all previous pickings. Sorry for the lack of location, but I understand more fully its importance for the diet of the mushroom.
Only after appearing lost by a sign far away from where I could possibly find an Azurescens, another hunter jokingly yelled over to me if I had found any yet. After a brief discussion, he informed me of my ill-researched searching locations and gave me a much better insight on where to look. I also saw a small collection he had in a box, which he suggested I acquire a box post-haste as mushrooms will be squished in a bag (I was very ill-prepared, which is why the top 4 may look like they have wavy caps because they were squished in a bag).
I still ended up picking all of the Galerina after seeing the Azurescens and being able to compare it to some I had supposedly found. I see now they are completely different, but was fooled by their appearance.
You live and learn. Hopefully I will find (or create after ridiculous research) a TEK to use whatever spores from the 4 purple brown spore prints I have to determine more exactly its genus/species/strain (or whatever scientific term is escaping me). Perhaps a TEK to clone some tissue, but I'll research those on other boards.
Here is a side image and a close-up of the one mentioned that I believe had the green spore print:


Here is a side image of one of the 4 from the top "connected":

(p.s. The squirrels are the ones planting the poisonous mushrooms to cull the weak. I'd steer clear of them both. The squirrels are enraged by sarcasm and over-salted peanuts, and the poisonous mushrooms will kill you.)
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HSapiensAmericanus
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Re: ID Request: Azurescens, Galerina, and Random PNW [Re: Windpower69]
#27064104 - 11/30/20 07:53 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Chroogomphus tomentosus maybe.
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Sk8nshram
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That last picture you posted is certainly Psilocybe azurescens.
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