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Ready to induce pinning?
    #27064138 - 11/30/20 08:17 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Common question, I know, but I have my first 4 shoeboxes colonizing, and this one is the furthest along:



Should I let it consolidate a bit more, or go ahead and induce pinning with increased FAE/humidity/temp drop?


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Re: Ready to induce pinning? [Re: madyogi]
    #27064147 - 11/30/20 08:21 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Nowadays everybody seems to put in fruiting conditions right away after spawning

Dont know your set up, but shoeboxes already have the necessary conditions for fruiting. Just let them be with 12/12 light cycle


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Re: Ready to induce pinning? [Re: Sankhara]
    #27064210 - 11/30/20 09:06 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Okay, cool.  Yes, I've seen the discussions about fruiting conditions vs spawning conditions.  People seem to indicate these are basically the same, or that spawning conditions == stalling conditions.  That makes sense to a certain degree.  If this is really the case, is the idea of "inducing pinning" now defunct?

I have a martha tent where I'm fruiting my other containers now, so I'll move this cake into the tent and keep an eye on surface conditions.

I'm excited to watch these fruit!


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Re: Ready to induce pinning? [Re: madyogi]
    #27064226 - 11/30/20 09:22 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I must point out that trusted cultivators here do so, they have MANY years of experience and some are even mycologists. Not only doest it make sense but it is what is done by default.

Fruiting/pinning will only happen after full colonization of the substrate, so potting in fruiting conditions wont lead to stalling unless your spawn was dirty and contaminations proliferate.

You do you, but spawining with fruiting conditions is what is done by default by most


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Re: Ready to induce pinning? [Re: Sankhara]
    #27064246 - 11/30/20 09:40 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Right.  We're in agreement.

My understanding is that current methodology says what used to be considered "spawning conditions" basically equal "stalling conditions".  Since I use a martha tent for fruiting, I let my shoeboxes colonize outside the tent to preserve space inside for active fruiting.  They are still technically in fruiting conditions, though, since there is some FAE (loose lids) and some light 12/12 (they are inside the larger closet that houses my tent).

I guess my question now would be, Do people still change things up at all to "induce pinning"?  In a sense, removing the top completely from my shoeboxes and putting them into the tent once mostly colonized should induce pinning, since FAE is increased, the temp is a bit lower in the tent than in the closet as a whole, there is more light inside the tent, and the rH is maintained better in there.

We'll see how it goes.


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Re: Ready to induce pinning? [Re: madyogi]
    #27064328 - 11/30/20 10:36 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Shoeboxes already have sufficient FAE to pin without even removing the top.

Unmodified Shoeboxes are the new fruiting chamber.

Temperature and light are irrelevant for pinning.

Whether you leave them in the shoebox with light exposure or put them in the martha they will pin and fruit either way


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Re: Ready to induce pinning? [Re: Sankhara]
    #27064432 - 11/30/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Sankhara said:
Shoeboxes already have sufficient FAE to pin without even removing the top.

Unmodified Shoeboxes are the new fruiting chamber.

Temperature and light are irrelevant for pinning.

Whether you leave them in the shoebox with light exposure or put them in the martha they will pin and fruit either way




Cool.  Thanks for the info!  There's so much to digest on so many threads around here, it's tough to find the latest consensus, but I feel like I'm getting there.  Of course, results will speak for themselves.

This shoebox is now in the martha.  The rest will be soon to follow.

I'm honestly hoping to take the cakes out of the shoeboxes once they're mostly colonized and leave them in the martha to fruit on/in their liners.  This should allow me to use the same set of 6 shoeboxes to start another round of substrate colonization while these fruit, and so on and so on.

I'm basically a noob, only built my tent over the summer, so I'm like 3-4 months into this.  Things are pretty dialed in, but still much to learn.

Thanks again!


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Re: Ready to induce pinning? [Re: madyogi]
    #27064440 - 11/30/20 11:42 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I'd recommend you check the "getting started" section in forum index.

There are 5 sticky threads with the most up to date information, teks, etc.

Good luck!


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