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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: bodhisatta]
#27061864 - 11/28/20 04:22 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: What a bunch of loser bystanders holy fuck.
you don't expect much from wallmart, but it would be nice to see someone club him over the back of the head with something. Then of course they would be arrested and he would go free of charges because 'justice'
seriously though a bit of brain damage would do him good
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Ezuma]
#27062075 - 11/28/20 07:12 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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seriously though a bit of brain damage would do him good
Seems like he already has more than enough...
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: pslyke]
#27062152 - 11/28/20 08:38 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Who doesn’t want to beat up the handicapped greeters at Walmart, tho?
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
#27062178 - 11/28/20 09:04 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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one of my managers, the youngest one (he's like 20), got in a fight with a customer over mask wearing yesterday, apparently. didn't hear much about it, other than he wound up wrestling the guy to the ground, and he didn't look beat up, so i guess he won.
needless to say, he was very annoyed, and we are not getting paid enough for this shit. (state minimum wage). i mean, we never were getting paid nearly enough to begin with, but now the hazards of customer service are blatantly obvious - we have to deal with karens and chads every day, and they literally have the minds of -4 year olds.
oh, and even when they do wear masks, it's literally rage inducing type masks. trump 2020 masks despite the race being over, "this mask does nothing" masks and the like, "don't tread on me masks", and thin blue line masks. and you still have to deal with them politely.
i swear to all the gods in the multiverse, if the minimum rage isn't at least doubled soon, your local cashiers are soon going to be clocking in then punching out - punching out the lights of your local customers who piss them off with improper mask use or rage inducing masks.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Psion]
#27062208 - 11/28/20 09:40 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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sounds like a place I would want to leave
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: morrowasted]
#27062532 - 11/29/20 07:48 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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https://www.royalcaribbean.com/faq/questions/when-will-cruises-resume-operations#:~:text=Our%20plan%20is%20to%20resume,complete%20list%20of%20cancelled%20sailings.
Imagine what they will have to do to resume cruise operations again. Covid test to get onboard. Signed waiver that says you accept that you have to stay on the ship if for any reason whatsoever one passenger gets covid the entire ship could be quarantined. Lol what nightmare that industry is going to be for years to come. Now that they are releasing vaccines that are 95% effective people think the world will just resume and go back to normal. They will need a 99.99% effective vaccine for the world to resume regular pre covid operational status. No way will crowds of tens of thousands of people flock to concerts or cruise ships if they have to sign a waiver that pretty much says "this company is not responsible for the likeliness that vaccines won't do shit and you will probably die if you attend a crowded concert or cruise ship and the government sure as fuck ain't responsible either The President and President Elect are battling out in court who the fuck will sit in the White House next year so good luck having fun and not getting sick ok give us your money now" no fucking way
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: imachavel]
#27062549 - 11/29/20 08:03 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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95% effective is more effective than most vaccines that were called extremely effective. 95% is well more than good enough
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: bodhisatta]
#27062828 - 11/29/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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another whole family unit i know has gotten covid
some are sick, some aren't sick (yet), so far nobody hospitalized
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: morrowasted] 8
#27062846 - 11/29/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: morrowasted] 2
#27062987 - 11/29/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I was thinking about that yesterday while driving. So many employers (particularly in the service industry) look the other way when an employee is throwing up or with diarrhea; that it's not gonna be any different with covid.
Federal and state guidelines are, I quote, "just suggestions" to some employees and employers. I get it though, need the workers to make the money and workers need that money. It's hard to find these so called, "essential", workers for that small amount of pay to labor ratio. Also, if the customer is healthy enough to spend money then the end justifies the means when it comes to saving the economy.
Don't forget the news says for us to spend our saved money on shopping this month!! So get at it like next year isn't gonna be as bad if not worse on peoples finances. I am glad they are so down to earth and concerned about our safety that they encourage us to frivolously spend our nest eggs that are keeping us afloat during this shit show.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: R.I.P.Zappa] 1
#27063091 - 11/29/20 02:13 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looking good on the vaccine front. Highly effective vaccines with immunity that may last decades. Apparently people who had SARS 17 years ago still have detectable antibodies. Antivaxxers will soon become the scourge of humanity. They already are, but they need to be destroyed as a movement. Stupid fucking people shouldn’t be allowed to make these decisions.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
#27063168 - 11/29/20 02:54 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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30% dont keep the antibody but it should be relatively herd-able, if everyone takes it.... which you cant force
i think we will have to deal with this for a long time in new mutations, due to that, and how fast it breaks out
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
#27063285 - 11/29/20 04:03 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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It will be mandatory for a lot of jobs, and to attend college and university
We just need to make it difficult for these morons to participate in society.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
#27063557 - 11/29/20 06:47 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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If the vaccine works well enough, I have no problem letting idiots get immunity the hard way.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#27063655 - 11/29/20 07:54 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: If the vaccine works well enough, I have no problem letting idiots get immunity the hard way.
Quite an unacceptable situation for those that can't take the vaccine because they are allergic to one of its components, are immunocompromised, or for some other legit medical reason can't take it. People that make the choice to not get vaccinated should not be endangering those that can't take it.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: pslyke]
#27063807 - 11/29/20 11:09 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: If the vaccine works well enough, I have no problem letting idiots get immunity the hard way.
Quite an unacceptable situation for those that can't take the vaccine because they are allergic to one of its components, are immunocompromised, or for some other legit medical reason can't take it. People that make the choice to not get vaccinated should not be endangering those that can't take it.
Well, there's at least a third of the population who will not take the vaccine no matter what. What do you propose we do about them?
Or is +/- 66% enough?
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#27064032 - 11/30/20 06:18 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/12/12/3642/htm
Vitamin D Insufficiency May Account for Almost Nine of Ten COVID-19 Deaths: Time to Act. Comment on: “Vitamin D Deficiency and Outcome of COVID-19 Patients”. Nutrients 2020, 12, 2757
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Although results of an observational study, such as this one, need to be interpreted with caution, as done by the authors [1], due to the potential of residual confounding or reverse causality (i.e., vitamin D insufficiency resulting from poor health status at baseline rather than vice versa), it appears extremely unlikely that such a strong association in this prospective cohort study could be explained this way, in particular as the authors had adjusted for age, sex and comorbidity as potential confounders in their multivariate analysis. There are also multiple plausible mechanisms that may well explain the observed associations, such as increased concentrations of pro-inflammatory cytokines, as well as decreased concentrations of anti-inflammatory cytokines in vitamin D insufficiency [3,4]. Although final proof of causality and prevention of deaths by vitamin D supplementation would have to come from randomized trials which meanwhile have been initiated (e.g., [5]), the results of such trials will not be available in the short run. Given the dynamics of the COVID-19 pandemic and the proven safety of vitamin D supplementation, it therefore appears highly debatable and potentially even unethical to await results of such trials before public health action is taken. Besides other population-wide measures of prevention, widespread vitamin D3 supplementation at least for high-risk groups, such as older adults or people with relevant comorbidity, which has been proven by randomized controlled trials to be beneficial with respect to prevention of other acute respiratory infections and acute acerbation of asthma and chronic pulmonary disease [6,7,8,9,10], should be promoted. In addition, targeted vitamin D3 supplementation of people tested SARS-CoV-2-positive may be warranted.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#27064035 - 11/30/20 06:22 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well, there's at least a third of the population who will not take the vaccine no matter what. What do you propose we do about them?
Take them out back behind the woodshed?
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: pslyke] 1
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My x has had a nightmare with his father and lost him last night. His religious family insisted on them keeping him alive at all costs and he shamed them into letting him pass last night. Their entire family that lives together now has it and several are 80+ with health issues. Covid is devastating.
1. As of 6:00 PM tonight eastern time, Dad is still ventilated and has been on CRRT Dialysis for 5 hrs. He is at 100% oxygenation (they cannot give him any more). And his condition is worsening since being on dialysis. 2. Because of the multiple times they have performed CPR he has one broken rib and his lung was punctured as a result. He now has a tube in his chest to ameliorate that injury. 3. His body temperature is cold 91 degrees. His brain is not telling his body to heat itself properly since the CPR. 4. Tomorrow they will perform an EEG to determine the condition of his brain function. 5. They have added a 4th pressor which makes his body pull blood from his extremities to his vital organs. 6. Lungs, he has two virulent forms of COVID pneumonia. They are looking to evaluate his arterial blood gasses (how is his body coping?). They are looking for good arterial blood gas but he is acidotic because his lungs aren't functioning. He is getting 100% oxygen and is worsening. His lungs have pneumo thorax = collapsed because of the multiple times of CPR. 7. In the best case, if dialysis succeeds there will be a quality of life issues even if he survives all the rest. 8. He is on four different meds to keep his blood pressure where it should be and it is worsening.
I'm sorry to not have better news. I know you all have him in your prayers. With blessings to all.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: pslyke]
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Well, there's at least a third of the population who will not take the vaccine no matter what. What do you propose we do about them?
Take them out back behind the woodshed? 
That'll be fun seeing as that +/-30% also owns +/- 60% of the guns.
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