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OfflineSkizor1337
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Ok I seriously need some advice
    #27060864 - 11/27/20 09:31 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I don't get why for the love of christ I am having the hardest time of my life with tripping right now. Tripping isnt something new to me but every time I take them I just don't feel in control physically or mentally

Let me explain....

ALL I want to do for the duration (most) of my trip is lay in bed with my dog and listen to music which has been accomplished in the past. I was taking 2.5Gs for a while

These last two times were with 3Gs and my body just felt soooooo tense and i COULDNT get comfortable in bed. My arms are even still slightly numb and tingly just from the way I was laying in bed. Which keep in mind is how I normally am in my bed on a daily basis...........

I'm feeling all types of ways.... pissed cause I want to know wtf is going on and how to fix it

Also WHY!?!? is my body so fucked when I'm just trying to meditate and chill dog.

IU even got this new body pillow last week I have been using and it's so comfy but somehow felt like it pinched the nerves in my back.

I took these tonight and was wildy lost for about 3 to 4 hrs and was really wondering why tripping is so hard. Like harder than it's ever been.

I used to be able to drop 1/8th and be meditating balls deep to the peak in like 30 mins. I can clearly remember TONS of solo trips like that only a few years ago.


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Re: Ok I seriously need some advice [Re: Skizor1337]
    #27060934 - 11/27/20 10:48 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Might be a sign to take a few months off? Might also be some subconscious thing about lounging around, maybe your body wants more exercise?


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Re: Ok I seriously need some advice [Re: JonBa]
    #27060960 - 11/27/20 11:23 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe this is what you asked for...?
Getting more feelings also implies getting more feelings for pain and other bodysensations etc.
I also have those bodyloads, i have learned to trust the mushrooms because i always survived those experiences. So i have learned to leave the body doing whatever he ist doing.


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Re: Ok I seriously need some advice [Re: Skizor1337]
    #27061013 - 11/28/20 01:11 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe it's a sign to take some time off or maybe you are not in a good mindset to trip at the current moment. I find that my best trips are when I take months or even 1-2 years off. I come back and it's magic again for a few doses. Once it loses its magic I set it down until the time is right.


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Re: Ok I seriously need some advice [Re: Rise against]
    #27061183 - 11/28/20 07:38 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah i agree, maybe take a break for a bit man


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Re: Ok I seriously need some advice [Re: Rise against]
    #27061256 - 11/28/20 08:25 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Try upping the dosage to 4 to 5 grams, and perhaps add some Lemon Balm tea to the mix for a more relaxing kind of experience. I've noticed for myself if i take a 3 gram range dosage of mushrooms it doesn't really take me where i wanna go, i think 4 to 5 grams is probably a fuller dosage but ya know mushroom potency varies. Or you could try the Psilohuasca route, which imo would surely give you something more.

In terms of control and such, that's one thing, you have to give up control, let go, surrender, give in, by not doing so, you set yourself up for an uncomfortable or challenging experience.

But yeah, i'd recommend checking out some Lemon Balm or Syrian Rue/Harmalas, or both, to the mushrooms. Rue/Harmalas make things very physically relaxing, especially for laying in bed, going within, meditating, listening to music, etc, it also makes it much more of an inward journey. Lemon Balm can be physically relaxing some, but is also good for mental relaxation, reducing stress/panic and helping to provide mental calmness.

There's a whole world of flavor/alteration/enhancement one can add to their Psychedelic experience, rather than taking just the Psychedelic on it's own. It's something worth checking out imo.

But as others have said, sometimes it can just mean to take a break for a bit and then go back to it. But if you feel like taking them, i'd just say to adjust the dosage and perhaps add some things to it to get more out of it. Also keep in mind that your mindset and how interactive you are with the Psychedelic can be a main player in how your experience plays out, sometimes you have to get into it and interact with it and induce different states, navigate the headspace, play with it, because the Psychedelic itself isn't gonna do everything, sometimes things are stagnant/stale and it's up to you to provide the flow. Most people just sit there and let the Psychedelic have it's effects and do whatever it's going to do, but it's a 2 player game, the Psychedelic and you, so interaction and play and inducing things from within you helps to get the Psychedelic to flow.


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Re: Ok I seriously need some advice [Re: Sabnock]
    #27061302 - 11/28/20 09:09 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Sabnock said:
I've noticed for myself if i take a 3 gram range dosage of mushrooms it doesn't really take me where i wanna go, i think 4 to 5 grams is probably a fuller dosage but ya know mushroom potency varies. Or you could try the Psilohuasca route, which imo would surely give you something more.





I'm in a similar boat... Anything under 3-4g really just makes me uncomfortable, causing me to toss and turn...

I absolutely need 5-7g of regular cubes, or ~2-3g+ Penis envy to really have an enjoyable experience



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Re: Ok I seriously need some advice [Re: Sabnock]
    #27061320 - 11/28/20 09:19 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

First off! Thanks fdor all the replies.
I don't think it was mindset I was very happy and relaxed before the trip
Also I even took 3Grams last Friday so I thought my brain would have been prepped and ready.

Also if anything I exercise too much on a weekly basis. I lift quite heavy during the week. Maybe that's why my body is a little tense. but STILLLLL this shit was UNREAL when it came to laying in bed. I had to sit on the edge of my bed staring at the floor just so my back and arms wouldn't hurt. It wasnt fun for the majority of the trip. 4 HRS in is when the light went off in my head and I felt great but not worth the 4HR wait lol


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Sabnock said:
Try upping the dosage to 4 to 5 grams, and perhaps add some Lemon Balm tea to the mix for a more relaxing kind of experience. I've noticed for myself if i take a 3 gram range dosage of mushrooms it doesn't really take me where i wanna go, i think 4 to 5 grams is probably a fuller dosage but ya know mushroom potency varies. Or you could try the Psilohuasca route, which imo would surely give you something more.

In terms of control and such, that's one thing, you have to give up control, let go, surrender, give in, by not doing so, you set yourself up for an uncomfortable or challenging experience.

But yeah, i'd recommend checking out some Lemon Balm or Syrian Rue/Harmalas, or both, to the mushrooms. Rue/Harmalas make things very physically relaxing, especially for laying in bed, going within, meditating, listening to music, etc, it also makes it much more of an inward journey. Lemon Balm can be physically relaxing some, but is also good for mental relaxation, reducing stress/panic and helping to provide mental calmness.

There's a whole world of flavor/alteration/enhancement one can add to their Psychedelic experience, rather than taking just the Psychedelic on it's own. It's something worth checking out imo.

But as others have said, sometimes it can just mean to take a break for a bit and then go back to it. But if you feel like taking them, i'd just say to adjust the dosage and perhaps add some things to it to get more out of it. Also keep in mind that your mindset and how interactive you are with the Psychedelic can be a main player in how your experience plays out, sometimes you have to get into it and interact with it and induce different states, navigate the headspace, play with it, because the Psychedelic itself isn't gonna do everything, sometimes things are stagnant/stale and it's up to you to provide the flow. Most people just sit there and let the Psychedelic have it's effects and do whatever it's going to do, but it's a 2 player game, the Psychedelic and you, so interaction and play and inducing things from within you helps to get the Psychedelic to flow.




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Re: Ok I seriously need some advice [Re: Skizor1337]
    #27061388 - 11/28/20 10:22 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Could be some vasoconstriction. with the tense body and pinched nerve stuff that's what it sounds like to me. Do you stretch? like in your daily life? I noticed you said that you work out a lot so if you're not stretching feeling tense would make sense.

Also tripping can change. Its changed so much for me as I have gotten older. What has helped me to to continue to find benefit in the use mushrooms is to except the experience that is given to me as the experience that I need and to just let go and be an observer of the experience.

As the great Brue Lee once said....

“Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find a way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.


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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
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Re: Ok I seriously need some advice [Re: SpaceDawg]
    #27061442 - 11/28/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

SpaceDawg said:

As the great Brue Lee once said....

“Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find a way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.





^^^^^This..... I find that this is the best approach for myself personally when working with mushrooms and dmt...

As I've gotten older, tripping has become different, in the best possible way... I'm much more centered/grounded than I ever was ten years ago... I belive this state of being is a product of much focus and awareness - that only meditative self reflection + psychedelics can bring....

another thing to consider:

With age, our intentions change....

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Re: Ok I seriously need some advice [Re: 1Love1]
    #27062042 - 11/28/20 06:43 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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1Love1 said:
Quote:

SpaceDawg said:

As the great Brue Lee once said....

“Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find a way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.





^^^^^This..... I find that this is the best approach for myself personally when working with mushrooms and dmt...

As I've gotten older, tripping has become different, in the best possible way... I'm much more centered/grounded than I ever was ten years ago... I belive this state of being is a product of much focus and awareness - that only meditative self reflection + psychedelics can bring....

another thing to consider:

With age, our intentions change....

Light and Love and Travel Well.....






Haha well my intensions are much different than what they once were.
Just trying to trip and enter the void


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Re: Ok I seriously need some advice [Re: Skizor1337]
    #27062288 - 11/28/20 11:31 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

As others have said, you have two options:

  • Up the dose

  • Take a break


Both, in theory, SHOULD yield the results you seek, OP.


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Re: Ok I seriously need some advice [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27062853 - 11/29/20 11:09 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Loaded Shaman said:
As others have said, you have two options:

  • Up the dose

  • Take a break


Both, in theory, SHOULD yield the results you seek, OP.




I suppose I can take another break....
I was on like a 6 - 8 week break before starting.

I kinda feel like if the break is too long you forget how tripping is and makes it just the more difficult to trip IMHO.


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Re: Ok I seriously need some advice [Re: Skizor1337]
    #27062867 - 11/29/20 11:22 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I'd look in to what you consumed through out the day. things like pepsi, coffee i have notice to completely make my trips shaky and hard to manage my brain.

things I eat and and interactions with people good/bad all change what happens during my trip.
my biggest concerns when deciding to trip, is what food I ate that day more type then amount.


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