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(EM) Rain Water?
    #27061258 - 11/28/20 08:29 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Hi everyone- relearning things after taking a break.
Happy to be here, and appreciative for any help.

Using Mateah's Humidity Chamber tek. I have either Brita or fresh rainwater to constitute the coco coir. My tap water is garbage, so prefer using rainwater.

Or should I delay until I can get distilled bottle water?


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Re: (EM) Rain Water? [Re: EarlyMorningRain]
    #27061261 - 11/28/20 08:32 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Use tap.
Distilled is no good. Rain is full of politants that it pulls from the air.

Tap at least has some chlorine


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Re: (EM) Rain Water? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27061282 - 11/28/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Will do.
Jw, why do people risk prosecution to collect rainwater? Thought the water cycle was purifying.

My city hasn't met water quality requirement in over a year. It's common to receive instruction to not drink the water due to contam.

Thanks for the reply, I'm following your EAF tek:mushroom2:


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Re: (EM) Rain Water? [Re: EarlyMorningRain]
    #27061285 - 11/28/20 08:54 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Oh no you got libertarian nutter news. There's no prosecution for collecting rainwater anywhere in america

https://www.houstonpress.com/news/the-memes-are-wrong-you-can-collect-rainwater-11495357

Rainwater that's made its way into the ground gets filtered and purified. That's why wells are safe


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Re: (EM) Rain Water? [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #27061314 - 11/28/20 09:15 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Oh no you got libertarian nutter news




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Depends who you ask!


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Re: (EM) Rain Water? [Re: EarlyMorningRain]
    #27061348 - 11/28/20 09:44 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

It was a big myth in their circles as example of government overreaching. But it's completely bullshit.


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Re: (EM) Rain Water? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27061384 - 11/28/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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bodhisatta said:
...Tap at least has some chlorine




Can there be too much? On the heels of our last boil order, you can smell the chlorine when running the tap.

And for that reason I double ran tap through the brita before dunking. And went away for 3 days.
Copasetic?


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Re: (EM) Rain Water? [Re: EarlyMorningRain]
    #27061391 - 11/28/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

The highest chlorine in the country is no where near enough to matter. If anything it's helpful.

I don't know that anywhere in the US that the PPM chlorine is above 1

You could make 150ppm chlorine water to spray fruits with for bacterial blotch


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Re: (EM) Rain Water? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27061420 - 11/28/20 10:40 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

How's that compare to say 5% hydrogen peroxide?

What do you think of adding such to coir? In addition to using tap.  :takingnotes:


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Re: (EM) Rain Water? [Re: EarlyMorningRain]
    #27061426 - 11/28/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Probably harms mycelium enough to help out contaminants. Dead mycelium is food


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Re: (EM) Rain Water? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27061429 - 11/28/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Hydrogen peroxide comes at 3% usually. So a 5% solution made with that has 1500 ppm peroxide which is probably a awful lot


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Re: (EM) Rain Water? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27061452 - 11/28/20 11:01 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Don't people use HP in their spore syringes? TMI.. :confused2:

Was going to use it in water that'll expand the coir. Cakes would not be in direct contact, regardless.
Using a humidity chamber, so you mean the condensation wicking off the coir in that semi-vacuum would damage/kill the mycelium?


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Re: (EM) Rain Water? [Re: EarlyMorningRain]
    #27061456 - 11/28/20 11:04 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

If people put peroxide in their syringes they're probably getting their info off reddit or facebook.

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you mean the condensation wicking off the coir in that semi-vacuum would damage/kill the mycelium?




Wut


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Re: (EM) Rain Water? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27061491 - 11/28/20 11:33 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Sure, but then they bring it here, and pollute accurate info! /rant.

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wut



Another example of conflicting info.
Some use hydrogen peroxide in the water that constitutes the coco coir. Because the cakes are on foil, there is no direct contact. Would not be misting with the peroxide (if at all considering a 3 day dunk).

However, especially considering that I'm using humidity chambers instead of SGFC, there are no holes drilled and aside from a cracked lid, no ventilation.

So if H2O2 kills mycelium, and minding the less ventilation factor, would the humidity inside the chamber really be detrimental to the cakes?

I'll skip adding it in, just curious.


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Re: (EM) Rain Water? [Re: EarlyMorningRain]
    #27061495 - 11/28/20 11:36 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I figured you were making a tub when you mentioned coir.

Its probably fine in the coir in a humidity chamber. But i couldn't imagine doing that much stuff for some cakes


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Re: (EM) Rain Water? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27061515 - 11/28/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Small batch just to remember basics.

Typical n00b over thinking and anxious.
Hence,
A drop of peroxide shall make me warm and fuzzy inside.

Thanks for your patience/help. :superscience:


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Re: (EM) Rain Water? [Re: EarlyMorningRain]
    #27061782 - 11/28/20 03:08 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Bod, is there any chemical (h2o2) that is a guaranteed against contams like cobweb? I know if I see contam I should bury it but I’m a stickler for time. If I can help the mycelium in any way I would like to know. Thank you.


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Re: (EM) Rain Water? [Re: lefthand98]
    #27062090 - 11/28/20 07:23 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Nothing is "guaranteed."

To the OP, just hydrate some coir with boiling water via the bucket tek and stop worrying. It will go months without growing anything.


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Re: (EM) Rain Water? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27062101 - 11/28/20 07:36 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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bodhisatta said:
Distilled is no good.




How come distilled is so bad?


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Re: (EM) Rain Water? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #27062124 - 11/28/20 08:01 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Devoid of a natural amount of minerals and ions


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