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OfflineLeningradCowboy
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New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. * 1
    #27060362 - 11/27/20 02:59 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.11.19.20235036v1.full

We can now stop the spreading the 3-4% infection death rate(IDR) propaganda.
Globally average is 0.68 [0.53, 0.82]%

In Finland 0.3-0.4% And in these numbers all but 20 of 398 were Long term patients for other diseases than COVID-19 disease. And COVID-19 disease could not been ruled as the only reason for death.

I ask and demand Opening the official thread for me myself and Hamhead in the name of free speech and freedom. And to free him from pub ban(making him mod would be nice way to say sorry btw guys)
There is enough data surfacing all over the world that the corporate data and numbers are invalid.

There has been lots of talk about harm reduction etc. And to reduce the harm that this crisis is causing. And to reduce the harm that actions that are made justified by this crisis we need to stick to facts.

This virus is not so deadly that has been blasted by corporation media.

To all mods and admins of Shroomery please dont belive corporate lies. Read that study before deciding that I´´m talking out of my arse

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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: LeningradCowboy] * 6
    #27060368 - 11/27/20 03:03 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Hospitalization and permanent lung effects are still not a great outcome. Especially in a country without free healthcare and Right-to-work laws where you can be fired for getting sick.


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: LeningradCowboy] * 7
    #27060369 - 11/27/20 03:04 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I ask and demand Opening the official thread for me myself and Hamhead in the name of free speech and freedom. And to free him from pub ban(making him mod would be nice way to say sorry btw guys)





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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: Crazy_Horse] * 6
    #27060386 - 11/27/20 03:12 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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LeningradCowboy said:
I ask and demand Opening the official thread for me myself and Hamhead in the name of free speech and freedom. And to free him from pub ban(making him mod would be nice way to say sorry btw guys)





:rofl2:




no thank you the pub is stupid enough at present


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #27060391 - 11/27/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, the right to work laws are BS and basically let employers fire anyone for any reason at all, without just cause.


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: Fiery] * 3
    #27060460 - 11/27/20 04:01 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Right to work laws are antiunion. It's employment at will laws that allow the employer to fire for any reason or no reason.


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27060466 - 11/27/20 04:05 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Ah yes, thanks for clarifying... At will employment is the pits. I would not want to work for a company that has that.


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: LeningradCowboy] * 3
    #27060495 - 11/27/20 04:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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LeningradCowboy said:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.11.19.20235036v1.full

We can now stop the spreading the 3-4% infection death rate(IDR) propaganda.
Globally average is 0.68 [0.53, 0.82]%

In Finland 0.3-0.4% And in these numbers all but 20 of 398 were Long term patients for other diseases than COVID-19 disease. And COVID-19 disease could not been ruled as the only reason for death.

I ask and demand Opening the official thread for me myself and Hamhead in the name of free speech and freedom. And to free him from pub ban(making him mod would be nice way to say sorry btw guys)
There is enough data surfacing all over the world that the corporate data and numbers are invalid.

There has been lots of talk about harm reduction etc. And to reduce the harm that this crisis is causing. And to reduce the harm that actions that are made justified by this crisis we need to stick to facts.

This virus is not so deadly that has been blasted by corporation media.

To all mods and admins of Shroomery please dont belive corporate lies. Read that study before deciding that I´´m talking out of my arse

Peace and Love
As allways




I'd love to understand what your endgame is here? Like really, what do you hope to accomplish if you could wave your magic wand? If you and HamHead want to get together and make out there is no one stopping you. So what if the death rate is 0.68% People can make their own informed decisions. Hopefully they will not do so at the selfish expense of others.

And for the record-- MedRxiv is a shit publication. It often allows science hacks to get out their non-peer-reviewed biases before they are forced to crawl back under the rock from whence they came.

And....these threads are what happens when recreational armchair scientists get a wifi connection.


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: LeningradCowboy] * 4
    #27060529 - 11/27/20 04:39 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

That's great. Wear your mask, wash your hands, stay the fuck away from me :cookiemonster:


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: pslyke] * 1
    #27060569 - 11/27/20 05:09 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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And for the record-- MedRxiv is a shit publication. It often allows science hacks to get out their non-peer-reviewed biases before they are forced to crawl back under the rock from whence they came.



LOL, it's amazing the shite sources some people will reach for to alleviate their cognitive dissonance. It's very tiring to be on the receiving end of.

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Medrxiv (pronounced "med-archive", as "med - r chi ve") is an Internet site distributing unpublished eprints about health sciences.[2][3][4][5] It distributes complete but unpublished manuscripts in the areas of medicine, clinical research, and related health sciences without charge to the reader. Such manuscripts have yet to undergo peer review and the site notes that preliminary status and that the manuscripts should not be considered for clinical application, nor relied upon for news reporting as established information.[6]



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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: Ahab McBathsalts] * 1
    #27060731 - 11/27/20 07:50 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Hospitalization and permanent lung effects are still not a great outcome. Especially in a country without free healthcare and Right-to-work laws where you can be fired for getting sick.



If you have to be hospitalized with covid in the US and you don’t have insurance, your dreams are over. Instead you’ll be paying off the $100k bill for years


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: koods] * 1
    #27060775 - 11/27/20 08:28 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

It's clear that you don't know how hospital bills work without insurance and even with insurance. In fact ,it's clear that you know nothing at all about this.:themoreyouknow:


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: Fiery] * 4
    #27060805 - 11/27/20 08:54 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Active holocaust deniers have no place in society. This is a genocide of the most vulernable and 13m with permanent horrible scaring to their lungs and organs throughout the body. Denying covid deaths legitimacy is like being in Nazi Germany smelling the bodies burning saying the holocaust wasn't as bad as people said it was even though they saw what happened to jews. There's loads and loads of videos of the carnage, documentation and fsmilies across the nation. All the mass graves in America, overfilling ICUs with the highest death rate since the beginning of the pandemic, people denying this reality have no place in society, fucktards think their right to not wear a piece of cloth on their face in public areas is more Important then saving lives and it's dispicable. 265k dead and you're doing this crap here?


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #27060823 - 11/27/20 09:02 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yep. Great rant there. And how true.


I'm not a violent person but when I See people without masks I literally want to punch them in the face and start kicking them on the ground.


Like seriously I don't have angry thoughts at all usually but not wearing a mask gets me steaming.


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: Fiery] * 1
    #27060866 - 11/27/20 09:34 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Seriously what is the point of this thread? 265k dead in the US and people are still trying to say its not that bad?


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: Fiery]
    #27060899 - 11/27/20 10:18 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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It's clear that you don't know how hospital bills work without insurance and even with insurance. In fact ,it's clear that you know nothing at all about this.:themoreyouknow:




If you don’t have insurance you don’t get the reduced fees that insurance companies negotiate with providers. The


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: searching]
    #27060924 - 11/27/20 10:37 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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searching said:
Seriously what is the point of this thread? 265k dead in the US and people are still trying to say its not that bad?





but muslims didn't do it, so whats the point of getting upset I guess


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: Ezuma]
    #27060942 - 11/27/20 10:56 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Could be the muzzie terrorists made the virus


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: koods]
    #27060946 - 11/27/20 11:03 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I am 95% sure I had Covid late Jan/early Feb. of this past year.  It was a bit before it was a super known thing.  I was staying in Oakland,CA for a work trip.  Spent a majority of the time in Oakland Chinatown eating, running about etc.  It was a shithole filthy place, and from what i've heard probably close to ground zero in the states for where this shit came from.

Got sick as fuck on the last day.  Came back in a delirious feverdream stupor and stayed in bed for two weeks with a respiratory infection hacking my lungs out.


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: koods]
    #27060957 - 11/27/20 11:19 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #27060972 - 11/27/20 11:56 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Did he really say that? Holy shit.


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: koods] * 2
    #27060976 - 11/28/20 12:02 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Wait, HamHead is banned from the Pub and not the Politics forum?

Fuck...

That settles it, I need to spend more time in the Pub, where adults can have discussions.


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #27060993 - 11/28/20 12:40 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

pslyke said:

And for the record-- MedRxiv is a shit publication. It often allows science hacks to get out their non-peer-reviewed biases before they are forced to crawl back under the rock from whence they came.

And....these threads are what happens when recreational armchair scientists get a wifi connection.




This does not fit my fears, must be false.
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pslyke said:
And for the record-- MedRxiv is a shit publication. It often allows science hacks to get out their non-peer-reviewed biases before they are forced to crawl back under the rock from whence they came.



LOL, it's amazing the shite sources some people will reach for to alleviate their cognitive dissonance. It's very tiring to be on the receiving end of.

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Medrxiv (pronounced "med-archive", as "med - r chi ve") is an Internet site distributing unpublished eprints about health sciences.[2][3][4][5] It distributes complete but unpublished manuscripts in the areas of medicine, clinical research, and related health sciences without charge to the reader. Such manuscripts have yet to undergo peer review and the site notes that preliminary status and that the manuscripts should not be considered for clinical application, nor relied upon for news reporting as established information.[6]



Source




You are really using wikipedia as source here?
If you had just opened said study it says clearly at the start of the study

"This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice."

Study was made by Robert Bainbridge, Oliver Buchmüller, Louis Lyons and Nicholas Wardle and Mikael Mieskolainen.

The time when people attacking persons who disagree with the corporation narrative are going to feel akwardly shamed is near.

But until then it might enchance your digital boner to go on kindergarden level on your behavior.

It is all so friggin funny that half of the comments in this thread are about masks. This has nothing to with teks used to flat the curve. Just doctors who study the infection fatality rate of covid-19.

And this is all so published in Mainstream media in Finland for example. People challenging the propaganda about corona all over the world. You may choose your self how stuck in your opinions you are.

Sign of intelligence is not how stubborn you are, but are you able to change your views of things when data is presented to you.
If you choose to belive cnn etc before actual scientists well that is your choise. I belive in freedom of will strongly but hey at least take a look on evidence presented to you before calling it bogus:shrug:

P.s. Did any of you actually read that said study before starting to run your mouths?


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: christopera]
    #27061024 - 11/28/20 01:38 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Wait, HamHead is banned from the Pub and not the Politics forum?

Fuck...

That settles it, I need to spend more time in the Pub, where adults can have discussions.




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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: searching]
    #27061149 - 11/28/20 06:50 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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searching said:
Seriously what is the point of this thread? 265k dead in the US and people are still trying to say its not that bad?



I am nothing like OP here. And I'm really not entirely sure what his goal is, but can we admit it is definitely not as bad as we thought it might have been?


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: koods]
    #27061150 - 11/28/20 06:55 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Could be the muzzie terrorists made the virus



No no MERS is the Middle East themed one.


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: metalfaith] * 3
    #27061159 - 11/28/20 07:04 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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searching said:
Seriously what is the point of this thread? 265k dead in the US and people are still trying to say its not that bad?



I am nothing like OP here. And I'm really not entirely sure what his goal is, but can we admit it is definitely not as bad as we thought it might have been?




Personally I think it's worse. The death % was always estimated to be a fairly low % with the sick and elderly most at risk, although 1 in ever 160 people is not exactly a good ratio. I was never worried about dying though, these after-effects like blood clots, lung/heart damage, chronic inflammatory reactions, chronic fatigue etc that are occuring in like half of the people that they actually examine for them is pretty troubling though.


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: koods]
    #27061160 - 11/28/20 07:06 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

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It's clear that you don't know how hospital bills work without insurance and even with insurance. In fact ,it's clear that you know nothing at all about this.:themoreyouknow:




If you don’t have insurance you don’t get the reduced fees that insurance companies negotiate with providers. The





Not true at all. Do some research and then report back :picard:


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: koods]
    #27061161 - 11/28/20 07:07 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Did he really say that? Holy shit.



Nah but I’ve seen some people online say it :rofl:


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: feevers]
    #27061171 - 11/28/20 07:22 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

That's an interesting take. I recall hearing "millions" and "two-hundred million" and all this crap. Maybe I heard some crazy predictions because I am on reddit, but it seems, even given those serious side effect, the numbers don't seem to match up to what I recall hearing. I mean is 250k people really worth all that we have done?

This is where I can empathize with the crazy Trumpers. It seems to me, the virus is like 10-20% as bad as was predicted. And yet it doesn't seem like anyone has given up any ground. First it was "let's lockdown so the hospitals don't overflow". Then we did and the story changed to "let's lockdown to prevent the spread". Maybe it's the sources of media I consume?


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: metalfaith]
    #27061188 - 11/28/20 07:41 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I've had 5 figure hospital debt numerous times...if you really don't make enough money you can write them a letter of hardship and they will
Forgive almost all the debt.  I've done it multiple times and am procrastinating doing it a third time.  They don't make you pay 100000 dollars when your poor because you got covid.  Maybe the bill will say that but it's pretty straightforward to get out of.  Every hospitals financial branch will give you the right forms if you ask.  You'd have to be making enough money that they know they can squeeze it out of you; for them to deny your request.  they are pretty fair about not ruining lives with ER debt.  Then again I'm
Pretty poor on paper for this exact reason


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: metalfaith]
    #27061193 - 11/28/20 07:45 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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That's an interesting take. I recall hearing "millions" and "two-hundred million" and all this crap. Maybe I heard some crazy predictions because I am on reddit, but it seems, even given those serious side effect, the numbers don't seem to match up to what I recall hearing. I mean is 250k people really worth all that we have done?

This is where I can empathize with the crazy Trumpers. It seems to me, the virus is like 10-20% as bad as was predicted. And yet it doesn't seem like anyone has given up any ground. First it was "let's lockdown so the hospitals don't overflow". Then we did and the story changed to "let's lockdown to prevent the spread". Maybe it's the sources of media I consume?




Well you can't really ask if 250k dead is worth what we did as a response because the response itself is the reason why the number isn't higher. Assuming the # in the OP is correct, that's over 2 million deaths if the virus ran its course here. If it all happened at the same time, like what started to happen before shutdowns in NY, the number would've been much higher because people would have no access to medical care. Hospitals would not only be overrun but a giant portion of their staff would be out sick. Other emergencies like strokes, heart attacks, etc would have grim outcomes in that scenario as well. It doesn't take much at all for a hospital to go from "average occupancy" to "at capacity", and get to a NY situation where ambulances are getting tuned away and refrigerated trucks full of bodies are parked on the corner.

From the beginning I've thougt that one 3-6 week shutdown of everything non-essential followed by an intense testing and contact tracing program, as well as masks and practical distancing rules, was the best way to go. The federal government decided to practically ignore it at first, then half-ass every measure they did take, and then give up when that approach failed. It's crazy that after all the damage we've done to our econony and all the time we've had to put a better plan in place we're at a point where things are getting worse than they were before we even did anything. I guess that's what happens when you let a reality tv real estate agent run a country though.


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    #27061200 - 11/28/20 07:51 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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I've had 5 figure hospital debt numerous times...if you really don't make enough money you can write them a letter of hardship and they will
Forgive almost all the debt.  I've done it multiple times and am procrastinating doing it a third time.  They don't make you pay 100000 dollars when your poor because you got covid.  Maybe the bill will say that but it's pretty straightforward to get out of.  Every hospitals financial branch will give you the right forms if you ask.  You'd have to be making enough money that they know they can squeeze it out of you; for them to deny your request.  they are pretty fair about not ruining lives with ER debt.  Then again I'm
Pretty poor on paper for this exact reason




That's usually true but not the full story. Some hospitals are much worse than others about working with you, and many times doctors and anesthesiologists can also bill you privately as well, and are much less forgiving than a hospital billing department. Those are the surprise bills that ruin a lot of people, and with all the traveling and contract staff due to virus I'm guessing that will be increasing.


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    #27061208 - 11/28/20 07:54 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah. I get all those things. And you are right, I am not mad enough or directing enough frustration at the route cause.

Not flexing or anything, but I have been an ICU nurse this whole pandemic, so I am very familiar with hospital capacity and such. You are all right there too.

You are right, appropriate responses could have us in a different world of circumstances.

Alas, care to respond to my numbers? We got worse case scenario here, basically nothing was done right, and we still only got 250k cases. I haven't really been following the research much recently, do you know the incidence of significant side effects? I have not seen many PEs or clots. A handful but nothing crazy. Is my understanding of the previous predictions of millions dead my error? Do you see what I am talking about with no one seeming to be giving up ground?


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    #27061209 - 11/28/20 07:54 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

How can a dr bill you privately if you go to a hospital that's "public" so to speak?  Do u mean if they do a surgery or something ?  I would think they still have to go through the hospital they work at to get paid that's way beyond me though tbh


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    #27061215 - 11/28/20 08:00 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Were millions of deaths predicted to happen in the US by a certain date, or by the time the outbreak has fully run its course, whenever that is?


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And for the record-- MedRxiv is a shit publication. It often allows science hacks to get out their non-peer-reviewed biases before they are forced to crawl back under the rock from whence they came.

And....these threads are what happens when recreational armchair scientists get a wifi connection.




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And for the record-- MedRxiv is a shit publication. It often allows science hacks to get out their non-peer-reviewed biases before they are forced to crawl back under the rock from whence they came.



LOL, it's amazing the shite sources some people will reach for to alleviate their cognitive dissonance. It's very tiring to be on the receiving end of.

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Medrxiv (pronounced "med-archive", as "med - r chi ve") is an Internet site distributing unpublished eprints about health sciences.[2][3][4][5] It distributes complete but unpublished manuscripts in the areas of medicine, clinical research, and related health sciences without charge to the reader. Such manuscripts have yet to undergo peer review and the site notes that preliminary status and that the manuscripts should not be considered for clinical application, nor relied upon for news reporting as established information.[6]



Source




You are really using wikipedia as source here?
If you had just opened said study it says clearly at the start of the study

"This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice."

Study was made by Robert Bainbridge, Oliver Buchmüller, Louis Lyons and Nicholas Wardle and Mikael Mieskolainen.

The time when people attacking persons who disagree with the corporation narrative are going to feel akwardly shamed is near.

But until then it might enchance your digital boner to go on kindergarden level on your behavior.

It is all so friggin funny that half of the comments in this thread are about masks. This has nothing to with teks used to flat the curve. Just doctors who study the infection fatality rate of covid-19.

And this is all so published in Mainstream media in Finland for example. People challenging the propaganda about corona all over the world. You may choose your self how stuck in your opinions you are.

Sign of intelligence is not how stubborn you are, but are you able to change your views of things when data is presented to you.
If you choose to belive cnn etc before actual scientists well that is your choise. I belive in freedom of will strongly but hey at least take a look on evidence presented to you before calling it bogus:shrug:

P.s. Did any of you actually read that said study before starting to run your mouths?



Yes especially the part that said its an irrelevant opinion piece.

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"This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice."





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    #27061227 - 11/28/20 08:07 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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How can a dr bill you privately if you go to a hospital that's "public" so to speak?  Do u mean if they do a surgery or something ?  I would think they still have to go through the hospital they work at to get paid that's way beyond me though tbh




It gets confusing. Depending on the hospital, some of the workers are independent practitioners and not employed by the hospital. If you do a week with covid, you might get seperate bills from the hospital, radiologist, anesthesiologist, and maybe a physician or two. Usually this all gets worked out if you have insurance and they're all in-network providers, but even with insurance if any of them are out of network they might bill you seperately. It's very dumb, I know there was legislation to change it but I dont think it passed yet.


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    #27061233 - 11/28/20 08:11 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

That's pretty fucked.  I know I'm good cuz both times the dr barely did anything so my bills are not to enormous anyways.  The only real treatment I got was when one of the nurses did an incision on my abscess.  She wasn't a doctor though so I don't think the bill is as high.But I have been to multiple hospitals in PA (nice area) that worked with me and multiple hospitals in DE (not the best) that seem to be easy enough to work with too.  I didn't know about this nonsense.  At this point I'm just rambling


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: theRealrollforever]
    #27061241 - 11/28/20 08:17 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I've been told by lawyer that the hospital bills you roughly 100x what they expect to get out of you and anyone who pays the full bill without negotiating is crazy


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    #27061246 - 11/28/20 08:19 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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How can a dr bill you privately if you go to a hospital that's "public" so to speak?  Do u mean if they do a surgery or something ?  I would think they still have to go through the hospital they work at to get paid that's way beyond me though tbh




Most doctors don’t work for the hospital. They’re more like contractors who have a right to use the hospital facilities to see their patients. Those doctors bill separately for their services. The hospital is charging you for the hospital services and use of the equipment and bed.


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    #27061248 - 11/28/20 08:20 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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I've been told by lawyer that the hospital bills you roughly 100x what they expect to get out of you and anyone who pays the full bill without negotiating is crazy




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    #27061250 - 11/28/20 08:21 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah because even paying 10% of the bill will bankrupt most people here who have less than $2000 in savings


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: koods]
    #27061251 - 11/28/20 08:21 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

That makes sense.  I did get out of a huge hospital bill that involved an anesthesiologist and about 24 hours of being intubated when I burned my throat while blowing glass.  All of the doctors actually worked with the hospital though when I showed that I make no money.


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    #27061253 - 11/28/20 08:23 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I helped my ex declare bankruptcy because of tons of medical bills but mostly back mortgage.  It's not the worst thing in the world


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: koods]
    #27061259 - 11/28/20 08:30 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Two people both 6 figure medical debt. Ones a boomer worried crazy pays what they can becomes financially fucked.

Another person my age mid 30s 6 figure medical debt. Pretends like it doesn't exist. Never answers the letters or phone. Lives life like always has.

I'm in the second boat if I get crazy medical bills.
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    #27061262 - 11/28/20 08:33 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Yeah. I get all those things. And you are right, I am not mad enough or directing enough frustration at the route cause.

Not flexing or anything, but I have been an ICU nurse this whole pandemic, so I am very familiar with hospital capacity and such. You are all right there too.

You are right, appropriate responses could have us in a different world of circumstances.

Alas, care to respond to my numbers? We got worse case scenario here, basically nothing was done right, and we still only got 250k cases. I haven't really been following the research much recently, do you know the incidence of significant side effects? I have not seen many PEs or clots. A handful but nothing crazy. Is my understanding of the previous predictions of millions dead my error? Do you see what I am talking about with no one seeming to be giving up ground?




The federal government definitely dropped the ball but most cities and states, especially higher pop-density ones, still took pretty aggressive measures. It looks like we're seeing surges again because those measures are being rolled back, schools are open again, restaurants, larger gatherings etc. Had it not been for states taking action I don't have any doubt we'd be much closer to a million than to 0 right now.

Im on my phone so can't really pull up articles, just going from memory. I think the original death rate was predicted around 1.3%, so adjust that for the amount of people in the country they expected to get it and the number was in the millions. Once we learned more about asymptomatic carriers and how the number of people who had it were likely never tested, the % became a lot harder to gauge. Even with .63 that still means millions of deaths if we go back to things as normal.

I don't have the links atm but they took xrays from a sample on the diamond princess ship that got infected, and I think it was over 50% even of the asymptomatic carriers had lung scarring. Other studies I think out of china showed the same. There was a similar study with athletes and heart issues. I've been observing and am soon starting rotations in a COVID-specific rehab hospital, blood clots have been extremely common post-infection. The majority of patients are post-icu/vent CI neuropathies and myopathy, but strokes/heart attacks/blood clots are super prevalent. No one is really tracking these statistics though so it's hard to know any numbers.


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    #27061313 - 11/28/20 09:14 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Seriously what is the point of this thread? 265k dead in the US and people are still trying to say its not that bad?



I am nothing like OP here. And I'm really not entirely sure what his goal is, but can we admit it is definitely not as bad as we thought it might have been?




Sure maybe it's not as bad as we thought it would have been but it's still really bad and we should do things like wear masks, social distance, and probably do another lock down period right now. In the area I live in most people think the virus is no big deal and don't want to wear masks so that's mainly the type I'm arguing against.

Even if the death rate is really at 0.6% if half of the US population gets it then there will be over 1 million dead. But really if half of the population does get it within the next year then the hospitals  will be overrun and the death rate will be much higher. I think most hospitals are already nearing capacity right now so we may be having a different conversation a month from now.


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: searching]
    #27061592 - 11/28/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I am not advocating anything specifically or against anything specifically. Solely said I can understand the frustration that there seems to be no ceded ground despite it being much less worse than we expected.

It sucks we are here because so much damage cannot be undone. The more cases the harder it is to even try to stop the spread.


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    #27061748 - 11/28/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Tell me please how you are like not me?

My point in this is that the actual death rate of 3-4% seems to be invalid.

Media that drummed it is owned by same corporations that own the vaccine business.

Big pharma is not well know for it humane way of treating people for free, but making some serious $$$.

Pfizer that just released the vaccine first is known about lying about their products and safety.
For example they branded alpratzolam aka xanax as safe new benzo with zero addiction potentional.

https://discover.hubpages.com/politics/Pfizer-Chief-Science-Officer-Second-Wave-Based-on-Fake-Data-of-False-Positives-for-New-Cases-Pandemic-is-Over

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    #27061764 - 11/28/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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In other news...

“There is absolutely no need for vaccines to extinguish the pandemic. You do not vaccinate people who aren’t at risk from the disease. You also don’t set about planning to vaccinate millions of fit and healthy people with a vaccine that hasn’t been extensively tested on human subjects.” - Michael Yeadon, former vice president and Chief Scientist of Pfizer Pharmaceutical.



this was published by RIGHT WING political publications.
I highly doubt the rationality of it, and question your motivation for repeating it.

not a good thing to repeat.

i.e. FAKE NEWS!

use https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ to verify the alignment of your sources, and consider what ex-vp might mean:  eg. old and cannot think straight - so fired, retired and probable dementia, capitalist manipulator, Trumpist collaborator. etc.

anyway, we should look to epidemiologists for relevant information in this matter, science becomes fairly specialized and a pharmaceutical chemist may be very disconnected from medical epidemiology.




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    #27061821 - 11/28/20 03:32 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Two people both 6 figure medical debt. Ones a boomer worried crazy pays what they can becomes financially fucked.

Another person my age mid 30s 6 figure medical debt. Pretends like it doesn't exist. Never answers the letters or phone. Lives life like always has.

I'm in the second boat if I get crazy medical bills.
Besides I can make more money doing renovation under the table than I do at work and that's 1,000 a week after tax.


yeah I do the ignore thing and my credit is still good enough that I was able to snag a used truck.  I think people greatly overestimate what a medical debt means.  I know it exists but it isn't the same as being delinquent on a car payment or credit card, then they come and take anything that isn't paid off and seize it


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    #27061827 - 11/28/20 03:40 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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    #27061873 - 11/28/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Tell me please how you are like not me?

My point in this is that the actual death rate of 3-4% seems to be invalid.

Media that drummed it is owned by same corporations that own the vaccine business.

Big pharma is not well know for it humane way of treating people for free, but making some serious $$$.

Pfizer that just released the vaccine first is known about lying about their products and safety.
For example they branded alpratzolam aka xanax as safe new benzo with zero addiction potentional.

https://discover.hubpages.com/politics/Pfizer-Chief-Science-Officer-Second-Wave-Based-on-Fake-Data-of-False-Positives-for-New-Cases-Pandemic-is-Over

Former pfizer chief science officer talking about this crisis.




Lol well that article didn’t age well. Surprised you posted it since the guy was clearly wrong.

I don’t think anyone has been saying the mortality rate was 3-4% since February. I already told you guys it’s 1.2% and I’m sticking to it. 99.98% survival rate is obviously wrong since there are jurisdictions that blew through that number in mortality (not case fatality but overall mortality months ago). Nearly 0.4% of the Bronx population has died of covid, for example, so 99.98% is an absurd claim.


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    #27061899 - 11/28/20 04:46 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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For example they branded alpratzolam aka xanax as safe new benzo with zero addiction potentional.




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    #27062359 - 11/29/20 01:51 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

lol at thinking we have hit the worst case scenario already. we haven't even come there yet. we're starting to get there in places, with hospitals approaching capacity, but we haven't hit the worst case yet.

once you see those hospitals overflowing in large portions of america, THATS when you can see the death toll starting to wrack up and your ghoulish desires satisfied. we might even get it as a christmas present, if large portions of america were idiots for thanksgiving - which they likely were. i have little faith america has woken up to reality in the last week or so.

better yet, people will probably still stubbornly gather for christmas and new years before reality finally starts setting in, setting up even more destruction. we're really going to see an utter disaster by mid to late january, i think - especially once the flu season starts warming up.


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: Psion] * 1
    #27062795 - 11/29/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

America needs to consume mushrooms at a national level. It would erase the majority of evil, even if that means good people stepping up to the plate, instead of allowing all this cage loving pedophile garbage to exist.


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Re: New data about the infection death rate(IDR) of corona. Under 1%(0.63%) globally. [Re: O_Dweeds]
    #27063479 - 11/29/20 05:57 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Set up for the rice grain chip they do already and everyone will be forced to buy and sell under it.  And get the vaccine.  Blah.

New World Oder.  Lol.  Just a joke.:lahey:

What if those silly fucks abused it?  Under the stage name "Banker"?  And when has the government and bankers fucked people over and controlled them, to buy and sell? 





Edited by Barnaby (11/29/20 06:04 PM)


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