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If I'm used to high doses, could a low dose trigger an unpleasant experience?
    #27060150 - 11/27/20 12:54 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Howzit guys!

Okay so my last grow was pretty nice.
I've been tripping high doses for the past few months (4g-8g) on a weekly basis.
Its been awesome, it helped me out a deep depression and terrible anxiety.

But then out of the blue while only taking like 2.5g I got this intense body load that made me feel so awful that I cried for atleast 4 hours during the trip with minimal visuals this happened 3 times I. A row with atleast 2 weeks in between trips

Also I want to add, the last trip I had that I really enjoyed was on 5g dried. At the end of the trip I though it was a good idea to do a back flip off a bridge into a lake and belly flopped and thought I was dying as the shrooms intensified everything.

I want to trip again this weekend but I don't want cry again lol.

So you think that traumatic experience from jumping off the bridge could have impacted all my trips so far there after?

Or do you think because I'm used to tripping 5g+ that tripping on 2gs would just feel super weird?

Sorry if that doesn't make sense


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Re: If I'm used to high doses, could a low dose trigger an unpleasant experience? [Re: TheFourthEyE]
    #27060166 - 11/27/20 01:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

not necessarily. Depends what you want. Lowdoses can be totally fine. The comeup is less intense after all, but just the peak isn't anywhere near of higher doses.


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Re: If I'm used to high doses, could a low dose trigger an unpleasant experience? [Re: TheFourthEyE]
    #27060167 - 11/27/20 01:07 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I'm a big believer in high doses, but really don't get exploring the outside world (jumping off a bridge? really?!?!?) while on them. I use these doses to deeply probe my *inside world* and do so in very safe circumstances.

And I'm not much one for the 2g trips myself. I mostly do microdoses, occasionally do the big ones, and largely avoid the middle territory. Maybe you want to avoid the middle territory, too?

Also, think about taking time to integrate your experiences. You might want to space trips out more than you have.


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Re: If I'm used to high doses, could a low dose trigger an unpleasant experience? [Re: TheFourthEyE]
    #27060168 - 11/27/20 01:07 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

That makes total sense.

i only know the german word "zwischenwelt-syndrom". it means that taking too less of a psychedelic substance will bring you in an unpleaseant state between the worlds. neither is it a controllable experience nor a breakthrough. that causes lots of stress and often results in a difficult trip.
this is in general something more people should be aware of.

another thing that came to my mind when reading your post is that you seem to trip quite often. maybe the shrooms are telling you to take a break.


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Re: If I'm used to high doses, could a low dose trigger an unpleasant experience? [Re: Jim Nemo]
    #27060182 - 11/27/20 01:22 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Everything that everyone makes a lot of sense.

I guess I have been tripping way too often.


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Re: If I'm used to high doses, could a low dose trigger an unpleasant experience? [Re: Jim Nemo]
    #27060184 - 11/27/20 01:23 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not a proper expert, as I mostly had medium dose trips with only a couple of stronger-dose ones, but I have had tons of bad trips -like a dozen or so- and all of those were on doses of 2-3g, or similar doses of lsd. For me there was just a lot of physical suffering on those lower trips, combined with still being fully grounded in physical reality and having basically nothing of interest happening. Honestly I've been both miserable and bored on about half my trips, which didn't do anything beneficial for me and was honestly just a waste of time.

That said, I've also never tripped quite as frequently as you seem to, and most of my best trips were months apart from any others.


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Re: If I'm used to high doses, could a low dose trigger an unpleasant experience? [Re: TheFourthEyE] * 1
    #27060190 - 11/27/20 01:25 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, jumping off a bridge on mushrooms to backflip into water sounds like they are clouding your thinking too much! Don't get too influenced by the mushrooms


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Re: If I'm used to high doses, could a low dose trigger an unpleasant experience? [Re: Ezuma]
    #27060196 - 11/27/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm not a proper expert, as I mostly had medium dose trips with only a couple of stronger-dose ones, but I have had tons of bad trips -like a dozen or so- and all of those were on doses of 2-3g, or similar doses of lsd. For me there was just a lot of physical suffering on those lower trips, combined with still being fully grounded in physical reality and having basically nothing of interest happening. Honestly I've been both miserable and bored on about half my trips, which didn't do anything beneficial for me and was honestly just a waste of time.

That said, I've also never tripped quite as frequently as you seem to, and most of my best trips were months apart from any others.



Interesting anecdote as I have been contemplating stronger doses than previous (4g +) with lower doses (1.5-2.5g) for my next trip. I think strong is where it's at. Lower doses with other intoxicants, perhaps. Oh yes and I had a great thought provoking trip on 3g with a strong cup of coffee on the peak. Until I had the coffee it was all pretty underwhelming, more like 2g trip. Then: Bang into a completely different state of mind and being. Fuck it was awesome for 2 hours...


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Re: If I'm used to high doses, could a low dose trigger an unpleasant experience? [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #27060214 - 11/27/20 01:40 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

So what do you suggest, taking 4g of penis envy this weekend or to wait my last trip was on 2.5g of very weak mushrooms a week ago.
I've never had penis envy and I'm hoping it will blast me past that weirdness of the trip. We're planning on tripping in nature on Sunday. But now I wonder if I should wait. I've been tripping atleast once every 10 days for the last couple of months. But I didn't think that would have been a problem?

Thoughts?


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Re: If I'm used to high doses, could a low dose trigger an unpleasant experience? [Re: TheFourthEyE]
    #27060219 - 11/27/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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So what do you suggest, taking 4g of penis envy this weekend or to wait my last trip was on 2.5g of very weak mushrooms a week ago.
I've never had penis envy and I'm hoping it will blast me past that weirdness of the trip. We're planning on tripping in nature on Sunday. But now I wonder if I should wait. I've been tripping atleast once every 10 days for the last couple of months. But I didn't think that would have been a problem?

Thoughts



everyone is different, especially when it comes to psychedelics, but personally I would never trip that frequently (every-time I did it wasn't worth it). I would say, wait at least another week (longer than that is better for me, but a week isn't a big challenge to wait imo, and if it is then that might indicate a lack of self-control that won't be helpful while tripping)

could be that regular works for you, and I'm just wired differently, but that's my opinion anyhow


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Re: If I'm used to high doses, could a low dose trigger an unpleasant experience? [Re: Ezuma] * 1
    #27060248 - 11/27/20 02:00 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I would advice somewhere between: not 4g of PE, nor 2.5g of weak mushrooms with tolerance. There is no rush with this stuff.


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Re: If I'm used to high doses, could a low dose trigger an unpleasant experience? [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #27060267 - 11/27/20 02:08 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I would advice somewhere between: not 4g of PE, nor 2.5g of weak mushrooms with tolerance. There is no rush with this stuff.




good advice, I think a pitfall I got into was being overly eager, just wanting more and more of the psychedelic experience in my first years of tripping, rather than truly learning from each experience until years later.


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Re: If I'm used to high doses, could a low dose trigger an unpleasant experience? [Re: Ezuma]
    #27060300 - 11/27/20 02:28 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Backflip off of a bridge? I hope you're an accomplished gymnast otherwise you really shouldn't be doing such self destructive things like that.


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Re: If I'm used to high doses, could a low dose trigger an unpleasant experience? [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27060313 - 11/27/20 02:35 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Backflip off of a bridge? I hope you're an accomplished gymnast otherwise you really shouldn't be doing such self destructive things like that.




also good advice, somehow I missed that :lol:

dunno how/why you did that op, the most I can do tripping is stumble around the woods like a dazed sasquatch


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Re: If I'm used to high doses, could a low dose trigger an unpleasant experience? [Re: Ezuma]
    #27060667 - 11/27/20 06:41 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Backflip off of a bridge? I hope you're an accomplished gymnast otherwise you really shouldn't be doing such self destructive things like that.




also good advice, somehow I missed that :lol:

dunno how/why you did that op, the most I can do tripping is stumble around the woods like a dazed sasquatch



Same but like a yawning sasquatch

I've been enjoying mid doses (2.5 to 3.5)of avg shrooms in nature but I think they definitely lack that "dissolve into everything" feeling. Just like other posters, i'd recommend waiting one or two extra weeks in between. Safe trips!!


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Re: If I'm used to high doses, could a low dose trigger an unpleasant experience? [Re: Ezuma]
    #27061020 - 11/28/20 01:27 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

OutsideOfMyMind said:
Backflip off of a bridge? I hope you're an accomplished gymnast otherwise you really shouldn't be doing such self destructive things like that.




also good advice, somehow I missed that :lol:

dunno how/why you did that op, the most I can do tripping is stumble around the woods like a dazed sasquatch



That's interesting. I have always found my coordination as great as ever if not better, after the disorienting comeup of course.


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Re: If I'm used to high doses, could a low dose trigger an unpleasant experience? [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #27061122 - 11/28/20 06:10 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

lol that is strange, but that did happen during the comedown. i was feeling on top of the world after the day at the lake on 5g. i thought nothing could go wrong. boy was i wrong.

when i bent down to make the jump my legs instantly turned to jelly and i fucked the jump up totally, flipping 1 and a half times.

i honestly thought all my skin got ripped off upon impact with the water.

i now constantly have that feeling in my head of "too much information to process
and a fear of heights..

guys everyone has been so helpful, i really appreciate you helping me before i fuck myself up even further.

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