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Big Fruits falling off before veil breaks
    #27059411 - 11/27/20 12:52 AM (2 months, 8 hours ago)

Why did a big fruit fall off of my pf tek cake before the veil even started looking like it might break? I've had smaller ones do it and even had veils break while fruits were still small but this is the first time a big healthy looking one fell off the cake before the veil broke and i harvested it. I was really looking forward to seeing that one continue to grow. At least i got a couple more big ones still going strong so far. Anyone else have this happen? Maybe running my air pump too often? Think I'm gonna set it back to only 4 times a day for an hour each time. The first and second flush did well with that. This is 3rd flush and i upped my fae with my pump times and have misted a lil more to keep them around 90% humidity but also allowing for evaporation. Thanks for any thoughts on this





One of those two had what looked like a tiny second cap coming out of the top of the bigger cap. Lol


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Re: Big Fruits falling off before veil breaks [Re: Domented]
    #27059565 - 11/27/20 03:54 AM (2 months, 5 hours ago)

gravity?


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Re: Big Fruits falling off before veil breaks [Re: Haywire]
    #27059656 - 11/27/20 07:45 AM (2 months, 2 hours ago)

That's what I'm guessing but was hoping there was another explanation cause i wanted to see that one get even bigger than it was. Lol. Oh well. It happens and others are still going.The cap actually opened up over night. I left it for a bit cause i had a few more to harvest and it was still very partially connected but i am drying some now. Most likely have more ready to harvest by end of today i bet too


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Re: Big Fruits falling off before veil breaks [Re: Domented]
    #27059660 - 11/27/20 07:47 AM (2 months, 2 hours ago)

At least it was just the one


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Re: Big Fruits falling off before veil breaks [Re: Domented]
    #27060005 - 11/27/20 01:09 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

What variety are you growing? I’ve had some that tenaciously hold on to the substrate, but others that pop off with the slightest touch. The latter are great for harvesting, but I imagine they could fall off cakes.


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Re: Big Fruits falling off before veil breaks [Re: RoscoeReturns]
    #27060015 - 11/27/20 01:14 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

The b+


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Re: Big Fruits falling off before veil breaks [Re: Domented]
    #27060032 - 11/27/20 01:21 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

Eventually i plan to do a sgfc but for now this way works best for me. I don't really have a place to put it where it would get enough air fae. The one's fc's i got my cakes in now i can put in an inconspicuous spot with lights on timers and air pumps on timers. I think they would do better with a sgfc though but my first harvest off these cakes was over 28g cracker dry before I dunked them for another round so not too bad i don't think for my first try.


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Re: Big Fruits falling off before veil breaks [Re: Domented]
    #27060045 - 11/27/20 01:29 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

Plus the one that fell off was growing off the side and from base to tip over the size of a half dollar coin easy. Lmfao. Had to throw in the base to tip cause it fell before breaking veil. 😂😂 So possibly gravity but most have been attached to the cake pretty well so just not sure what happened with that one since it seemed good and healthy


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Re: Big Fruits falling off before veil breaks [Re: Domented]
    #27060054 - 11/27/20 01:34 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

Also, it was probably 4 to 6 inches long. Just to give all the details of this one mushie


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Re: Big Fruits falling off before veil breaks [Re: Domented]
    #27060055 - 11/27/20 01:35 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

Sorry i wrote a book in this thread but any thoughts?


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Re: Big Fruits falling off before veil breaks [Re: Domented]
    #27060287 - 11/27/20 04:22 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

Gravity or you bumped it. Without picks we can only assume its not cause of mold or something like that.

You shouldn't need an air pump for one tub, but sounds like you're already switching it up so I dont wanna beat a dead horse.

I dont think anyone can really help with scheduling air/misting for your homes conditions. A dialed in tub has constant passive fae and misting is as needed when dry(pics would help guage where you're at). Theres some links for those in the tek list stickied at top of forum.


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Re: Big Fruits falling off before veil breaks [Re: LtLurker] * 1
    #27060318 - 11/27/20 04:37 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

I just harvested and have them in dunk right now. I'm kinda Wondering if i didn't let them stay dunked for long enough to recoup the water loss from my first harvest. These are my very first set of cakes. I had 8 but one was getting a green spot before i ever birthed it so i just put that one out in a planter outside. Didn't want to take any chances of contaminating any of the other cakes when i birthed, dunked and rolled my others for fruiting. I'm still learning. I appreciate the help and will try to get some pics next time. I don't think y'all want pics of them dunking as they are covered to push them under water a lil. Also I am new to this site so I'm also still trying to process how to work and find things i have questions to on the site without asking so much. I just finally figured out how to get an avatar up. Lmao. Everyone has been really helpful and i appreciate it


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Re: Big Fruits falling off before veil breaks [Re: Domented]
    #27060327 - 11/27/20 04:41 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

Also, apparently I've been posting with a heart icon. Guess that's just what it was set on. Lol. Slowly but surely I'm learning to use this site. I've read so much on here even before I became a member. Lots and lots of knowledge and different opinions for sure. 😁 Thanks again everyone


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Re: Big Fruits falling off before veil breaks [Re: Domented] * 1
    #27060374 - 11/27/20 05:07 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

I don't have many pics from when i very first started and it isn't even close to everything that came off the first harvest but I'll try to figure out how to post a couple pics from then. Has nothing to do with the one that fell as was asked about in my initial question but here it goes on trying to send a few pics from the first ones. This has been a learning experience and experiment this first go round till i find what works best for me







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Re: Big Fruits falling off before veil breaks [Re: Domented]
    #27060382 - 11/27/20 05:10 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

There are more under that top tray and i also dried 2 more trays before that. Those are from my first harvest ever


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Re: Big Fruits falling off before veil breaks [Re: Domented]
    #27060389 - 11/27/20 05:13 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

First time so don't be too hard on me. Lol. They were pretty good though. Especially for being a virgin at it. 🤣🤣


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Re: Big Fruits falling off before veil breaks [Re: Domented]
    #27060479 - 11/27/20 06:12 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

They look happy, I wouldnt change much from whatever you're doing until you make a full chamber change.

You even got some leucistics pop up on your first grow. It looks good dude.

Something that'll matter more in a different chamber and don't really need to worry about now. cake foil could be trimmed much tighter, and usually cakes like being close together.


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Re: Big Fruits falling off before veil breaks [Re: LtLurker]
    #27060493 - 11/27/20 06:19 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

Thank you for the info. What does cakes being close together help with? Like if i had enough to pack together to make like a more solid top for them to fruit and also probably helps keep moisture longer I'm guessing. Also thanks for the compliment on my first go at it. I appreciate all the feedback. I'm learning though. 🤪😁


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Re: Big Fruits falling off before veil breaks [Re: Domented]
    #27060504 - 11/27/20 06:24 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

Pretty much. Its called a micro climate, basically the sides being close helps make a nice pocket of humidity/evap that they really like. If you've seen people talk about reducing side pins in tubs, its the same principle.


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Re: Big Fruits falling off before veil breaks [Re: LtLurker]
    #27060510 - 11/27/20 06:29 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

Awesome. I'll give it a try sometime soon. Would you want them touching each other or like a half inch or something between them? How close is too close in other words? If there is such a thing. I'll have to look it up and read into it more also


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