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skOsH
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lucid dreaming
#27054022 - 11/23/20 02:08 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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This may be in the correct sub forum, maybe not. Feel free to move it.
Anyone got tips on how to enter lucid dreaming state more easily? I feel like my dreams are always lucid but I don't remember them in the moment with much detail
Any tips to make them more vivid? I know the three main types of lucid dreaming. Lately I have been trying to listen to rain through a speaker. Does...something.
I tried drinking 4oz of coca cola an hour before bedtime. That sort of worked, but not really.
I try to look at my hands in my dreams but half the time I can't due to my dreams being really chaotic
Anyone have good experience facilitating a lucid dream whenever they want, and how do you go about doing it?
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Re: lucid dreaming [Re: skOsH]
#27057709 - 11/25/20 07:38 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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drinking Coca Cola is not going to help. try fasting and eating vegan
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Re: lucid dreaming [Re: Buckthorn] 1
#27059217 - 11/26/20 07:49 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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You don't need to change your diet. There are a few tried and true methods to increasing the likelihood of lucid dreams.
Most important are reality checks, keeping a dream journal, and getting up for a short time at night and going back to sleep. You want to be checking reality throughout the day - best way to do this is to just ask yourself "am I dreaming right now?" and flick a light switch on and off - in a dream, you cannot get lights to turn on most of the time when you flip a switch, so the idea is to do this so routinely that you end up doing it in your dream and realize that you are dreaming.
Looking at your hands is also a decent way to reality check. You could write a letter on your hand in marker and consciously decide to look at it through the day so that when you do it in your dream you notice that the letter isn't there.
Another method is to visualize an object in your mind as you get ready for sleep with the intention of encountering this object in your dream and thus remind you that you are dreaming. This never worked great for me but Stephen Laberge, master of lucid dreaming, suggests it.
Keeping a dream journal is important because it sends a subconscious message to your brain that dreaming is important to you. Write about your dreams in as much detail as possible - the colors in your dream, the emotions, the thoughts, the actions and the people, etc. If you keep up this practice, your dreams should become longer and more vivid (they don't actually become longer, you just remember more detail upon awakening) - you will actually get to a point where you remember so much that you are remembering several transitions between dreams which is cool because it's so strange how the quality of your dreams morphs and shifts between them.
And then, you're going to want to get up for like 20-30 minutes every night - get some water, write down your dreams, maybe do some meditation and then go back to bed and you'll be much more likely to have vivid dreams and thus a better chance to get so vivid you become lucid.
Once in a lucid dream there are a few ways to keep from getting too chaotic and waking up. Obviously, you want to not get overexcited. If the dream starts fading fast, you can spin your dream body around a few times which is a good way to stay grounded in the dream, or you can state "increase lucidity now!". I'm sure you can find other methods but these are the ones I've used and have seen highly recommended. Be humble in the dream world and examine your surroundings without trying to make anything supernatural happen at first.
You say that your dreams are always lucid but you don't remember them much after. It sounds like your dreams are possibly very vivid and your mind is present but you might not be becoming actually lucid. There are degrees of lucidity of course, but there's a big difference between watching a dream mindfully as it happens and actually having full waking life awareness while in a dream and be able to explore a dream world and engaging with dream objects/dream characters fully knowing that they are aspects of your mind.
Also, intention. The stronger and more pure your intention, the greater chance you'll have of becoming totally lucid. This means as you fall asleep at night, repeating your intention in your mind that you wish to lucid dream tonight, that you wish to realize you are dreaming and explore the dream world. You can do this for a few minutes or for much longer. The more you think about lucid dreaming the likelier it is to happen.
It might seem like a lot of work but it's really only a few things.
Finally, if you want to take something that increases the vividness of dreams, I hear that melatonin is very useful.
I never used it - I found Calea Zacatechichi (AKA "mexican dream herb") to make my dreams very vivid and more conducive to lucid dreaming. If you get it, I would be careful not to smoke more than a few bowls worth as it is pretty strong stuff in higher doses.
Good luck! 
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Edited by EternalCowabunga (11/26/20 07:52 PM)
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do not eat anything past 5pm your digestive system will prevent your mind from getting deep sleep if it is trying to process foods/caffeine/sugar unless lucid sleep is before REM sleep
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I'm just waking up from my dreams these days and feeling super stressed
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ya me too I miss the fun lucid flying dreams!
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I have an ongoing thread about this titled "does cannabis ever trigger lucid dreams for you" you might find interesting.
When it comes to reality checks, I find that doing the same thing every time (like looking at your hands) is less effective than focusing on the many differences between being awake and being in a dream. I had an all night series of lucid dreams last night and never once looked at my hands or did a proper reality check, I've trained myself to just kind of know the difference in how it feels if that makes sense.
Based on last night and the few other all-night lucid dream episodes I've had, alcohol may be a trigger, at least for me.
edit: and a little update, alcohol is a very consistent way to improve dream recall for me. Stops working if you're drinking daily but ever once in a while its like KERPOW
Edited by Psilosopherr (11/14/21 10:35 PM)
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Calea Zacatechichi and melatonin.
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Galantamine!
Here's an entry from my journal when I was experimenting with this stuff:
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I’ve been doing more experimentation with this substance, usually on Sat and Sun mornings when I don’t have to be up too early. My findings so far are that timing is key – from ones bed time to what time one wakes up and doses, to how long one stays awake.
The most successful formula I’ve hit upon is bedtime around 2:30 am. Take 600 mg of alpha gpc (choline) and 200 mg of 5-htp for REM rebound.
Wake after 4 hours sleep and take 16 mg Galantamine and another 600 mg of alpha GPC and a tablet of high strength vitamin B. The one I’m using has 714 times the RDA of B6, so pretty high. The B vitamin might be unneeded, but there’s a lot of research showing that B6 increases both dream recall and vividity.
It should be noted that I regularly go to sleep around 2:30-3am, so other people might have to find the right places within their own circadian rhythm – this is what works for me.
I also take Piracetam after the Lucid Dreams to counter the effects of the Galatamine – I’ve read this stops tolerance building.
At first the 16 mg Galantamine was too much, but taking it at the correct time within the sleep cycle (and perhaps a certain familiarity with its effects at this dose) ensures it doesn’t affect getting back to sleep.
I have been using a mind machine over the past week (a Laxman), and using it while meditating, this might explain the lucidity and control felt in this morning’s experiments.
On taking the Galantamine this morning, I did a breath based meditation, which led me into sleep. Also, when going to sleep last night, I set the intent to have an OBE or a Lucid Dream while also doing a breath based meditation.
The Lucid Dreams themselves were just phenomenal. They started off a bit hazy and perhaps driven by base desire (a link with the initial low lucidity?) but after utilising a tactile based reinforcement technique (stamping my feet and clapping my hands hard) they quickly turned into experiences in which I had full emotional and tactile sensation. At one point I tasted a bit of card, and I could feel its glossy texture on my tongue. It was pretty amazing.
The characters I interacted with in the LDs seemed fully aware and capable of deep conversation.
I experienced no sleep paralysis just LD after LD, after false awakening, after LD. I actually didn’t know how to wake up! I’ve never experienced anything like this before, usually LDs don’t last long and one tries to extend them, but I felt like I’d been in the LDs for hours and I couldn’t wake up. I physically felt apprehension for a short while and went and spoke to one of the LD characters near me at the time about this.
Not long after this I woke up very groggy, and asked my wife if I was awake, I then stumbled to the window and opened it, and climbed onto the sill. She was shouting that I was awake and to get away from the window. Waves were crashing below, which should have told me that I was still in a LD. She pulled me from the window and back into bed. Not long after I managed to force myself awake. I think the hazy nature was because I was near waking, so neither reality or the LD environment had complete grasp of my senses.
During the LDs I seemed to have complete control. At one point I wanted to visit my daughter, and I found myself in a locale which was touched with her presence. It looked more child-like. I found her and picked her up and walked with her for a while.
After some time we found ourselves in a narrow passage, flanked on each side by tall, old stone brick walls. Trees were overhead, and I sensed we were in a countryside locale. At one end of the passage was an unkempt looking youth, at the other a fox like beast.
The youth was telling me the beast was dangerous and I should stay away. I next seemed to be infused with knowledge of the situation, I flew up to get a view of the area I was in, and was experiencing an influx of knowledge. The people the youth belong to had taken some of the fox like beasts ancestors into captivity and bred them with other creatures. They had created a troll like form of the fox creature and now there was animosity on both sides.
Other experiences included flying military style helicopters while shouting with glee as I swooped at high speed across a green countryside landscape. I was talking to other people in nearby helicopters joining me in this game.
I had quite a few experiences of speaking to people I know in RL, they were highly articulate, and we could have full conversations. But they didn’t recognise me. It was interesting to note the expressions moving across their face as they tried to work out who I was.
Most of the experiences were bright and good. A couple were dark - interestingly, it was when I entered dark rooms that I felt any negative presence, or felt constrained by an negative entity. But having such a degree of lucidity, I easily escaped these situations.
And here's a link to a study which shows its effectiveness:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6082533/
Edited by misterjingo (01/16/21 05:22 PM)
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All amazing answers! Thank you 
@Eternal
I think my dreams are vivid, but not amazingly lucid
Also, as you mentioned, I feel like I am "watching" my lucid dreams like a movie and I just let them play out
@lostintime
Is that the herb that enhances lucid dreams?
Also the coca cola method is a real tek, it's just weird. Can also be done with just a tiny amount of caffeine.
Edited by skOsH (01/17/21 01:56 PM)
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Re: lucid dreaming [Re: skOsH]
#27162383 - 01/21/21 09:00 PM (3 years, 25 days ago) |
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Recently for me, taking a standard 50MG dose of over the counter Benadryl and 1mg of Melatonin can cause me to have really lucid dreams and even sometimes some pretty scary sleep paralyses.
It really helps me fall asleep but I feel like with the Benadryl I wake up more often for whatever reason.
The "reality check" and dream journal are tried and true methods.
There is also something no one mentioned I don't think... Set your alarm an hour early, then for it to go off every 10 minutes. It's easy to enter lucid state when you wake up and intentionally go back to sleep, wake up again and back to sleep... repeat 6x. I've been able to lucid dream like this with success, being able to go right back into a dream I was already in, except this time have control over it.
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Re: lucid dreaming [Re: skOsH]
#27227390 - 02/26/21 11:20 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I listen to white noise through my earphones when sleeping at night. I feel like I've done this for so long that I wouldn't be able to sleep without it, unless I lived alone. I also have white noise playing on the computer speakers pretty much 24/7. I used to listen to music a lot, but probably around a year ago, I started listening to white noise... There's a 10-hour long video of white noise on Youtube which I downloaded using a website I found by googling "download youtube videos". There are a lot of videos of white noise and other similar noises on Youtube so you might have to search through them for a while to find the one that you like best, and feel that you can listen to for long periods of time without getting annoyed or bored. Oh yeah... and last night, I had one of the most lucid/vivid dreams I've ever had. I was literally telling people in the dream that I was asleep! lol
This is the white noise video that I downloaded and listen to 24/7. It's the best one I've found, and possibly the best one on Youtube, it has over 55 million views. (Also, this downloader worked for me; just click on Download next to 480p (mp4))
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Re: lucid dreaming [Re: skOsH]
#27626302 - 01/20/22 08:02 PM (2 years, 26 days ago) |
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Ascending prime numbers for three hours
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