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starbones
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Re: Keep getting infected tubs with trich, what am I doing wrong? [Re: Ucucu] 1
#27061606 - 11/28/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Found your problem. No jar with healthy LC or proper grain prep should require a couple weeks. That jar is super fucking wet and I can't believe you're not smelling things are being off if that's what your jars are looking like. See how your myc is "walling off" on the grains? The spawns bacterial, heavily so. Myc should not form a straight border when colonizing.
If I said you're also incubating your jars would I be off base? Excessive moisture + high temperature gives bacteria the edge and myc will lost every single time.
Revisit your spawn prep, especially if you're using LC try on the dryer side. Go do bods oat prep with some oats. Are you SURE your LC is clean? You don't have any hidden bacteria in there?. Healthy myc colonizing at 68f will outpace any jar at ~80f like most incubating types try to do for the reason that those ~80f jars are being slowed down by bacteria, unless the jars are absolutely perfect.
Make sure you're using your PC right as well.
Here is what you need to do in your current situation:
Doublecheck your inoculant. Make sure your LC is clean. If in doubt toss it.
Prepare your spawn on the dryer side of things. It will look too dry to you but follow bods tek for oat spawn on oats or just let your wheat dry longer. LC will add moisture. Wet is bad. Shake your jars after they cool off to get the moisture off the bottom.
Use your PC properly. If you have an actual PC capable of 15psi then ensure you're venting it for 10 minutes before you put the weight on. 10 minutes of full on steam pissing out the hole. Once the steam-stream is solid then time your 10 minutes. Don't take shortcuts here. Give it a full 2 hours at 15 PSI. Some do 90, you should do two.
Consider a different filter when using LC, polyfil seems like it has wicking protentional to me. I can't remember specifically but I thought in yonder years people had issues with moisture in jars getting on it, then bacteria being able to bridge from one side to the other via the moisture. It's not my favorite but consider using two layers of MP tape. Find some beading felt or "EZ felt" It's polyfil that's been flattened with heat and pressure and goes on the outside of the jar only. Or invest in some SFDs.
Improve your inoculating. Are you using a SAB or Flowhood? Doublecheck your sterile technique, flame that needle before it goes into your LC and flame it before it goes through each and every SHIP. Wear a mask, take a shower first. Everything helps.
Err on the side of caution, keep colonizing temps below 70. Assume at every point your jars are fucked from the get go and don't give the contaminates an environment to thrive.
What I'm trying to say is to go back to formula, go back to the beginning and start from scratch with what you're doing. Err on the side of caution and assume anything you are doing is going to fuck your jar. If your LC is healthy and clean and your spawn prep is right then your jars should be done in 7-14 days, I'd be wary of one that took 14 days though when using a good LC.
Sorry brochacho.
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Edited by starbones (11/28/20 04:23 PM)
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Ucucu
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Re: Keep getting infected tubs with trich, what am I doing wrong? [Re: bodhisatta]
#27061824 - 11/28/20 03:36 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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bodhisatta said: That jar is FUCKED
Because it's chunky?
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Re: Keep getting infected tubs with trich, what am I doing wrong? [Re: Ucucu]
#27061848 - 11/28/20 04:10 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dude, read Star's response...
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Re: Keep getting infected tubs with trich, what am I doing wrong? [Re: Pearl]
#27061902 - 11/28/20 04:47 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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As well as this. How it should & shouldn't look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
Bright white, water condensing on the inside of the jar in controlled temps or if the myc looks like thick white lava spreading instead of tree roots is sure sign your cube myc is not healthy.
That jar is checking all the box's on that checklist.
I don't even bother holding up a tub or wasting coir if my jars are showing these signs.
There will be trich before primordia, at pins, or a plaster blob fest with a few mushrooms poking out by the time trich takes hold and body snatches your grow. 
I now people love there ugly children but as far as mushrooms go, they wont grow up to thank you for it.
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Re: Keep getting infected tubs with trich, what am I doing wrong? [Re: R.I.P.Zappa]
#27062231 - 11/28/20 10:15 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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starbones said: Found your problem. No jar with healthy LC or proper grain prep should require a couple weeks.
Thanks!!!!
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R.I.P.Zappa said: As well as this.
Thanks, I'll review it all.
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Re: Keep getting infected tubs with trich, what am I doing wrong? [Re: Ucucu]
#27062247 - 11/28/20 10:43 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey so im not gonna post this on the thread you started because I'll get hammered with people that talk but don't try themselves
So I tried growing bulk from.grain to coir for 3 years and OVER AND OVER AND OVER I would get trich, I KNOW.my grain was clean and fully colonozed, every time
And people will say coir can't contaminate on its own so they stop you there and don't try to figure out whats going on because no one will beleive your grain was clean and colonozed.
I've used straight coir nothing else and it still contaminated.
If you have it figured out koo,
If you would like me to take the time to give you my.grow method that I created based around fighting hard-core contamination hit.me up.
I'm on telegram "kkvguitarist"
I've been gro9wing for about 8 years now and I make flowhoods for people and grow about 12 varieties of cubensis, lionsmane, oyster, and panaleous cyanascens.
Your going to get ALOOOOT of ppl on shroomery that like to message, read, and regurgitate.
I only like really talking with people that are clearly actually doing the work and learning things first hand vs second hand
Message me.on telegram cause I don't check these messages super often
This is my grow
https://files.shroomery.org/files/20-48/662853485-IMG_20201128_121150_953.jpg
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Re: Keep getting infected tubs with trich, what am I doing wrong? [Re: KKVguitarist]
#27062499 - 11/29/20 07:22 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you have to help people in private there's something wrong.
It really looks like you're just trying to sell people your overpriced stuff. And maybe a picture of your grow with the grow part lol.
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Failboat
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Re: Keep getting infected tubs with trich, what am I doing wrong? [Re: bodhisatta]
#27062505 - 11/29/20 07:25 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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That guy's been sketchy as fuck today with his contact requests like this.
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Failboat
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Re: Keep getting infected tubs with trich, what am I doing wrong? [Re: Failboat]
#27062507 - 11/29/20 07:26 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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OP, I bet $1 you've been skipping the venting. That's what tripped me up for years 
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Re: Keep getting infected tubs with trich, what am I doing wrong? [Re: Failboat]
#27062508 - 11/29/20 07:28 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Quirkmeister92 said: That guy's been sketchy as fuck today with his contact requests like this.
He's close to a PM ban
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