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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Psion] 1
#27057999 - 11/26/20 12:20 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Psion said: except all states do get a voice in the decision. equal voices. you don't think it's equal?
No. That’s what you said.
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well maybe your state shouldn't suck so bad that you can't attract a population worth shit.
why are you trying to get personal?
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it's not california's fault that georgia can't get it's act together.it's not new york's fault that florida can't clean up it's act. you make your state attractive and people move there. you enact policies that uplift people and you naturally gain a higher population, which means more voters. it's simple logistics.
this has nothing to do with the conversation.
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there's no need for an "electoral collage".
yes there is. Are you not reading what I wrote?
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we already have a entire branch of power dedicated to this,
yes. It’s called the electoral college.
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we do not need a second (the president) chosen this way as well.
yes, we do.
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it's unnecessarily complicated. one voter, one vote. it's even more illogical in these times when people drive dozens of miles to work, some people FLY hundreds of miles to work, and many people remote work across the country. state boundaries are increasingly irreverent in our interconnected world. one voter, one vote.
This has nothing to do with anything related to the electoral college.
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there is nothing more fair than this.
You have no clue what you’re talking about.
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each person should have an equal voice.
and they do. It’s called the electoral college.
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america is not made up of states.
yes, it is. Fifty of them.
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it's made up of people.
That live in states.
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the heart of any country is not it's land, but the citizens that reside upon it.
Emotional diatribes tend to have no logic behind them. This one is no exception.
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Re: Biden isn't taking your errwits away but he's taking your 46 way. [Re: Psion]
#27058006 - 11/26/20 12:30 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Way listen up .
Nothing matters anyways what those goof heads in office are doing.
Anyone of you political flowers is going to get burnt down right now, because politics holds no bearing on the people.
Only the people will decide who lives, and who dies. That is what is at stake here.
I am just worried that the so called "vaccine" is going to contain some sort of DNA stringer etc that basically makes you the governments bitch.
Like, once you get the virus inoculation you are under their control ...
And the threat would be fear of life.
Thoughts? Ideas?
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Re: Biden isn't taking your errwits away but he's taking your 46 way. [Re: Fiery]
#27058011 - 11/26/20 12:38 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fiery said: Way listen up .
Nothing matters anyways what those goof heads in office are doing.
Anyone of you political flowers is going to get burnt down right now, because politics holds no bearing on the people.
Only the people will decide who lives, and who dies. That is what is at stake here.
I am just worried that the so called "vaccine" is going to contain some sort of DNA stringer etc that basically makes you the governments bitch.
Like, once you get the virus inoculation you are under their control ...
And the threat would be fear of life.
Thoughts? Ideas?
thats not how DNA works. at all.
and the government doesn't need any stupid vaccine to make you their bitch. they have propaganda and fearmongering, fox news and "fake news!" for that. why spend billions and billions on "vaccine that's really dna gene modification" (that doesn't exist yet in humans other than in vitro) when you can MAKE money on spreading lies and fear, making up whatever truthisms you want?
people clearly are guillible enough to buy whatever you tell them to, regardless of science, hook line and sinker.
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Re: Biden isn't taking your errwits away but he's taking your 46 way. [Re: Psion]
#27058015 - 11/26/20 12:44 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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True but the answer is in your question.
The result is war. It's a bloody truth the world is going to war. I don't know when or how it will happen but it's going to get ugly.
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Re: Biden isn't taking your errwits away but he's taking your 46 way. [Re: Fiery]
#27058019 - 11/26/20 12:51 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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probably, but leave the damn vaccine out of it. spreading misinformation and distrust about basic science is one of the big CAUSES of war. don't be one of the contributors.
jerk.
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Re: Biden isn't faking it. He's the President. [Re: Psion]
#27058023 - 11/26/20 12:54 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is where I exit the conversation and point out that you are pro vaccine .
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Re: Biden isn't faking it. He's the President. [Re: Fiery] 1
#27058026 - 11/26/20 12:58 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fiery said: This is where I exit the conversation and point out that you are pro vaccine .
i am pro-science and reason. vaccines thoroughly tested for safety and efficacy before being administered to the general public, and are thus proven to be safe and effective. therefore, i am pro-vaccine. if there is a vaccine that is not proven to be thus, i am not for said vaccine.
it's as simple as that, and should always be as simple as that. look at the data, use your head, and reason it out.
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Re: Biden isn't faking it. He's the President. [Re: Psion] 1
#27058027 - 11/26/20 01:00 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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also, i am anti-covid, anti-malaria, anti-bubonic plague, anti-chicken pox, anti-measles, anti-tuberculosis, anti-rabies, and a host of other deadly and/or miserable diseases vaccines have saved us from, so there's that.
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Re: Biden isn't faking it. He's the President. [Re: Psion]
#27058028 - 11/26/20 01:02 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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just thought i would make sure to post that to make public any possible biases i might have, in the pursuit of neutrality.
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Re: Biden isn't faking it. He's the President. [Re: Psion]
#27058030 - 11/26/20 01:04 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I say we vaccinate the poor, and give them housing, and make the wretched and broken like the rich and famous. Then ask me about some scientific study that you believe to be true, only because billions of money went into it. And go ahead and let the so called scientists infect that baby DNA into your blood.
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Re: Biden isn't faking it. He's the President. [Re: Fiery]
#27058039 - 11/26/20 01:18 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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so basically, you have no idea of how science works.
ill give you a hint: most scientists don't make billions of dollars.
in fact, a lot of scientists do research on their own dime. for free. or out of their own money, because they actually care about making the world a better place.
(what the heck is a baby DNA anyways?)
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Re: Biden isn't faking it. He's the President. [Re: Psion]
#27058040 - 11/26/20 01:20 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Most un educated people like me think that vaccines derive DNA strands from unborn fetus DNA.
There is a huge market for that stuff on the medical page.
Are you saying you know what that vaccine contains?
Please describe to me the exact ingredients and their derivatives and sources.
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Re: Biden isn't faking it. He's the President. [Re: Fiery]
#27058068 - 11/26/20 02:14 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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each vaccines going to contain different exact ingredients, naturally. a polio vaccine's not going to have the same ingredients as a tuberculosis vaccine, and even two different vaccines for the same virus may be different, due to different methods used. (live but weak cousin of deadly virus vs dead pieces of virus vs RNA that provokes immune response to build antibodies against virus)
some vaccines are produced via chicken eggs - the fertilized chicken eggs are infected with the virus, allowed to host the disease for a few days, then the virus-filled fluid harvested, purified, and the virus deactivated and used for the vaccine. this is where we get our flu vaccines every year, among a few others - and this is why people with egg allergies cant get the common flu shot and have to get a different form of it. not all viruses, including COVID, infect chicken eggs though, so this isn't a viable method for all viruses. two of the new vaccines that passed phase 3 trials though, Pfizer and Moderna, use mRNA methods, which are promising but new technology - they're basically a way to quickly tailor new vaccines and tell the body "hey theres a new baddy in town, kill this baddy", and it seems effective, but so far we don't know what, if any, long term side effects there are. we do know there seems to be some unpleasant short term side effects of the vaccine - fatigue, headaches, low grade fever for a day or so - but that's fairly typical for a vaccine anyways, and not a big deal compared to the alternative of doing nothing. the real question is if there's going to be any long term effects from this new method. if there is... crap. if not, however... holy shit we probably just found the most amazing tool to fighting viruses. EVER.
time will tell on this one, and unfortunately, necessity drove us to not being able to play it safe with testing. ideally, there would have been years and years of testing this method of mRNA vaccination on high risk groups that would have been likely to die of deadly diseases anyways, not using on the general populace because they were collectively too stubborn to wear a freaking mask for half an hour to grocery shop.
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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: lowbrow] 2
#27058072 - 11/26/20 02:19 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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psi said: Except people who vote against the majority in their state, their vote counts as a vote for the person they voted against. Except in the two states that don't do that.
Deciding based on the popular vote would be allowing everyone an equal voice, regardless of where in the country they're located.
No. It would not. It would allow a majority of people to dictate to the rest of the country and it would destroy the voice of others. At that point even having an election would be a joke if it was always decided by the biggest cities. America is not a democracy, it is a republic.
Maybe I spoke too soon about absolutely moronic takes in this thread.
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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#27058097 - 11/26/20 02:58 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think it should be 20 an hour.
20$ an hour . . . Ye you fucktard Here its 1$ and 30c if your lucky
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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Geinstein]
#27058099 - 11/26/20 03:04 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Jesus fuck this thread is a Fucken Joke Take a hand full of mushes take a few hits and Fucken chill, those two brain cells are overheating America has been doomed from early 2000s
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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Geinstein] 1
#27058101 - 11/26/20 03:08 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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20$ an hour . . . Ye you fucktard Here its 1$ and 30c if your lucky
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Geinstein said: Jesus fuck this thread is a Fucken Joke Take a hand full of mushes take a few hits and Fucken chill, those two brain cells are overheating America has been doomed from early 2000s
Slow your roll there, west coast, with all the explicates. Imagine if people working at Mc Donalds made $20 an hour, would they then be able to afford decent living and children? Would it be OK to bring some people out of poverty?
Every bite of this applewood smoked turkey leg I'm going to eat will remind me of how lucky I am to even be able to breath, let alone have family.
Can't we give every one the same chance? If the poor got money, maybe they would help us clean up the earth? Can't we clean it up right now!?
Not many people are trying to clean up the earth, but let's hope Joe Biden teams up with the world to clean this mess up.
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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Fiery]
#27058107 - 11/26/20 03:20 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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20$ an hour . . . Ye you fucktard Here its 1$ and 30c if your lucky
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Geinstein said: Jesus fuck this thread is a Fucken Joke Take a hand full of mushes take a few hits and Fucken chill, those two brain cells are overheating America has been doomed from early 2000s
Slow your roll there, west coast, with all the explicates. Imagine if people working at Mc Donalds made $20 an hour, would they then be able to afford decent living and children? Would it be OK to bring some people out of poverty?
Every bite of this applewood smoked turkey leg I'm going to eat will remind me of how lucky I am to even be able to breath, let alone have family.
Can't we give every one the same chance? If the poor got money, maybe they would help us clean up the earth? Can't we clean it up right now!?
Not many people are trying to clean up the earth, but let's hope Joe Biden teams up with the world to clean this mess up.
I hope they clean you up, it'll at least bring the average IQ up a little higher then room temp(and for your miserable half a brain cell ego that'll be in Celsius fucktard)
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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: jewunit]
#27058246 - 11/26/20 08:11 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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psi said: Except people who vote against the majority in their state, their vote counts as a vote for the person they voted against. Except in the two states that don't do that.
Deciding based on the popular vote would be allowing everyone an equal voice, regardless of where in the country they're located.
No. It would not. It would allow a majority of people to dictate to the rest of the country and it would destroy the voice of others. At that point even having an election would be a joke if it was always decided by the biggest cities. America is not a democracy, it is a republic.
Maybe I spoke too soon about absolutely moronic takes in this thread.
Who you talking to?
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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Geinstein] 1
#27058921 - 11/26/20 03:34 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Calm down MENSAstein. Are you zinging me or something? Where is "here" and who the fuck gets 1.30 an hour theses days. My first job (taco bell) was about 3.25 I think and that was 82-83. I think waiters were getting 1.50 but I'm not sure. Gas could stay fixed at 1.00 a gallon and they'd still be billionaires. Greed is killing the planet.
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