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Offlinemacc1234
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looking around my yard a little, found this. what is it guys
    #2705790 - 05/20/04 03:09 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)









ok, no blueing reaction so i know it's not active
found: southwest ohio, in lawn
Stem: hollow, tears easily, wraps around finger without snapping
cap: about a 1/2 inch, not mature
viel: absent
Gills: brown

spore print: black to very deep brown


Edited by macc1234 (05/20/04 03:53 PM)


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Re: looking around my yard a little, found this. what is it guys [Re: macc1234]
    #2706033 - 05/20/04 03:57 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Panilonia Foencii(sp?)


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Re: looking around my yard a little, found this. what is it guys [Re: macc1234]
    #2706048 - 05/20/04 03:59 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Pan Foen


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Re: looking around my yard a little, found this. what is it guys [Re: fliped]
    #2706052 - 05/20/04 03:59 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

They look like pan subbs to me.
I can almost never get my subbs to blue either.


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Re: looking around my yard a little, found this. what is it guys [Re: pfshroomer]
    #2706060 - 05/20/04 04:00 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

any definite way for me to determine which one it is? pan foe or pan subb?


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Re: looking around my yard a little, found this. what is it guys [Re: ShaDeShroomz]
    #2706076 - 05/20/04 04:03 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

sha... in the post right above this one you id'ed his as pan foens too... mine have dark gills, the other guy has white gilled mushrooms...


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Re: looking around my yard a little, found this. what is it guys [Re: macc1234]
    #2706096 - 05/20/04 04:06 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

If it drops a jet black spore print it could be a sub but the stem just looks to thin to me and he said he could wrap the stem around his finge with out it breaking and if i am not mistaken subs stems usually will break if you try to wrap it around your finger.

I still think it is panilonia Foens..

But i could very easily be wrong since i am still learning a lot so wait for other opinions before you just give up on it!

PEACE


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Re: looking around my yard a little, found this. what is it guys [Re: fliped]
    #2706174 - 05/20/04 04:16 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

if it is pan subb, then i've got some picking to do. i'm waiting on one of the mods to give me an id.


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Re: looking around my yard a little, found this. what is it guys [Re: fliped]
    #2706196 - 05/20/04 04:22 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

definately Paneolina foenisecci
ill give you a little tiparoo maybe you can use.

those mottled reddish brown gills.
pan sub tends to have darker gills when mature. also, in paneolina, the cap surface tends to be more ribbed, sorta like fine lines that run outward from the center. pan subb tends to be smoother by the time it reaches maturity, thogh this is not nessisarily true all the time.

also the margin of the cap is usually a bit more uniform on a pan subb and incurved as well, once again, not a definate difference. however an incurved margin on a mature speceis would eliminate paneolina.

generally if it grows on a lawn and isnt obviously a pan subb, you can pretty much assume that it is not.

another tip i find is useful is that pan subb gills usually (but not always) run straight into the cap margin where panaeolina gills hang lower and curve upwards towards the cap margin

after a while you can tell just by looking, it would be far more simple to show you in person. the descriptions are hard when you havent personally handled both species.

go to a stable shaving heap and find some pan subbs, youll see they really arent very simmilar


Edited by Mitchnast (05/20/04 04:29 PM)


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Re: looking around my yard a little, found this. what is it guys [Re: macc1234]
    #2706206 - 05/20/04 04:24 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Please pick and carefully dry a specimen or two and give me a private message for an address to ship to.

It would be very helpful for me.


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Re: looking around my yard a little, found this. what is it guys [Re: Mitchnast]
    #2706222 - 05/20/04 04:27 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

thanks man!

pan foen it is. oh well.

Off to my moms barn!


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