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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: How Secure Is Tor And The Darknet As Of 2020? [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
    #27057367 - 11/25/20 04:15 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

The difference between USPS and other package services, the USPS is mandated by law to request authorities get a warrant before they can look at shit (only exception to this is USPS internal inspection, but they are mostly looking at employees committing fraud).  Other services tend to have friendly relationships with LEO and will let them inspect anything.

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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Brenard Shaw


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Re: How Secure Is Tor And The Darknet As Of 2020? [Re: Ice9]
    #27057374 - 11/25/20 04:18 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I see you and I had similar college schedules.


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Re: How Secure Is Tor And The Darknet As Of 2020? [Re: Ice9]
    #27057475 - 11/25/20 05:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Ice9 said:
The difference between USPS and other package services, the USPS is mandated by law to request authorities get a warrant before they can look at shit (only exception to this is USPS internal inspection, but they are mostly looking at employees committing fraud).  Other services tend to have friendly relationships with LEO and will let them inspect anything.



I had one of those standard USPS cardboard boxes that are about the size of a VHS tape opened and a vacuum sealed bag inside it opened and the oz of shrooms inside it removed before it was all sealed back up and put in my mailbox a couple of years ago.

No idea how they knew to open it and empty the contents but they must've done it without reporting it and knowing that nothing would come of it. There were definitely shrooms in there at one point too; I could smell 'em!!


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Re: How Secure Is Tor And The Darknet As Of 2020? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #27057693 - 11/25/20 07:27 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

This was the reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/darknet/comments/bw5cat/i_used_to_work_at_ups_tips_on_shipping/ from the ups worker i referenced that seems to indicate they don't have a freer hand to search.


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Re: How Secure Is Tor And The Darknet As Of 2020? [Re: Ice9]
    #27191238 - 02/07/21 09:01 AM (3 years, 9 days ago)

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Tor is not secure.  what the FBI does is launch DDOS attacks on TOR nodes, then opens all it's own TOR nodes which most traffic gets routed through and they log it all.  Don't use TOR without a good VPN, even then there is tools around it. Use PGP, cause as its name implies it's pretty good protection with end to end encryption locked by keys.



That doesn't make it insecure.  The whole point of Tor is anonymity.  If people are running insecure nodes then the Tor devs can't really do fuck all about it.  They also can't do anything if whoever's running a node decides to just turn their logs over to the law enforcement agencies every other Tuesday.


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Re: How Secure Is Tor And The Darknet As Of 2020? [Re: chibiabos]
    #27191284 - 02/07/21 09:27 AM (3 years, 9 days ago)

Or if law enforcement simply owns the nodes, which seems likely. We know for a fact that they have seized nodes, there is exactly zero reason to believe that they don't operate them. Tor nodes generally aren't supposed to collect any logs, that's kind of the point, so even if you seize a node you shouldn't find anything. So unless people are collecting logs with their nodes there isn't much point in taking them, other than to eliminate a node.


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Re: How Secure Is Tor And The Darknet As Of 2020? [Re: christopera]
    #27191337 - 02/07/21 10:00 AM (3 years, 9 days ago)

Nodes aren't supposed to collect logs and people aren't supposed to mail order heroin.  :justdontknow:


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