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Re: Just coir instead of CVG? [Re: starbones] * 1
    #27057074 - 11/25/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I think the only reason I use gypsum anymore is because what the fuck else am I gonna do with the massive bag I bought? I don't know if I'll buy anymore someday but I don't see myself running out anytime soon. I don't put it in my grain jars anymore as it doesn't seem to do anything there and I never have shaking issues without it.

I'd die without verm though, especially if I overshoot my FC it's a nice bandaid to have.


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Re: Just coir instead of CVG? [Re: starbones]
    #27057119 - 11/25/20 01:11 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Guys,

Based upon your feedback, I'm going to dispense with the gypsum and keep the verm for hydration purposes.

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Re: Just coir instead of CVG? [Re: tomcards] * 1
    #27057138 - 11/25/20 01:31 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

In terms of coir/vermiculite proportions, is it appropriate to use 2 quarts of vermiculite for each 650 gram brick of coir?

And then there's the controversial debate over how much water to add to a 650 gram coir/verm mix.  I've heard anything from 2.5 quarts to 4 quarts.  Is there any consensus on the amount of water?

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Re: Just coir instead of CVG? [Re: tomcards]
    #27057146 - 11/25/20 01:34 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I just use 2qts every time, when I'm doing APE/PE/PESA or anything PE really I add an extra qt of verm.


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Re: Just coir instead of CVG? [Re: mushhead]
    #27057480 - 11/25/20 05:23 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

For a brick and 2qts verm I've always used a gallon (=4 quarts).

Either two or three qts of verm is fine, if you add an extra qt of verm(3) I'd add a half qt of water.

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Re: Just coir instead of CVG? [Re: filthyknees]
    #27057493 - 11/25/20 05:32 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

That’s what I use, 1 gal water per brick


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Re: Just coir instead of CVG? [Re: AtmozFear]
    #27057584 - 11/25/20 06:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I only use coir and gypsum but only because I haven't got my hand on verm yet. Coir only works fine, ive been told to toss the gypsum but i use 5-10% so im sure it does SOMETHING. Ill be using verm as soon as I can get some. I know its easy to find.



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Re: Just coir instead of CVG? [Re: Tomato_tuhmahto]
    #27058293 - 11/26/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks again!


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Re: Just coir instead of CVG? [Re: tomcards]
    #27612872 - 01/09/22 12:06 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Great post looks like CV is the preferred sadly I just bought more G

I love these informative threads


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Re: Just coir instead of CVG? [Re: tomcards]
    #27713084 - 03/29/22 03:54 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I’ve used only coir and had great results my last tubs went 4-5 flushes and a little over 7oz dried. That’s all I’ve ever done other than starting with brf cakes.


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Re: Just coir instead of CVG? [Re: Bird_mAn642]
    #27713565 - 03/29/22 11:19 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I use straight coir, no interest in experimenting further with mined substrates. Using coir already weighs on my conscience enough.


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Re: Just coir instead of CVG? [Re: tomcards]
    #27713571 - 03/29/22 11:29 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Just coir works but adding verm makes for nice texture and consistency.


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Re: Just coir instead of CVG? [Re: LotKid]
    #27713590 - 03/30/22 12:44 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Gypsum does absolutely nothing in my experience.


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