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shadyshroomie
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Re: Martha/Greenhouse/FAE/Advice Needed [Re: dfwerydfhg]
#27064270 - 11/30/20 10:03 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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dfwerydfhg said: What you're writing looks like when my brain is trying to prematurely optimize something, before I even try and understand the basics. Not trying to be snarky or anything, as I said it's something I struggle with.
I suggest getting the basic setup done and working, before aiming for perfection on paper. Then you can test and tweak as needed, rather than trying to plan for every hypothetical scenario, and solve every theoretical problem. Really cuts down the workload.
Yeah you are 100% correct. I like to plan things out as much as I can but I definitely feel like any more time spent planning how I am gonna provide FAE/RH before I actually set it up will not lead to any more success. My time would be better spent learning more about agar, LC, and various other aspects of mycology.
To go against what I just admitted, I am going to ask one more question about FAE haha. What are people's thoughts on filling large holes in the greenhouse with polyfill to increase FAE while maintaining humidity? This would be in addition to small slits/vents.
I feel like I am overthinking all of this shit and in reality as long as RH is maintained, and there is sufficient FAE, shit will fruit... I have this idea that fruiting success increases linearly with increased FAE so I am trying to figure out ways to get a ton of FAE and maintain humidity. I would not be surprised if as I gain more experience, I realize I was overthinking FAE and all this shit and it was much more simple than I believed... and it just needs to be dialed in after setting up.
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Greens21
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Re: Martha/Greenhouse/FAE/Advice Needed [Re: shadyshroomie]
#27064465 - 11/30/20 11:50 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Definitely no need for polyfill, the plastic with slits will be more than ample to trap humidity inside while allowing tons of FAE.
You can get a second humidifier if you want, I actually have a second one connected to the same timer as my fan set to its highest setting so that it dumps tons of extra moisture in while the fan is drying things out (just another thing to dial in making sure that you’re not getting too much moisture). I think you’ll be fine with just the one in a chamber of your size, but worst case, like you said, a second humidifier would keep you from having to refill as often as they would both be on a lower setting than if you had just one.
If you want 5 minutes on, 30 minutes off, you’ll need a digital timer, which exist but they’re a good deal more expensive than the analog 15 minute “switch” timers. I think it’s unnecessary though, as the amount of gasses that build up in 30 minutes will be negligibly less than what would build up in two hours, and you’d also need your humidifier(s) on higher settings, so I think you’d just be adding more work for yourself without much real benefit
-------------------- I've been trying to justify you In the end I will just defy you
Edited by Greens21 (11/30/20 11:56 AM)
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shadyshroomie
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Re: Martha/Greenhouse/FAE/Advice Needed [Re: Greens21]
#27064971 - 11/30/20 04:18 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Greens21 said:
You can get a second humidifier if you want, I actually have a second one connected to the same timer as my fan set to its highest setting so that it dumps tons of extra moisture in while the fan is drying things out (just another thing to dial in making sure that you’re not getting too much moisture). I think you’ll be fine with just the one in a chamber of your size, but worst case, like you said, a second humidifier would keep you from having to refill as often as they would both be on a lower setting than if you had just one.
Ahh that genius... I like the idea of temporarily blasting humidity while oscillating fan is on.
How full can you pack the greenhouse? I am deciding which trays to get. My goal is to only have trays in the greenhouse as long as they are flushing higher yields, likely not going past a 3rd flush (will leave trays in for 3rd flush that are looking nice and still yielding some, or if I do not have more trays colonized). Goal is to have high turnover of trays.
With shelves that are 30" x 14", would placing 3 10" x 13" on the shelves be too packed? 3" Deep Trays
I would probably use 2 quarts of grain spawn, to 2-2.5 quarts compost bulk sub. Then add a 1/4" casing layer. Any advice on substrate depth, ratio, and spacing on the shelves you have found to be optimal in your greenhouse?
Or any advice on using larger trays with more spawn and deeper sub, or several smaller trays, etc etc. I would like to cycle trays every 7-10 days. Of course will need to find the strain, clone, and technique that will get me towards that. But any info from a long time GH grower regarding different trays would help!
Thanks again for all the help its tremendous.
Edited by shadyshroomie (11/30/20 04:20 PM)
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Greens21
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Re: Martha/Greenhouse/FAE/Advice Needed [Re: shadyshroomie]
#27064994 - 11/30/20 04:34 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I prefer as few larger trays as possible. Spacing is not an issue, cram it as full as you can. However, since you’re just getting started, you’re much more likely to encounter contams, so you might be better off doing more smaller trays so that you’re able to remove any contammed trays. If only one of your jars is contammed, then you lose one tray; better for it to be one small tray with 2qt spawn than one large one with 5-6qt spawn.
Do the 10x13 trays you’re looking at specify their quartage? 10x13x3” is 390 cubic inches, which is over 6.5 quarts, which means you could use more bulk sub than what you specified. But that’s of course assuming those are the interior measurements. In general I like 1:2 spawn:sub, 1:1 will colonize faster but I feel the texture of 1:2 is better for overall health
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