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Mr Boogie
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advice for poorly timed grow?
#27055948 - 11/24/20 06:13 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi there first time poster, been lurking for a month or so now. Ive been reading a bit here and have found alot thats gotten me on what i believe is a good path, but i was hoping to run my plan by some of you experts and hopefully get a little bit of advice to fill in where im lacking clarity. I started some spores some weeks ago, ive got a dozen pre-sterilized substrate jars from Midwest Grow kits going with half Psil. Azurescens and half Psil. Cyanescens. I bought those spores ona whim without really reading about what growing them entailed thinking id just do like i did with cubes 20 years ago and fruit the cakes in a tub and then maybe see if i could get them to naturalize in my backyard since i am in the correct area for that(within a mile of puget sound). Then i started reading about cultivation of P azurescens and Cyanescens (ass backwards process, I know). anyway, Ive now realized that outdoor growing seems like a no brainer, and Im a big time gardener so its a cool prospect, but it seems like Ive backed myself into a corner timing-wise as its just about to get too cold(amiright?) my plan is to try to get these things outdoors as soon as the jars are fully spawned(prob another week) then mix them with saw dust (doug fir and oak mostly) I'm thinking if I mix in some larger particles and chips with the saw dust and let this happen outdoors I wont have to worry too much about contamination. I guess my questions are; 1. how much of a deviation, if any, from "standard procedure" that i can read about on here do i need to do to account for the fact that its not the ideal time to be placing a bed outside? 2. Am I correct in my belief on outdoor growing needing much less sterilization? I can come up with alot more questions but i dont want to wear out my welcome on my first post.
thanks for reading, and thanks for any help anyone can give.
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Haywire
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Re: advice for poorly timed grow? [Re: Mr Boogie]
#27056481 - 11/25/20 12:50 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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welcome to the forum, Mr Boogie.
you could keep expanding the spawn until spring? if the cakes are fully grown, you can shred them and add them to a bucket, planter, ... with woodchips and store in the garage if you have one?
once the container is colonized, you can use that to inoculate more containers. it'll grow slow, but my guess is that it will grow faster than if you would bury it in your garden.
for more information look up: - official woodlovers thread - Asante's thread
good luck!
-------------------- Ciao mamma, guarda come mi diverto My grows Outdoor patches
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huicholstudent
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Re: advice for poorly timed grow? [Re: Haywire]
#27056507 - 11/25/20 01:29 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Second Haywire's recommendation: grow grain spawn-chip mix indoors if you can till beginning of spring after last frost. Gives the grain spawn time to colonize wood chips faster and you can keep expanding in containers with more wood chips/sawdust then put in the yard in March to seed your patch.
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Mr Boogie
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thanks Haywire and Huichol
for some reason i thought there was a kindof timer going and that the myc would either fruit or die back after a certain time, sounds like as long as its being fed it will continue growing until fruiting is induced. thanks for the nudge in the right direction, ill report back with results in due time.
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Re: advice for poorly timed grow? [Re: Mr Boogie]
#27056816 - 11/25/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Expand them into soaked and then pasteurized alder smoking chips. Let those grow out, and then introduce into fresh chips outside in a couple months. They will grow aggressively through the winter.
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Haywire
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Re: advice for poorly timed grow? [Re: OldManRiver]
#27056887 - 11/25/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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OldManRiver said: Expand them into soaked and then pasteurized alder smoking chips. Let those grow out, and then introduce into fresh chips outside in a couple months. They will grow aggressively through the winter.
that's interesting. don't you get like cold as winters? like freezing all day long? I would think growth would stop during those months.
-------------------- Ciao mamma, guarda come mi diverto My grows Outdoor patches
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Mr Boogie
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Re: advice for poorly timed grow? [Re: Haywire]
#27058457 - 11/26/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Asante's thread was super helpful, hadnt found that one yet, thanks again. Haywire- I think your question was directed at OMR but it looks like he and I are in a similar area- it gets cold but not sustained sub 20s, granted this will only be my second winter in the puget sound area. coming from new england the winters here seem extremely depressing, wet, and dark but not very cold. havent seen a hard freeze yet. though it did snow 2 feet here a couple years ago and people are still telling stories about it. As far as i can tell that climate is right around the Sound, further inland and closer to the mountains, much different story. Just to see what happens I broke up two of my jars that had a speck of green mold, threw the mold away and grabbed the chunks of mycelium and put them ina pizza box with some wood shavings and dust with some soil around, ill leave it outside over the winter and see what happens
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