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Presto Spawn bag question(s)
#27055552 - 11/24/20 01:42 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi folks,
here is what I am planning to do based on my research:
- fill bags with 3-4 lbs grain each - get as much air out as possible and pre-seal bags (I work in a SAB (going to use LC).. yes yes I know I know.. PITA and such.. wouldn't do it... get a FH -> I will once I can afford it I promise) - fold bags (harmonica) and load 4 bags into presto (jar rings on bottom) - bring to pressure - sterilize for three hours
my questions are:
- what is the standard weight people put in a medium Unicorn bag? Is 4lbs a good number? - is there a way I can fit more than 4 bags into my PC (Presto)? - do I need to put the bags into a pillowcase to avoid melting? would wrapping them in tin foil have the same effect? If yes, is one layer enough? - I am using bags with .5 filter - would it be helpful to put a piece of MP tape on the filter batch after sterilization to avoid contamination?
Any other comments and recommendations are welcomed!
Much LOVE! Thanks guys
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Re: Presto Spawn bag question(s) [Re: shroomshine]
#27055572 - 11/24/20 01:51 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I had success this route 2x that I tried it
Idk weight, but I loaded 4qts of hydrated grain into each bag, I can stuff 6 in my presto 23qt
No pillow case ect, and if the bags are presealed (I did) no need to accordion fold the bag, just wrap it under.
for whatever reason my bottom bags seemed to take on moisture, so the next round I wrapped the bottom bags in foil (sorry for the hypocrisy of the above statement)
I PC for 4 hours, Plate on top of bags in PC to weigh them down, would use an actual weight if I had one
When the bags come out, I bought some wood clamps to hang them and they fill with air pretty quick compared to sitting on the shelf *no pics of the hanging bags sorry
 
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Re: Presto Spawn bag question(s) [Re: Camera93]
#27055577 - 11/24/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Awesome! Thanks for the quick info...really appreciate it! Did you use .5 filters as well? And how did you fit the 6? 2 layers of 3?
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Edited by shroomshine (11/24/20 01:56 PM)
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Re: Presto Spawn bag question(s) [Re: shroomshine]
#27055580 - 11/24/20 01:59 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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yep, the .5 filter patch bags and yes, 2 stacks of 3
I heard of someone getting 8 in there but I don't know the fuck how
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Re: Presto Spawn bag question(s) [Re: Camera93]
#27055591 - 11/24/20 02:08 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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sweet that's great! I love that polypore btw! I use that kind to prevent myself from getting sick Is there a TEK for that? I would love to cultivate some of those!
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Re: Presto Spawn bag question(s) [Re: shroomshine]
#27055678 - 11/24/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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In my experience using presto for bags, you end up with popped or stretched ones pretty often, that may become so weak they rip open when you massage them. Jamming it as full as possible (6 4lb bags) did help prevent this, and so does trying to slow the cool down..as in turn the burner down bit by bit and slowly reduce pressure over a couple hours vs. just shutting it off, but no matter what I would end up with popped ones here and there.
You can resterilize grains in new bags if they pop but eventually they get too cooked if it happens more than once.
Since upgrading to an AA I have never had a popped bag. I've also never hung bags to inflate them, but it may be a little different working in an SAB as opposed to an FH. I would normally just let them fill up with air a bit in front of the flow hood after inoculating before sealing.
I also just ziptie them now after inoculation, it works better in my situation. Depending on the space available in your SAB, it may be easier for you as well.
tl;dr the presto will work but don't be surprised if you end up with some exploded or stretched/expanded weak bags
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