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OfflineEagerNoob42
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    #27052992 - 11/22/20 09:14 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

So I'm on my second PF grow, and I jave 4 PE cakes and 2 KSSS cakes in the SGFC chugging along nicely, albeit slowly because it took a sec to get my conditions more ideal. The KSSS haven't started fruiting yet but i'm not worried, I see stuff forming.

Anyways i guess thats irrelevent, sorry.

My question is over the inconsistent appearance of differwnt KSSS samples i've seen in pics. In half the pics they look like pretty standard cubes, but in half of them (the half that got me stoked to try growing them)
They look like these wild little alien peyote chodes!

And the little stubby ones usually have inverted and wavy caps, which i just love the ugly/cute look of.

I've also noticed that some seem to have spotted caps and some dont.

I'm still a little fuzzy on the difference between strain/variety....

I know that MS syringes will produce differing looking fruits, but in some pics it'll be entire monotubs of obviously cloned fruits, with the full tub being either fully one type or the other.

Can someone help clarify why there are these drastic visual differences, and if youd be so kind, possibly clear up my confusion re: species/strains/varieties?

Thanks y'all. Love ya. Eager to learn more as always.

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Re: KSSS appearance confusion [Re: EagerNoob42]
    #27053057 - 11/22/20 09:44 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Congratulations on growing mushrooms we see that you're very excited and we are very proud of you.  strains are not real it's just something Paul stamets and Guzman made up so they could sell copies of books mushroom product and any other b******* they're selling Alan Rockefeller 2 none of them have ever done an honest day's work in their entire lives Koh Samui super strange because psilocybin mushrooms found in Thailand wasn't specific enough they had to give us some snazzy druggie get excited and buy name. Oh this f****** mushroom is exactly the same as this mushroom but no it's got more potency and look it looks different bulshit. Oh the Spore shape is different so it's a different strain suck my nuts dude literally. It's like eating a curry you can eat Jamaican curry Indian curry you can eat Thai curry they're all different but at the end of the day they're all Curry


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Re: KSSS appearance confusion [Re: Groo]
    #27054760 - 11/23/20 11:10 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

So then why do penis envies, golden teachers, and ksss look so different?

I've heard "strains are bullshit" and "a cube is a cube" but that doesnt clarify why there are very clearly different types of cubes.


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Re: KSSS appearance confusion [Re: EagerNoob42]
    #27054781 - 11/23/20 11:33 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

No no no you r right!! penis envy is very real  the same way a golden  teacher gld retriever is different from a chihuahua to a golden retriever and then to a bulldog and then to a Alaskan dog penis envy is like a Bulldog breeder. I definitely didn't say that strains aren't real as in they don't exist. they're are microscopic and growth differences in between them I just said it's pretentious b******* like today I was considering Square rounded Corner Peachtree dishes what's a grid below $350 for a 500 pack  as opposed to 100 millimeter 500 pack for 89  speaking of pretentious b*******


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Re: KSSS appearance confusion [Re: Groo]
    #27055181 - 11/24/20 09:32 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Such a ray of sunshine groo :lol:

waking up on the wrong side of the bed is more real than strains. :rofl:

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Re: KSSS appearance confusion [Re: Your Daddy]
    #27055309 - 11/24/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Phenotype can vary greatly even with very little change in genotype. Take humans, even though there are better examples, with their 'races'. These are just historical population lineages, akin to varieties in mush cult. A strain is the fusion of two haploid cells, giving the dikaryon a complete genome. Like a sperm and an egg fuse to form the cell lineage for a baby. The baby is a new strain essentially. But with this specific fungi it can have more than just the bimodal sperm and egg, it can have dozens of different haploid cells types, called mating types.


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Re: KSSS appearance confusion [Re: Your Daddy]
    #27055311 - 11/24/20 10:41 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

When growing from spores anything within the species phenotype can be the result. An albino variant can produce reverts, Penis can make normal fruits, classic varieties can blob. With stabilized “mutant varieties” there is a higher frequency of certain traits but it’s still not a guarantee. KSSS often makes spaceships but not always.


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Re: KSSS appearance confusion [Re: Groo]
    #27179810 - 01/31/21 06:37 PM (3 years, 15 days ago)

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Groo said:
Congratulations on growing mushrooms we see that you're very excited and we are very proud of you.  strains are not real it's just something Paul stamets and Guzman made up so they could sell copies of books mushroom product and any other b******* they're selling Alan Rockefeller 2 none of them have ever done an honest day's work in their entire lives Koh Samui super strange because psilocybin mushrooms found in Thailand wasn't specific enough they had to give us some snazzy druggie get excited and buy name. Oh this f****** mushroom is exactly the same as this mushroom but no it's got more potency and look it looks different bulshit. Oh the Spore shape is different so it's a different strain suck my nuts dude literally. It's like eating a curry you can eat Jamaican curry Indian curry you can eat Thai curry they're all different but at the end of the day they're all Curry




This reply is fucking gold


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Re: KSSS appearance confusion [Re: Shroomoisseur]
    #27180092 - 01/31/21 10:39 PM (3 years, 15 days ago)

Sometimes they mutate. I grow KSSS and I have a culture that grows small normal looking but lighter than normal almost albino fruits. I have another that puts out peyote clit mutant things and yet another that puts out 70 to 110 gram wet fruits. All KSSS just a variance on genetics. I will tell you my mutants are stronger than the normal ones by consensus.


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