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lions mane mono?
    #27054363 - 11/23/20 05:54 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

has anyone had success growing lions mane in a mono tub? id assume itd be doable if the substrate was colonized in bags or jars and them placed into a tub?
im redesigning my fruiting chamber after having trouble with several species sporing up the entire room the fruiting chamber was in, so until then i thought id try a few things in some mono tubs.


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Re: lions mane mono? [Re: pincheburro]
    #27054474 - 11/23/20 07:04 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Idk how much success you'd have with a bulk substrate in a mono, but I've certainly seen some surprising results from lion's mane (colonized bags) fruited in modified mono's/sgfc! I'd suggest searching.

I'd also suggest installing a proper exhaust on your fruiting chamber,to pull negative pressure, and help alleviate spores entering the surrounding area!


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Re: lions mane mono? [Re: Harry Manbach]
    #27055863 - 11/24/20 05:08 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Lion's mane will not get near enough air in a monotub to be much good for eating.  But if you're grinding them up for medicine, it's a good way.


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Re: lions mane mono? [Re: Forrester]
    #27055964 - 11/24/20 06:22 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Lion's mane will not get near enough air in a monotub to be much good for eating.  But if you're grinding them up for medicine, it's a good way.




I gotta disagree,if you comb through the search of lion's mane mono there's at least 2 examples I found through a quick look, all be it there were certainly more examples of it not working so well.  If we're hung up on terminology,then yes most of these examples are sgfc's ..and in that case forgive me sir lol

One of the few times I wish I was more "hip up on it" with the technology/Facebook. I recently saw someone fruit some real respectable flushes with mono's mimicking greenhouses..cpu fan, humidifier,the whole nine in a mono..it was pretty cool!


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Re: lions mane mono? [Re: Harry Manbach]
    #27056531 - 11/25/20 02:13 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

A SGFC and a mono tub are two totally different beasts. By this statement...

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Harry Manbach said:
Idk how much success you'd have with a bulk substrate in a mono, but I've certainly seen some surprising results from lion's mane (colonized bags) fruited in modified mono's/sgfc! I'd suggest searching.

I'd also suggest installing a proper exhaust on your fruiting chamber,to pull negative pressure, and help alleviate spores entering the surrounding area!




I can tell you don't know the difference. A mono tub is made for bulk actives and a SGFC is made for active cakes.

I am not trying to be hard on you. But I thought this was a good thing to point out.

As Forrester said LM is not going to do well in a mono tub or a SGFC for that matter. You might get something you can eat but they will be far from good fruits.


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Re: lions mane mono? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #27056653 - 11/25/20 06:42 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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A SGFC and a mono tub are two totally different beasts. By this statement...

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Harry Manbach said:
Idk how much success you'd have with a bulk substrate in a mono, but I've certainly seen some surprising results from lion's mane (colonized bags) fruited in modified mono's/sgfc! I'd suggest searching.

I'd also suggest installing a proper exhaust on your fruiting chamber,to pull negative pressure, and help alleviate spores entering the surrounding area!




I can tell you don't know the difference. A mono tub is made for bulk actives and a SGFC is made for active cakes.

I am not trying to be hard on you. But I thought this was a good thing to point out.

As Forrester said LM is not going to do well in a mono tub or a SGFC for that matter. You might get something you can eat but they will be far from good fruits.




Help enlighten me then, how many holes does it take a modified mono to become a sgfc then?  A mono is dedicated to bulk actives!!? That's crazy with the king oyster mono grows around here!

This is just one quick example using the search feature, picture courtesy "blindingleaf".

Idk about you..doesn't look like bad eating to me?


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Re: lions mane mono? [Re: Harry Manbach]
    #27056693 - 11/25/20 07:39 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

There are exceptions to every rule. Yes, that fruit looks nice. The devil is in the details. I have so much humidity right now you could grow just about anything in less than ideal methods. We give basic fundamental recommendations for the best outcomes, not the 10% or so that are able to pull off grows out of the ordinary.


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Re: lions mane mono? [Re: Quadman]
    #27056733 - 11/25/20 08:32 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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There are exceptions to every rule. Yes, that fruit looks nice. The devil is in the details. I have so much humidity right now you could grow just about anything in less than ideal methods. We give basic fundamental recommendations for the best outcomes, not the 10% or so that are able to pull off grows out of the ordinary.




There were many examples on this forum, and a few I'm not bothering to re find on Facebook.  I answered exactly what the original poster asked, I didn't recommend it.
I find it amusing the amount of predetermined respect some of you come up with based on someone's posts or sign up date,like that determines how much we know. Personally,I've dealt with this several times in what little history I have here. 
The fact is, I answered the op and clearly have SOME understanding of what I'm talking about.
I'll move on to let the experts do their magic.


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Re: lions mane mono? [Re: Quadman]
    #27057052 - 11/25/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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There are exceptions to every rule. Yes, that fruit looks nice. The devil is in the details. I have so much humidity right now you could grow just about anything in less than ideal methods. We give basic fundamental recommendations for the best outcomes, not the 10% or so that are able to pull off grows out of the ordinary.




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Re: lions mane mono? [Re: Harry Manbach]
    #27057073 - 11/25/20 12:33 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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A SGFC and a mono tub are two totally different beasts. By this statement...

Quote:

Harry Manbach said:
Idk how much success you'd have with a bulk substrate in a mono, but I've certainly seen some surprising results from lion's mane (colonized bags) fruited in modified mono's/sgfc! I'd suggest searching.

I'd also suggest installing a proper exhaust on your fruiting chamber,to pull negative pressure, and help alleviate spores entering the surrounding area!




I can tell you don't know the difference. A mono tub is made for bulk actives and a SGFC is made for active cakes.

I am not trying to be hard on you. But I thought this was a good thing to point out.

As Forrester said LM is not going to do well in a mono tub or a SGFC for that matter. You might get something you can eat but they will be far from good fruits.




Help enlighten me then, how many holes does it take a modified mono to become a sgfc then?  A mono is dedicated to bulk actives!!? That's crazy with the king oyster mono grows around here!

This is just one quick example using the search feature, picture courtesy "blindingleaf".

Idk about you..doesn't look like bad eating to me?




How many holes does it take to make a monotub into a SGFC is relative. Depending on the size of the tub. A monotub usually has six 2 inch holes. A SGFC has smaller holes all over except on the bottom. Thus the name SGFC.

And yes a monotub was designed for actives. My car was designed to get me back and forth to work. But that does not mean I can not use it out of what it was designed for and live in it. Although I will not enjoy living in my car. I may be able to make it work. Just like with LM and a monotub the mushrooms won't like it but you may be able to make it work somewhat!

Just don't expect consistent good results and everyone wants consistent good results. Why waste your time if you will more than likely get bad results.


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Re: lions mane mono? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #27057083 - 11/25/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

The man asked a question, I answered,realistically! I never said it's preferred,he had asked if there is successful ways while he redesigns. 

You guys rather seem to be focused on knit-picking to remain "correct"...instead of contributing anything useful to somebody trying to get by!


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Re: lions mane mono? [Re: Harry Manbach]
    #27057196 - 11/25/20 02:27 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

It is not only not preferred. It is not realistic if you want fruits you will want to eat and to keep growing mushrooms. I don't think anyone here is downing you for answering. But we will correct any answer that will cost the grower money and wasted time. If you asked a question I am sure you would want the correct answer

Since you say we are not contributing something useful. I will contribute... DON'T GROW LM IN A MONOTUB!!


Edited by SHROOMSISAY01 (11/25/20 02:40 PM)


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Re: lions mane mono? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #27057404 - 11/25/20 04:31 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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It is not only not preferred. It is not realistic if you want fruits you will want to eat and to keep growing mushrooms. I don't think anyone here is downing you for answering. But we will correct any answer that will cost the grower money and wasted time. If you asked a question I am sure you would want the correct answer

Since you say we are not contributing something useful. I will contribute... DON'T GROW LM IN A MONOTUB!!




Fair enough sir, all is agreeable here! I certainly wouldn't waste the time trying either,unless absolutely necessary!


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Re: lions mane mono? [Re: Harry Manbach]
    #27057507 - 11/25/20 05:37 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I also would try in a monotub if my family needed food and I had no other way of producing them. That may happen in the future if a certain person does not win his court battle for president.


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Re: lions mane mono? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #27057628 - 11/25/20 06:52 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I also would try in a monotub if my family needed food and I had no other way of producing them. That may happen in the future if a certain person does not win his court battle for president.



..I think at this point,with the aftershock of this second wave, this is probably going to be reality for FAR too many people..regardless of our "leader's" shenanigans! ..unfortunately his antics provide a PERFECT distraction from the economic reality!


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