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allenii? * 1
    #27048310 - 11/20/20 03:15 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

These little bad boys are allenii, am i right?


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Re: allenii? [Re: Apples in Mono]
    #27048327 - 11/20/20 03:58 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

wavy caps on the older specimens indicate psilocybe cyanescens


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Re: allenii? [Re: shroomhunter222]
    #27048405 - 11/20/20 05:57 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

:whathesaid:

nice cyans


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Re: allenii? [Re: MadMuncher]
    #27048567 - 11/20/20 08:51 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the replies, guys.

I've never encountered either one in real life before, but I was thinking they didn't look quite wavy enough or consistently dark enough, and with stems a bit too stocky, to be cyans unless maybe i was dealing with a mixed patch. Sometimes the photos i see are very clearly one or the other, but sometimes they don't seem to distinguish themselves so clearly


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Re: allenii? [Re: Apples in Mono] * 1
    #27052988 - 11/22/20 09:12 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

So I'm thinking you guys would call these cyans too?


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Re: allenii? [Re: Apples in Mono]
    #27052989 - 11/22/20 09:12 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

yes beautiful


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Re: allenii? [Re: MadMuncher]
    #27052996 - 11/22/20 09:17 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

:stonedjerk:

Such a sexy patch!!


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Re: allenii? [Re: HAKR ELITE]
    #27053123 - 11/22/20 10:00 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

It's definitely pretty, but it's not actually one i found. I wish it were.
It's actually someone else's patch from posts i came across before i ever found any cyans or allenii myself, when i was trying to make sure i could distinguish the two. It's one of quite a few examples that i initially thought looked more like cyans but were positively identified by TI's as allenii- this particular patch in 2015 by Alan Rockefeller, and i saw quite a few similar examples, some from other TI's as well. This is why i thought mine were allenii.

But it seems that the more i look through old posts, the more it's looking like most would call these cyans(this photo as well as mine). So i guess i'm not sure what to think. My intuitive response is to say they're cyans, especially after now finding what i know are certainly allenii yesterday- seeing them in person, and looking at a million more pictures of each. But I'm a novice ID'er and Alan Rockefeller is Alan Rockefeller, and he was 5 years ago too


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Re: allenii? [Re: Apples in Mono]
    #27053224 - 11/22/20 11:37 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Nice Cyans!

Typically, Allenii's have a "cube-like" cap appearance: https://www.shroomery.org/12492/Psilocybe-allenii


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Re: allenii? [Re: Apples in Mono] * 1
    #27053263 - 11/23/20 01:03 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

looking again, maybe they are an allenii phenotype that are really mature and perfect weather conditions on nice thick substrate. reminds me of these thought these might be allenii but still not sure. this is an apparently wild patch never seen any sign of anyone there. havnt made it there yet this year these are from last season. vacant lot for sale since the 70s in a rural wooded area in a spot that floods severely once every 5 or 10 years in southern or




:shrug: i call em cyans


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Re: allenii? [Re: MadMuncher]
    #27054094 - 11/23/20 02:43 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Well I'm just as happy to take em a home either way.


Those last photos you just posted, and the description of the type of spot, gives me an idea for a potential wild patch in my general vicinity


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Re: allenii? [Re: Apples in Mono]
    #27054447 - 11/23/20 06:42 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

found a wild patch of allenii today




only took these two pics hope that helps your search should gotten a better habitat shot for you. way down in the grass under alder along the edge of the woods in a park by a river


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Re: allenii? [Re: MadMuncher]
    #27055383 - 11/24/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Hell yeah. Nice find. I'm definitely getting some new ideas here. Thanks


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Re: allenii? [Re: Apples in Mono]
    #27055488 - 11/24/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

they were fruiting off a natural pile of accumulated alder branches in long grass couldn't see them until u dig into it


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Re: allenii? [Re: MadMuncher]
    #27055929 - 11/24/20 05:57 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

^ I think that's the only non-landscaping allenii find I've ever seen muncher.


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Re: allenii? [Re: breeg89]
    #27055992 - 11/24/20 06:41 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

there are more wild ones in that area. i picked up a hitchhiker last season and he told me about them. he showed me a spot between a road and a creek but couldn't find them, but he said there were cyans there and we found those where he said they would be so i know he wasnt lying. he said they come up really early. ive been looking in that area a lot this year and never found them, but he showed me where to look around alder and thick long grass at the edge of the treeline. these were found about 20 miles away from that patch he told me about.


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Re: allenii? [Re: MadMuncher]
    #27056076 - 11/24/20 07:24 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)






Found these in an old growth forest in the upper PNW. Thinking allenii,but no bruising.


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Re: allenii? [Re: Mazer Pie]
    #27056086 - 11/24/20 07:30 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I think its an Amanita, one of those poisonous type. Or Hypothomola.


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Re: allenii? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #27056089 - 11/24/20 07:31 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

stropharia ambigua


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Re: allenii? [Re: MadMuncher]
    #27056147 - 11/24/20 07:59 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks! That makes more sense. Back to a new spot tomorrow:smile:


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