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Please cast a vote on my "Spirit Guide". * 1
    #27053382 - 11/23/20 05:19 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I have been pommeling you for years with something thats been a part of my life since at least age 6, my "Spirit Guide.

I let him exist as a superposition of possibilities, not pinning him on being one thing in particular but letting several theories coexist as equals and occasionally going with one notion or the other for that particular line of thought.

I'm keeping my thoughts about him in superposition, a field of possibilities.

If you were to collapse this superposition into one definitive thing, which of the following definition do you think best describe what you think it is?


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What definition do you think best describes it?
You may choose only one
How do you feel about this going on?
You may choose only one


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Re: Please cast a vote on my "Spirit Guide". [Re: Asante]
    #27053384 - 11/23/20 05:21 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

To not collapse questions 1 or 2 for myself, I myself only voted STAL on question 2.

You guys believe what you want to believe, curious how this turns out, the community reflection on what I have been sending out.


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Re: Please cast a vote on my "Spirit Guide". [Re: Asante]
    #27053396 - 11/23/20 05:35 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

STAL

As in it is literally, sir tokes a lot in you are brian


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Re: Please cast a vote on my "Spirit Guide". [Re: twighead] * 1
    #27053422 - 11/23/20 06:04 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Im happy to share my selections.

First choice
Millions of religious people talk with God both ways. Maybe whatever that phenomenon is, is whats happening with him

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Neither hot nor cold

As someone who believes in the God of the Bible, I can see this being possible.  From memory you believe in God, but not the Bible one?
I may not agree with everything you say about your spirit guide, but I do believe he/she/it is real to you, and I will not judge you or condemn you for what you truly believe to be true.

The only time I would have a problem with your beliefs, is when it negatively affected my life or the ones I care about.


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Re: Please cast a vote on my "Spirit Guide". [Re: blessed]
    #27053461 - 11/23/20 07:04 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I hear that in Tibet they call them tulpas :pipesmoke2:


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Re: Please cast a vote on my "Spirit Guide". [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #27053470 - 11/23/20 07:08 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

i thot they was benevolent

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Re: Please cast a vote on my "Spirit Guide". [Re: blessed]
    #27053481 - 11/23/20 07:23 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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blessed said:

As someone who believes in the God of the Bible, I can see this being possible.  From memory you believe in God, but not the Bible one?





Thank you for voting! Let me explain it in biblical format: Lets say Jesus is God in the guise of the Son, the God of the old testament, the God of Moses is God the Father, and that the God of Genesis 1:1 ("In the Beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth."), that that God which brought forth the Totality of Everything, including the things we don't like, all created in pairs, is the Holy Spirit.

This is just my way of defining the three Guises of the same God, influenced by having been taught Catholicism and having been beptized as such at the age of 6:




For Christians, the emphasis lies on Christ, on God the Son. For Jews, the emphasis lies on God the Father, God of Moses, of the Torah. Muslims identify that same God as Allah and said: "but there has since been a new prophet, who insists he is not God, his name is Muhammed and there are his teachings:" producing "the newest Testament" better known as the Qu'ran which Christians and Jews are not quite convinced of.

My personal focus lies on God in his guise as the Holy Spirit, the God of All Things that brought forth light and dark, good and evil, like I said, the Totality of Everything, which is the God of Genesis 1:1.

I read Genesis 1 different than most people: I see what happens in Genesis 1

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1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.




What I see here is that The Holy Spirit creates subdivisions of Himself (to gender Him), dualities within Himself, so that each piece of the Universe is lithering nothing but a piece of the Holy Spirit Himself, which contains All of Him within it, but for the purpose of Creation limits its manifestation to being one thing.

Genesis 1 is in my view one metaphor, and the Big Bang another metaphor, for what I consider the Moment of Creation, 13.8 billion years ago is the best estimate.

With the Big Bang, just prior to it, was probably, the Totality of Everything as One which nearly instantaneously turned into The Totality of Everything As As Many Things That Are Possible simultaneously, causing a tremendous expansion.

Dry sciency words to describe in essence the Holy Spirit loving Himself to bits, all those bits being part of dualities and all being 100% Him but diminished in their physical manifestation.

The Many Things however are still the singular Oneness, the Singular Holy Spirit, which is all that is and will be for all eternity.

God The Father is not the Devil, but both are guises of the Holy Spirit.
Jesus is not Herod, but both are guises of the Holy Spirit.

I think this is what Jesus meant with "Ye are Gods, Ye are all children of the Most High.", that everything that is, is a piece of the Holy Spirit. Most Christian churches try to interpret around the fact that everything IS God, presumably because they feel that that diminishes the pedestal they place Jesus on and for other unwporthiness purposes.

But I think he meant: You are all pieces of the Holy Spirit, are comprised solely of the Holy Spirit and therefore, emissions from the Holy Spirit, that have the entire Divinity of the Holy Spirit within it.

Including a grain of sand

Back on track.

God the Father clearly stated: "Thou Shalt Have No Other Gods Before Me!"

In other words: worship the God of Gods and not a mere emission thereof.

Therefore, to worship God in its purest sense is to worship the Totality of Everything as One, being the God as defined in Genesis 1:1, and not subdivisions of Him, like God the Father or God the Son. Maybe them too, but the God of All Things most of all.

And now I ask the Christian, the Jew, the Muslim, the Hindu and more religious people:

Is the highest definition of your Highest God, the God of the Anything and All?

If they take the effort to think about it and consult their scriptures they all have to conclude, yes, my God is THAT!

For the Jihadist reading this while pushing cartridges in his AK47 to deal with my heresy, consider this:



Is the Almighty Allah (swt), who's 99 names are defined in this nasheed derived from the Holy Qu'ran - is Allah and Allah alone not the Sovereign Lord of all things?

And are Ibrahim from the Holy Qu'ran and Abraham from the Holy Bible, and Nuh fron Surah Nuh, and Noah of the Torah, not two descriptions of the same persons who obey the One God of All Things, the one you call Allah (swt) and the Christians call God? They are even the same word in different languages.

The interpretations of what God wants differs, but God is clear that HE HAS AN INDIVIDUAL PLAN FOR EACH OF US.

Universe comes from "Uni Versum" meaning "One Song" and that One Song is that of the Holy Spirit of ALL religions, which each of them defines as The God Of All Things.

Blessed, do I follow the God of the Christians?

More than Christ, more than any human being, more than any emission from God I follow the GOD OF ALL THINGS, which is AT THE CORE OF ALL THINGS and WHOS PLAN IS ABSOLUTE.

I take "you shall have no other (=lesser) Gods before me" very seriously and my highest allegiance therefore is the Supreme Ruler of All Universes, nothing exempted.

In my heart is a warm place for the core essence of All Religions.

All Religions exist in me as a superposition and the Almighty God asks me to not follow one of them but follow Him, directly, to the best of my ability.


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Re: Please cast a vote on my "Spirit Guide". [Re: blessed]
    #27053482 - 11/23/20 07:24 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

blessed said:

The only time I would have a problem with your beliefs, is when it negatively affected my life or the ones I care about.




In what way have they harmed you and your loved ones?


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Re: Please cast a vote on my "Spirit Guide". [Re: Asante] * 1
    #27053737 - 11/23/20 10:47 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds a lot like Tulpa meditation. I have a Tulpa also. It is a great way to deal with uncertainty and anxiety.


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Re: Please cast a vote on my "Spirit Guide". [Re: Calm_A_Llama_Down] * 1
    #27053751 - 11/23/20 10:57 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Sounds a lot like Tulpa meditation. I have a Tulpa also. It is a great way to deal with uncertainty and anxiety.





Since we both have a channel, maybe we should strike up a chat where we let them talk with each other and we and the baffled onlookers can watch where it will lead.

If your Tulpa is a true Tulpa, so at least a separate partition of consciousness, this could be very interesting to all involved.

The probably somewhat facetious Shunzhi Emperor can come too :awecid:


People reading that thread will be :aghast:

Maybe we'll embolden other people with channels of this or that sort to have their channel join in too.

Wanna have a weird-out, the 2+2 of us?

I like the word Channel cause its basically like we're picking up a channel of ham radio, whatever it is doing it, its at least semi-autonomous to our consciousness.


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Re: Please cast a vote on my "Spirit Guide". [Re: Asante]
    #27053758 - 11/23/20 11:02 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Just thought I'd point out, many of these options are not mutually exclusive.

For example, it's entirely possible that your Nikondi is an imaginary friend brought to adulthood, which some might consider a mental disorder, and it happens to be caused by you somehow hacking your brain and dual installing yourself on a partition. This could be characterized as brain hemispheres communicating consciously with words, and could just happen to be the way millions of people talk to God both ways.

:strokebeard:

Seems to me what your really asking is do we think what your experiencing is caused by a real entity that you have come into contact with, or is it caused by your own brain in some way or another.

Personally, I see no evidence for anyone having real contact with real entities that exist outside of themselves. It seems to me that all of the information humans bring back from supernatural entities is trivial, and something they absolutely could have thought of themselves with no external help.

I'm willing to look into the possibility, but I'd need some strong evidence to accept something so extraordinary.

Anyway, so I voted "Imaginary friend" because I think that most closely approximates what I understand of your spirit guide, and "neither hot nor cold". As long as your spirit guide isn't trying to convert me to Asantism or tell me that homosexuals are evil and slavery is morally acceptable, then I'm all good :thumbup:


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Re: Please cast a vote on my "Spirit Guide". [Re: Svetaketu]
    #27053771 - 11/23/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yup they can be entirely intertwined.

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isn't trying to convert me to Asantism




If Asanteism ever becomes a thing my Spirit Guide failed, catastrophically.

The whole point is that its all about the message that all are of equal value, which is infinite, be they human or cat or grain of sand, and that all are One so should be treasured as if one is treating oneself right.

Quote:

tell me that homosexuals are evil




On the contrary.

Quote:

slavery is morally acceptable




as a mutually consensual contract such as in BDSM, he is in favor because its just another way to intensify a love based relationship. In the typical historic sense, so exploitative, he is opposed to it.


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Re: Please cast a vote on my "Spirit Guide". [Re: Asante] * 1
    #27053779 - 11/23/20 11:13 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I like the Idea. What do you have in mind? Some kind of joint meditation practice, or like a conversation between Tulpas?


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Re: Please cast a vote on my "Spirit Guide". [Re: Calm_A_Llama_Down]
    #27053783 - 11/23/20 11:16 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I havent pinned my channel to a tulpa yet, I leave all options open, but basically create a thread where they have a conversation between them and whoever gets involved.

Maybe in the format of us writing outside quotes and

Quote:

and like Asante was about to say, us, the entities, talking inside of quotes for clarity to the reader, its after all asante and llama who quote us.




Is your Tulpa ready on call, typically, or do you need to expend effort towards a trance or meditative state o receive him/her/it?


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Re: Please cast a vote on my "Spirit Guide". [Re: Asante] * 1
    #27053794 - 11/23/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I have to meditate to speak with my Tulpa. Once I get out of work we can do a thread where our thought forms converse. I'll hit you up once I'm home. Im excited, this sounds fun.


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Re: Please cast a vote on my "Spirit Guide". [Re: Asante]
    #27053799 - 11/23/20 11:29 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I STAL it:snowman:


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Re: Please cast a vote on my "Spirit Guide". [Re: Asante]
    #27053809 - 11/23/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I know spirits are real. I think yours is real.
As far as what they are, I don't have a clue.


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    #27053843 - 11/23/20 12:13 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

In the end does it really even matter?


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    #27053878 - 11/23/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

E.C.C.O.


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    #27054124 - 11/23/20 03:03 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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