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jdawg333
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anybody less sensitive to visuals?
#27052597 - 11/22/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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sometimes on some of my harder trips I have felt that I am tripping way way harder inside of my head than my visuals would suggest. I tend to get much stronger audio distortions at higher dosages than visual ones, and although I do see quite a bit it is mainly finding wonder in things I wouldn't normally take a second look at, everything/patterns ranging from slight patterns to full on crawling around, closed eye visuals never really have blown me away or outshone the mental recursion/general frying. I do think when the drugs caught me off guard in my first few experiences I got much stronger visuals, now I feel like they are a symptom of tripping very hard but far from the core of the experience or even one of the good parts.
the other thing that makes me think about this lately is I recently realized I have a much harder time visualizing images in my brain behind closed eyes than a lot of people. they say they can easily and directly see shapes that they choose to envision, whereas I can only conceptualize a shape by how many sides it has and whatnot. maybe people who are already very visual will get deeper visually but less deep in their trains of thought, and vice versa. what do you think?
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Re: anybody less sensitive to visuals? [Re: jdawg333]
#27052630 - 11/22/20 05:27 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I had a very difficult time forming images in my head for most of my life, but blowing my brains to space with DMT seems to have sorted that. Really helped me improve in art in the years since
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Re: anybody less sensitive to visuals? [Re: JonBa]
#27052829 - 11/22/20 07:19 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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For the love of god don't think about a beach.
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jdawg333
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Re: anybody less sensitive to visuals? [Re: LosTresOjos]
#27052833 - 11/22/20 07:22 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's like I can 'picture' a beach but it's no different if my eyes are open or closed the way I imagine it. Others tell me that they can literally see an image of a beach behind their eyes in their brain, I see blackness for the most part
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Re: anybody less sensitive to visuals? [Re: jdawg333]
#27052905 - 11/22/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Your eyes are used for external stimuli, for the most part. Its not about using your eyes to see. You pictured a beach. Thats it. Some people are a lot better at seeing the imagination. Those people are usually really famous. Einstein as one example.
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Re: anybody less sensitive to visuals? [Re: LosTresOjos]
#27052977 - 11/22/20 09:03 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Perhaps tripping in the dark could help.
I am also not a very "visual" person when tripping. When we're tripping at a forest my wife says she sees plants dancing, melting and spinning, but I only see them perfectly static but looking "hyperreal." I love seeing them like that though, it's as if I was looking at the world through the third eye.
So I guess it varies from person to person.
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Re: anybody less sensitive to visuals? [Re: jomanda1990]
#27053147 - 11/22/20 10:01 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't always find lsd to be very visual And I've taken some fairly large doses. Large doses of mushrooms is a different story. I have to dose large but I get some crazy visuals. 5g doesn't do it for me. I have to dose in the 7-8+ gram range to have a visual trip. Maybe my grow was weak, idk but I've had a few different grows and that is my standard dose for a visual trip. Now if I combine 250ug of lsd and 4g of mushrooms, I launch into some crazy visuals that are much different from mushrooms alone... If you aren't having visions, I'd recommend you increase the dose if you are comfortable doing so. When I trip, I want to have visions. That's kind of the point of my trips.
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Re: anybody less sensitive to visuals? [Re: jdawg333]
#27053598 - 11/23/20 08:52 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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jdawg333 said: sometimes on some of my harder trips I have felt that I am tripping way way harder inside of my head than my visuals would suggest. I tend to get much stronger audio distortions at higher dosages than visual ones, and although I do see quite a bit it is mainly finding wonder in things I wouldn't normally take a second look at, everything/patterns ranging from slight patterns to full on crawling around, closed eye visuals never really have blown me away or outshone the mental recursion/general frying. I do think when the drugs caught me off guard in my first few experiences I got much stronger visuals, now I feel like they are a symptom of tripping very hard but far from the core of the experience or even one of the good parts.
the other thing that makes me think about this lately is I recently realized I have a much harder time visualizing images in my brain behind closed eyes than a lot of people. they say they can easily and directly see shapes that they choose to envision, whereas I can only conceptualize a shape by how many sides it has and whatnot. maybe people who are already very visual will get deeper visually but less deep in their trains of thought, and vice versa. what do you think?
There are lots of inputs that can effect experience, from product quality to personal genetics and interactions, etc. For visuals, I recommend combining cannabis with shrooms to kick OEVs and CEVs up a notch or two . It also helps one see and understand where visuals can be, on a scale of mild to wild. Have you tried that? If so, what are the results?
Vaping or smoke some cannabis while on shrooms definitely potentiates the effects (synergistically increases), and particularly the visuals. A good way to try the combination is to wait until the shroom trip has peaked, then smoke/vape the cannabis.
I really enjoy and seek out psychedelic visuals. YMMV. My visuals experiences on shrooms tend to be variable... and higher doses help or increase amount/effects (naturally). Even with similar doses, potency is often variable. With all that in mind, I find some trips are more visual, others more introspective, etc. I agree with others here that all shrooms trips are different, and I try to embrace the variability. I typically look to dial in the desired intensity of experience with the dose. And at this time in the ebb and flow of psychedelic experiences, I'm enjoying and seeking out trips that bring a combination of both visuals as well as introspective thoughts.
Enjoy the journey .
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Re: anybody less sensitive to visuals? [Re: alpha-omega]
#27053684 - 11/23/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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alpha-omega said:
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jdawg333 said: sometimes on some of my harder trips I have felt that I am tripping way way harder inside of my head than my visuals would suggest. I tend to get much stronger audio distortions at higher dosages than visual ones, and although I do see quite a bit it is mainly finding wonder in things I wouldn't normally take a second look at, everything/patterns ranging from slight patterns to full on crawling around, closed eye visuals never really have blown me away or outshone the mental recursion/general frying. I do think when the drugs caught me off guard in my first few experiences I got much stronger visuals, now I feel like they are a symptom of tripping very hard but far from the core of the experience or even one of the good parts.
the other thing that makes me think about this lately is I recently realized I have a much harder time visualizing images in my brain behind closed eyes than a lot of people. they say they can easily and directly see shapes that they choose to envision, whereas I can only conceptualize a shape by how many sides it has and whatnot. maybe people who are already very visual will get deeper visually but less deep in their trains of thought, and vice versa. what do you think?
There are lots of inputs that can effect experience, from product quality to personal genetics and interactions, etc. For visuals, I recommend combining cannabis with shrooms to kick OEVs and CEVs up a notch or two . It also helps one see and understand where visuals can be, on a scale of mild to wild. Have you tried that? If so, what are the results?
Vaping or smoke some cannabis while on shrooms definitely potentiates the effects (synergistically increases), and particularly the visuals. A good way to try the combination is to wait until the shroom trip has peaked, then smoke/vape the cannabis.
I really enjoy and seek out psychedelic visuals. YMMV. My visuals experiences on shrooms tend to be variable... and higher doses help or increase amount/effects (naturally). Even with similar doses, potency is often variable. With all that in mind, I find some trips are more visual, others more introspective, etc. I agree with others here that all shrooms trips are different, and I try to embrace the variability. I typically look to dial in the desired intensity of experience with the dose. And at this time in the ebb and flow of psychedelic experiences, I'm enjoying and seeking out trips that bring a combination of both visuals as well as introspective thoughts.
Enjoy the journey .
I totally agree with you bro. I was going to suggest cannabis as well.
I've also noticed that the first few times I did shrooms the experience was way more visual and in general now that I started growing and doing it more frequently (3-4 times a month) they tend to be more introspective and less visual.
Ps: What's OEV and CEV?
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Re: anybody less sensitive to visuals? [Re: enzofilo]
#27053724 - 11/23/20 10:40 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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CEV - Closed Eye Visuals OEV - Open Eye Visuals
the general effects of enhancement and trails from layering and time dilation applies equally to all senses and mental formations at the same time.
when the vision is less altered than thinking, it is because that is where your momentum is. i.e. you have come into your trip with things on your mind, feelings, etc. or listening to something engrossing in itself without visual synergy or synesthesia.
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