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OfflinekunzyMAGI24
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Possible Premature Fruit Bodies/ Grow Report
    #27052515 - 11/22/20 04:34 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

So here's the thing, my friend is a well seasoned mycologist that has been cultivating mushrooms for a while. Needless to say his techniques with incubation is right on par. Perfect conditions, etc.

He's been incubating a container of B+ in BRF, which has done something peculiar.

It appears that this sample is forming massive clots of sclerotia. This is at approximately 75% colonization.

Although B+ is known for sclerotia, I was just curious why it's being produced so early, in the colonization process.

Any thoughts would be helpful, but no need to rush to to consensus. It's not really a problematic occurance.


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Re: Pre mature sclerotia [Re: kunzyMAGI24]
    #27052738 - 11/22/20 06:18 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Cubes aren’t sclerotia forming.. you probably have either an over active sub strain in the mix of MS or the cake is fighting something off or there’s a contamination that looks a lot like cube myc.  I’ve seen it before in cakes.. best to just ride it out and see what happens.. it’s usually benign but keep an eye on it for color change etc.

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Re: Pre mature sclerotia [Re: fahtster]
    #27052789 - 11/22/20 06:50 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Holy shit!


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Re: Pre mature sclerotia [Re: Mycolorado]
    #27054497 - 11/23/20 07:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

It's definitely not contaminated. Its possible that it's invitro fruiting in my opinion. Check this out though, it has VEINS.



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Re: Pre mature sclerotia [Re: kunzyMAGI24]
    #27054500 - 11/23/20 07:23 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Here's a pic of the bruising fruit, and an update as to thr colonization process as of yet.



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Re: Pre mature sclerotia [Re: kunzyMAGI24]
    #27054510 - 11/23/20 07:28 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

That looks, not good.


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Re: Pre mature sclerotia [Re: kunzyMAGI24]
    #27054519 - 11/23/20 07:39 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

kunzyMAGI24 said:
It's definitely not contaminated.




:whatthetrek:


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Re: Pre mature sclerotia [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #27054568 - 11/23/20 08:07 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

prob from weird container u used allowing some bac in there as it cools. ALOT of surface area there


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Re: Pre mature sclerotia [Re: the man]
    #27054594 - 11/23/20 08:24 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I'll keep this thread periodically updated, so whether its contaminated or not, we'll find out guys. It looks like it has a yellowish hue because of the lighting in the picture. The sample actually is completely porcelain white.  the brown bits are vermiculite. When i get close to the air exchange holes which are covered with micropore tape, I'm able to detect a very healthy mushroom smell. Its a healthy specimen, its just making weird fruit-like deposits, which is what i was referring to in this thread. Im not really concerned about contamination, as seeing it in person versus my shitty picture just doesn't translate well.


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Edited by kunzyMAGI24 (11/23/20 08:25 PM)


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Re: Pre mature sclerotia [Re: kunzyMAGI24]
    #27055861 - 11/24/20 05:07 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

As you can see in this picture, which actually has proper lighting, the colonization has been spreading rapidly the past two days. I also get occasional blueing if im not careful handling it. Which throws the "not psilocybe mycelium, it's mold" hypothesis out the proverbial window.

Like i said, im not looking to debate on whether its contaminated or not, as this is being overseen by a professional. There's just no room to discuss it, and its not relevant to my post.

That being said, I'd like to have some discussion as to what could be causing the premature fruiting. Is it possible its receiving too much light? Mutated genetics? Helpful responses please. Not insulting captain kirk memes.



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Re: Pre mature sclerotia [Re: kunzyMAGI24] * 1
    #27055879 - 11/24/20 05:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I would think the professional overseeing your project would be quite capable of answering your questions.


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Re: Pre mature sclerotia [Re: Mycolorado]
    #27055886 - 11/24/20 05:25 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you for contributing your valuable opinion. It helps a lot. Thanks for helping a curious mycology enthusiast. Great job


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Re: Pre mature sclerotia [Re: kunzyMAGI24] * 1
    #27055897 - 11/24/20 05:34 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Your attitude is the real issue.  I’d tell you that the thick wet-looking growth and fruiting before full colonization would likely be indicative of bacteria.  But you already said you don’t want to hear it and that you have a pro overseeing your project.  So, :shrug:  Additionally, I wouldn’t listen to a “pro” who thinks that cubes form sclerotia.


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Re: Pre mature sclerotia [Re: Mycolorado]
    #27055966 - 11/24/20 06:25 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Well i guess that's where we differ. Thanks for the help


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Re: Pre mature sclerotia [Re: kunzyMAGI24]
    #27055983 - 11/24/20 06:34 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Ill just continue to post the progress of the supposedly contaminated sample. Let that decide. :wink:


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Re: Pre mature sclerotia [Re: kunzyMAGI24] * 1
    #27055986 - 11/24/20 06:36 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Sure. Nobody said it wouldn’t fruit. :shrug:  It just doesn’t look healthy.


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Re: Pre mature sclerotia [Re: kunzyMAGI24]
    #27055987 - 11/24/20 06:38 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Fungi pin early to escape contamination all the time.


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Re: Pre mature sclerotia [Re: Wall.E]
    #27056068 - 11/24/20 07:19 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

lol people are funny.. not withstanding the reason for the issue i am seeing, what the heck is causing my issue.. professionals agree, circular jerk of logic..

and yes dont dismiss everyone saying its a professional set up and then ask questions that could be answered by any "professional". remember they told u what and why to HELP u.

best to try normal jars next time!


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Re: Pre mature sclerotia [Re: the man] * 1
    #27056096 - 11/24/20 07:35 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

How are people actively searching mushroom info on the internet but still able to argue that b+ is known for producing sclerotia.


:facepalm:



That’s without a doubt bacterial as fuck but I’ve fruited plenty of jars like that myself.


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Re: Pre mature sclerotia [Re: A.k.a]
    #27056194 - 11/24/20 08:31 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Stressed myc will bruise blue. It's not uncommon to see thick bacterial myc bruise.


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