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Asante
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EternalCowabunga said: I'd probably be annoyed by Asante's post. No words of compassion or understanding or "It's going to be okay, man..." but instead "Hey, I just spent a bunch of money on a tribe in Africa - be more like me"
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EternalCowabunga said: I looked at Asante's post again and it was pretty compassionate. I do however still understand the response.
The magic of rereading 
I understand his response too and felt bad that the message didnt resonate with him, but its hard to get through to people with depression in a single post.
Depression, psychologically, is a condition where you adhere thoughts that lead to a downward spiral, to just about anything and thus around you see your sadness and despair reflected.
A person can bring good vibes all he wishes but an instinctive ITS ALL FOR NAUGHT label blots out the positivity of it.
Hypnosis might help depressed people because it in part is a psychological tunnel vision of negativity fed by ones adverse suggestions.
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Re: This world is shit [Re: Asante]
#27051103 - 11/21/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Indeed. It's really hard to talk someone out of depression when they feel with every fiber of their being that their attitude is justified.
Also, I don't blame your approach - it wouldn't have worked for me in my dark days but for a lot of people giving back to society does help them get out of a rut.
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spirit_shadow said: The world is beautiful. SOME People are shit 
Negativity is like a drug. Try to keep a positive mental attitude no matter what. I know it's hard as hell, but you have to try.
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i wanna make 1000 shroomery wells so i have a presence when i show up
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Re: This world is shit [Re: Asante]
#27051717 - 11/22/20 08:32 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yo Asante, if we ever get this donation thing off the ground, please PM me because I likely will forget and may never re-visit this thread.
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metalfaith said: Yo Asante, if we ever get this donation thing off the ground, please PM me because I likely will forget and may never re-visit this thread.
Hell yes
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tyrannicalrex said:
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spirit_shadow said: The world is beautiful. SOME People are shit 
Negativity is like a drug. Try to keep a positive mental attitude no matter what. I know it's hard as hell, but you have to try.
But people ARE shit.....most people ;p
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#27051929 - 11/22/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey I’m down to donate. Let me know.
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Asante
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Its probably down to me to organize something. If someone else, a trusted member would take the lead and initiative I would prefer it and endorse it, because then it isn't an initiative by somoeone who is a site admin but grassroots, from the community itself, without the pressure of an admin hammering on it.
I'd prefer it that way and in the mean time will consult my fellow admins how they feel about this development.
If I get their green light I'll be the locomotive but maybe we have a well respected menber enthusiastic with this and more experienced with fundraising to responsibly get this on wheels.
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Re: This world is shit [Re: Asante]
#27051987 - 11/22/20 11:15 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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PSA: asante can post wherever asante wants to post if you are still depressed there are others here more than willing to listen and help <3
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Well not everyone is shit. Be the change. If OP needs help pm me. I do what I can for members.
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We are here for you op! For real, I've had some dark times where people from here REALLY helped me. 
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Hunter hunter said: Well not everyone is shit. Be the change. If OP needs help pm me. I do what I can for members.
I like to think that the % of people who are not shit are all here on this site
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Re: This world is shit [Re: Asante]
#27052002 - 11/22/20 11:23 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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A gofundme charity can be set up. 168million isn't certified. Maybe you can get them certified.
https://charity.gofundme.com/?lang=en-us
My dad's a lawyer so I am all paranoid about liability and taxes.
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Not certified in the US but certified in Holland.
I'm not wedded to 168million.com - if we can find an American certified charity who does it for $600 or less by all means lets go for that.
Here is a media report (no spice) of a 14yo girl who saw a video of the water situation in Africa when she was nine, said "not on my planet!", raised $100,000 and built 200 wells for it which she now visits.
Fun short feelgood video:
So maybe there is a US charity still out there that does it for $500 in which case they get the contract.
Thing is, all is not well in well digging charities, of which there are many. The factual cost of a shallow well of 100-200 foot deep, if you work economically woith volunteers, is about $350. Thats the pure bare bones cost if working as cheap as possible. That does not stop most charities to charge thousands of dollars for one such well. They fly people in for a job, there are people paid WELL and the actual price of the well skyrockets to ridiculous sums, 5-20x as much as it cost them to make it. Umm, no thanks on that!
An American charity would be even better if the admin team commits to this, because then, not just can we handle donations through our store but the financial aspects for Mind Media Inc would be more favorable.
I made a topic in the admin forum outlining an idea to back this as a site, use our store for donations in several tiers that get you a supporter account (duration extender) for a donation proportional to the gift, so that you not just get the good deed you do but also, a tangible return beyond you christmassy feeling 
Its in the pipes.
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#27052108 - 11/22/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do the well recipients have to join the mushroom cult?
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Asante
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Crazy_Horse said: A gofundme charity can be set up. 168million isn't certified. Maybe you can get them certified.
https://charity.gofundme.com/?lang=en-us
My dad's a lawyer so I am all paranoid about liability and taxes. 
Valid concerns we must all flesh out.
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Asante
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Crazy_Horse said: Do the well recipients have to join the mushroom cult?
I don't think thats necessary
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Re: This world is shit [Re: Asante]
#27052230 - 11/22/20 01:18 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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A famous American Charity, Water Wells For Africa charges on average $8000 per well. Nice you have high tech equipment and well paid workers but the low-techers working with just volunteers can put down 13 wells for that price.
People are digging wells in their back yard using improvised gear for a few bucks, a well is a big concept but it surely needs not come at a big price.
People of the Dutch charity are outraged by this, because they are audited to spend 99,2% on their projects and most other charities balloon up the price of a well to an insurmountable sum - thus limiting the number of people benefitting from having well access, because they aim for corporate money instead of what it actually costs if you pinch every penny.
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#27052238 - 11/22/20 01:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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You could contact 168 million and see if they can take USA dollar donations from us You can get retail on a well for $4-5K here Fuck american companys
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Re: This world is shit [Re: Asante]
#27052257 - 11/22/20 01:27 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Asante said:
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Crazy_Horse said: Do the well recipients have to join the mushroom cult?
I don't think thats necessary 
WTF you think this is? Charity? I want Mini-Shroomerites from our well!
Very enticing website I found. Most intriguing thing about it is they have a whole page where they list their entire history of "mistakes". Like inappropriate marketing, not revealing their identity, etc. I love that kind of transparency. Still researching it right now, but dang. How cool!
https://www.givewell.org/about/our-mistakes
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