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Re: My buddy's taken in by a cult of anti vax, anti covid measures, trump praising rightwing cult. [Re: Drooler]
    #27051885 - 11/22/20 10:22 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Thats part of the incalculable damage incurred to having had a president who fanned the flames of such divisional nonsense.

Tons of people need a cult rescue from a cult that isnt even a proper cult but a decentralized cesspool of people gobbling up whatever unlikely shit crapped out in front of them.

Many people lost the capacity to discern shit from shinola.

Thats a very important quality for an individual to have.}

Yu seriously have people believing in a flat earth and a faked moon landing and that the queen of england is a latex mask worn by an ACTUAL REPTILE FROM OUTER SPACE.

You can think of the queen of england what you will but, an actual reptile wearing a human mask from an alien civilization?  And truly BELIEVE that that is reality?

Sure, a question raised by your talks-to-God-imaginary-friend admin but.. Seriously?

I open all relevant doors to manifest the superpostition where it is a possibility I talk with a part of me, I talk with a Daimon/Spirit guide or whatever the phenomenon may be, that I created a Tulpa or that my difficult childhood split my personality, or that it's actually a Deity addressing me. I let that superposition of all possibility be and sometimes collapse it into this, then into that, play with all notions and let it be as a superposition of possibilities. But to actually collapse your reality into the Single Truth that there is a baby eating space reptile hiding as the queen of england... Get the fuck outta town. Thats not investigating and exploring all aspects of a superposition, that's not leaving the question open , that's investing total belief in a bunch of DooDooCaCa and before you know it, you're one of the tens of millions of social media followers of this guy:





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Re: My buddy's taken in by a cult of anti vax, anti covid measures, trump praising rightwing cult. [Re: Asante] * 1
    #27052007 - 11/22/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Someone I'm acquainted with has recently started to fall into the rabbit hole and into the worshipping of "Trump".



The dude used to be very much into the occult and being "woke" and was spiritually minded etc etc etc, basically he was one I would never expect to hop on the trump train and speak out loudly about how much he loves and supports Trump.

It's super fucking strange.



And anytime I try to have a simple conversation with him and ask him real questions like what aspects of Trump's policy/platform are beneficial for the common working man and our country, basically just trying to find out why he supports him....

...it's always silence. That's one theme I've noticed with all the friends and fam I know that basically worship Trump, whenever I ask about specifics of why they support him and why they feel he is good for our country and our citizens and our planet, they never respond with real answers, or they set up straw-man arguments, or they become triggered and just start spewing out insults to me. I have yet to get any real answer from anyone on the Trump train.

The following he has is very cult-like, it's scary how he's basically worshipped and his supporters feel he is not capable of doing anything wrong...Pure fanaticism.





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Re: My buddy's taken in by a cult of anti vax, anti covid measures, trump praising rightwing cult. [Re: openmind]
    #27052017 - 11/22/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Asante has been taken by a mushroom cult.


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Re: My buddy's taken in by a cult of anti vax, anti covid measures, trump praising rightwing cult. [Re: openmind] * 1
    #27052029 - 11/22/20 11:35 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Extremely strange. It is really the biggest thing that shows how easily Hitler did come to power. Not by any means is Trump Hitler, but it is the closest person to have such a fast, cult-like following who is also completely insane and whose ideas truly do not make sense. And that almost seems to be a feature, not a bug. He's willing to flip flop as much as he wants and his followers just nod and agree with the change.



Also, Psi, somehow I did not write the text I intended to. I intended to quote you and say "I would be tempted to agree with you, but can you elaborate on when and why that education is effective? Any parallels? I am tempted to agree, but I also see what seems to be an innate proclivity to accept that thinking. It seems like some are not oriented toward real logical or scientific thinking."


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Re: My buddy's taken in by a cult of anti vax, anti covid measures, trump praising rightwing cult. [Re: metalfaith]
    #27052034 - 11/22/20 11:38 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

This would have been a trump rally in 3 years if he won


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Re: My buddy's taken in by a cult of anti vax, anti covid measures, trump praising rightwing cult. [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #27052074 - 11/22/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Asante has been taken by a mushroom cult.





Absolutely, hook, line and sinker!

I fell for this community like a ton of bricks :heart:

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Re: My buddy's taken in by a cult of anti vax, anti covid measures, trump praising rightwing cult. [Re: Asante]
    #27052091 - 11/22/20 12:28 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Same :lolsy:


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Re: My buddy's taken in by a cult of anti vax, anti covid measures, trump praising rightwing cult. [Re: Asante] * 2
    #27052121 - 11/22/20 12:39 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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The cult rips people away from the part of their social environment that disagrees with their partyline, exactly as cults do




You could apply this exactly to both political bases in the United States, the far left is just as much of a cult as the far right 

Anyway let him believe what he wants to, that's his right, and it's your right to either still consider him a friend despite disagreeing with him or not consider him a friend


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Re: My buddy's taken in by a cult of anti vax, anti covid measures, trump praising rightwing cult. [Re: Niffla]
    #27052156 - 11/22/20 12:52 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I don't mind disagreeing with him, I just hope that if he believes increasingly questionable things he might succumb to increasingly questoinable actions.


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Re: My buddy's taken in by a cult of anti vax, anti covid measures, trump praising rightwing cult. [Re: Asante] * 1
    #27052460 - 11/22/20 03:45 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

What we are seeing is people have no reliable source of "truth* to turn to. The media certainly does lie, almost every political leader since the 60s has been a liar, science though evidence based is often full of bullshit conclusions from even more bullshit hypotheses, religion is dying, social media creates an overwhelming push or pull effect and for many it's hard to find their way.

Added to this is the hate culture in the name of broader acceptance and political correctness. Apparently we are all androgenous and indefinable by any characteristic now, and if you deny that you are discriminating against someone/somehow/somewhere and it is your fault for not being sensitive enough to realise that.

Then comes the great Equalizer. The group who literally revels in having mud thrown at them. They will grab onto the most preposterous and insane ideas and claim them as truth, and the fact that every truth is beaten down anyway, just reaffirms their position that the ridiculous must be the most logical because it is the most vociferously opposed.

You did this PC generation. You made the improbable a logical conclusion by being such douchebags about everything. Now you reap what you have sown.


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Re: My buddy's taken in by a cult of anti vax, anti covid measures, trump praising rightwing cult. [Re: Niffla] * 3
    #27052489 - 11/22/20 04:11 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Niffla said:

You could apply this exactly to both political bases in the United States, the far left is just as much of a cult as the far right 

Anyway let him believe what he wants to, that's his right, and it's your right to either still consider him a friend despite disagreeing with him or not consider him a friend




Oh wow, are you really trying this shit? No, there's clearly one side that's anchored itself to caustic anti-reason bullshit and it ain't the Left. Get your head out of your ass and look around you!


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Re: My buddy's taken in by a cult of anti vax, anti covid measures, trump praising rightwing cult. [Re: THT] * 2
    #27052562 - 11/22/20 05:01 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

And immediately after trying to explain the conundrum there's another great example of how media formulated and divisionist policy play come to sway people's minds.

Far anything is clearly extremist and inherently violent. Left, right, up, down or sideways.

Stalin and Lenin were far left THT, they enabled some of the bloodiest genocides in human history, but you claim that philosophy is where it's at? Don't be so blinded by your emotions not to realise what happens when you exclude everything else that does not fit your narrative. I'm not saying far right is fantastic either, which will be the modern response (if you're not with us you're against us), just that truth is not absolute.


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Re: My buddy's taken in by a cult of anti vax, anti covid measures, trump praising rightwing cult. [Re: THT] * 3
    #27052588 - 11/22/20 05:12 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Oh wow, are you really trying this shit? No, there's clearly one side that's anchored itself to caustic anti-reason bullshit and it ain't the Left. Get your head out of your ass and look around you!




Yes, I am. And absolutely I think the far left are just as much of a cancer in this country as the far right. This being a site dominated by leftist ideals (many of which I do agree with by the way, I am a huge supporter of psychedelics after all), I don't expect it to be a popular opinion. Which is okay. But yes that is my opinion. If it makes you feel any better though I do loathe the far right just as much for the record.

But yes that is my opinion, and feel free to disagree. As you have. I respect your right to have a differing belief.

:raisemyglass:

Just as I do Asante's friend, too. So long as he isn't pushing Asante to believe what he believes, I feel he is entitled to believe whatever he wants to, as I feel everyone has that right.


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Re: My buddy's taken in by a cult of anti vax, anti covid measures, trump praising rightwing cult. [Re: Northerner]
    #27052600 - 11/22/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Don't be so blinded by your emotions not to realise what happens when you exclude everything else that does not fit your narrative. I'm not saying far right is fantastic either, which will be the modern response (if you're not with us you're against us), just that truth is not absolute.




Well said, Northerner.


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Re: My buddy's taken in by a cult of anti vax, anti covid measures, trump praising rightwing cult. [Re: Asante]
    #27052699 - 11/22/20 06:00 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Thats part of the incalculable damage incurred to having had a president who fanned the flames of such divisional nonsense.

Tons of people need a cult rescue from a cult that isnt even a proper cult but a decentralized cesspool of people gobbling up whatever unlikely shit crapped out in front of them.

Many people lost the capacity to discern shit from shinola.

Thats a very important quality for an individual to have.}

Yu seriously have people believing in a flat earth and a faked moon landing and that the queen of england is a latex mask worn by an ACTUAL REPTILE FROM OUTER SPACE.

You can think of the queen of england what you will but, an actual reptile wearing a human mask from an alien civilization?  And truly BELIEVE that that is reality?

Sure, a question raised by your talks-to-God-imaginary-friend admin but.. Seriously?

I open all relevant doors to manifest the superpostition where it is a possibility I talk with a part of me, I talk with a Daimon/Spirit guide or whatever the phenomenon may be, that I created a Tulpa or that my difficult childhood split my personality, or that it's actually a Deity addressing me. I let that superposition of all possibility be and sometimes collapse it into this, then into that, play with all notions and let it be as a superposition of possibilities. But to actually collapse your reality into the Single Truth that there is a baby eating space reptile hiding as the queen of england... Get the fuck outta town. Thats not investigating and exploring all aspects of a superposition, that's not leaving the question open , that's investing total belief in a bunch of DooDooCaCa and before you know it, you're one of the tens of millions of social media followers of this guy:





Your fans like chocolate and cock-and-bull stories, we get it.



I'm sorry my friend it's sad how lifelong relationships are being ruined by cultism


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Re: My buddy's taken in by a cult of anti vax, anti covid measures, trump praising rightwing cult. [Re: Niffla]
    #27052743 - 11/22/20 06:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Oh wow, are you really trying this shit? No, there's clearly one side that's anchored itself to caustic anti-reason bullshit and it ain't the Left. Get your head out of your ass and look around you!




Yes, I am. And absolutely I think the far left are just as much of a cancer in this country as the far right. This being a site dominated by leftist ideals (many of which I do agree with by the way, I am a huge supporter of psychedelics after all), I don't expect it to be a popular opinion. Which is okay. But yes that is my opinion. If it makes you feel any better though I do loathe the far right just as much for the record.

But yes that is my opinion, and feel free to disagree. As you have. I respect your right to have a differing belief.

:raisemyglass:

Just as I do Asante's friend, too. So long as he isn't pushing Asante to believe what he believes, I feel he is entitled to believe whatever he wants to, as I feel everyone has that right.



I agree Niffy is a perfect example of someone that i love and refuse to hate because of our political differences. Someone brought up in a different thread that somehow "free thinking" shroomites wouldn't be as susceptible to being a Trump supporter which is insinuating Every single Trump supporter is brainwashed dumbasses and some are no doubt. Same on the left at times but Niffy is an example of someone who never went out and protested against masks in public, he didn't beat up or berate people that were Biden supporters, he hasn't been peddling conspiracy theories straight from Trump or fox news. Niffy simply has difference in political opinions which is the backbone of democracy and truly productive debate.


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Re: My buddy's taken in by a cult of anti vax, anti covid measures, trump praising rightwing cult. [Re: morrowasted]
    #27052805 - 11/22/20 07:03 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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morrowasted said:
https://medium.com/curiouserinstitute/a-game-designers-analysis-of-qanon-580972548be5

Asante and Koods, read this article if you haven't already. It's perfect. Really long but absolutely worth every minute of the time it takes to read.

"A Game Designer's Analysis of Q-Anon: Playing with Reality"





That's a great article.  Makes perfect sense.


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Re: My buddy's taken in by a cult of anti vax, anti covid measures, trump praising rightwing cult. [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #27052806 - 11/22/20 07:04 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Niffla said:
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Oh wow, are you really trying this shit? No, there's clearly one side that's anchored itself to caustic anti-reason bullshit and it ain't the Left. Get your head out of your ass and look around you!




Yes, I am. And absolutely I think the far left are just as much of a cancer in this country as the far right. This being a site dominated by leftist ideals (many of which I do agree with by the way, I am a huge supporter of psychedelics after all), I don't expect it to be a popular opinion. Which is okay. But yes that is my opinion. If it makes you feel any better though I do loathe the far right just as much for the record.

But yes that is my opinion, and feel free to disagree. As you have. I respect your right to have a differing belief.

:raisemyglass:

Just as I do Asante's friend, too. So long as he isn't pushing Asante to believe what he believes, I feel he is entitled to believe whatever he wants to, as I feel everyone has that right.



I agree Niffy is a perfect example of someone that i love and refuse to hate because of our political differences. Someone brought up in a different thread that somehow "free thinking" shroomites wouldn't be as susceptible to being a Trump supporter which is insinuating Every single Trump supporter is brainwashed dumbasses and some are no doubt. Same on the left at times but Niffy is an example of someone who never went out and protested against masks in public, he didn't beat up or berate people that were Biden supporters, he hasn't been peddling conspiracy theories straight from Trump or fox news. Niffy simply has difference in political opinions which is the backbone of democracy and truly productive debate.






You're gonna get me all emotional in here lol

:emotionalmoment:

And I have absolutely nothing against liberal moderates or conservative moderates for the record. In fact I have many moderate leanings/beliefs on both sides of the political fence.

It's the far right and left that bother me, because both seem to be driven by pure hatred for the other side, their ideologies are on opposite spectrums but the one thing they both seem to share is a bloodthirsty hatred for the other that is matched in intensity. I think that type of hate and inability to understand one another even in disagreement only takes us backwards. I don't care whatsoever what one's politics are at all so long as they can be able to sit down as adults and discuss maturely and respectfully without attacking one another.

As for Biden, I hope he does well. I'm rooting for him to do well. At the end of the day I'm a citizen of this country and I want all of our Presidents to succeed, because if they do well the country as a whole will be better off for it. I have met so many people on both sides who would rather root for a president to fail just because they're on the other side of the political fence, and I think that is absolutely disgusting because in essence that person is actively rooting for the country to fail because they'd rather that president look bad than their own country do well. I'm going to root for Biden to do well the same way I rooted for Trump to do well, and Obama, and Bush W, and Clinton, etc.

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Re: My buddy's taken in by a cult of anti vax, anti covid measures, trump praising rightwing cult. [Re: Niffla] * 3
    #27052813 - 11/22/20 07:07 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

"QAnon grows on the wild misinterpretation of random data, presented in a suggestive fashion in a milieu designed to help the users come to the intended misunderstanding. Maybe “guided apophenia” is a better phrase. Guided because the puppet masters are directly involved in hinting about the desired conclusions. They have pre-seeded the conclusions. They are constantly getting the player lost by pointing out unrelated random events and creating a meaning for them that fits the propaganda message Q is delivering.

There is no reality here. No actual solution in the real world. Instead, this is a breadcrumb trail AWAY from reality. Away from actual solutions and towards a dangerous psychological rush. It works very well because when you “figure it out yourself” you own it. You experience the thrill of discovery, the excitement of the rabbit hole, the acceptance of a community that loves and respects you."


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Re: My buddy's taken in by a cult of anti vax, anti covid measures, trump praising rightwing cult. [Re: THT] * 1
    #27052961 - 11/22/20 08:53 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Niffla said:

You could apply this exactly to both political bases in the United States, the far left is just as much of a cult as the far right 

Anyway let him believe what he wants to, that's his right, and it's your right to either still consider him a friend despite disagreeing with him or not consider him a friend




Oh wow, are you really trying this shit? No, there's clearly one side that's anchored itself to caustic anti-reason bullshit and it ain't the Left. Get your head out of your ass and look around you!





Unfortunately when you are referring to Un-thinking bullshit, yes both fringes are pretty equal. To believe otherwise is pretty much exposing your political bias. For Fucks sake, democrats are trying to tell us kids who need a diaper can decide their gender and are acting like racism has made zero progress since 1960.

Now if we started talking about politicians of both sides acting unethically or lying. Or both parties are equally corrupt or equally bought by corporations then both sides are far from equal. Republicans politicians have adopted a bit more corruption and a bit less un-thinking. Democratic politicians seem more able to engage in un-thinking but less of a proclivity to corruption.


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