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OfflinePatlal
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Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away.
    #27051095 - 11/21/20 08:10 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

How are you doing as a Trump supporter?

Surely you are royally pissed off by the election, but are you positive at all?

The USA can't be completely changed with 4 years of Biden.

What do you think Biden will try to do in order to please Trump followers?


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Patlal] * 5
    #27051110 - 11/21/20 08:27 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

We could have 8 years of biden.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #27051123 - 11/21/20 08:40 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Executive action about limiting anything requires lobbying and legislation for any real change


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 2
    #27051139 - 11/21/20 08:51 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Haven't accepted defeat yet. I keep hearing talk about some major evidence being withheld to be presented in court so I'm holding out hope on whatever that turns out to be.

But I have a feeling Biden isn't even gonna live through his first term. I think it's the brown Hillary Clinton people should be thinking of.

But also, why does nobody ever pay any attention to the power of demographics on this site? Biden himself may not be able to do a ton in 4 years, but the guy promised no deportations for at least a hundred days and nobody knows how long that might extend. That is basically an invitation for a ton of people to flood over here that will almost all vote democrat when given the chance (and if I remember right, WikiLeaks showed that democrat cities were already letting them with drivers license). That's why some democrats were referring to their Latino voter base as the "taco bowl" in some of those same emails. The ones that don't vote for them they call white supremacists lol. But you make a move that sets in some kind of large demographic sway to people who vote a certain way, that's already one step taken to change future generations within one presidency. Especially if they go ahead and manage to get felons and children to also vote and abolish the EC like the Dems have suggested.

I honestly don't think Biden will try to do anything for Trump supporters. The crazy left that are much louder and crazier than the rest of the left would bully him if he tried to anyway


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Patlal] * 3
    #27051157 - 11/21/20 08:57 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I expect him to be another Obama or Clinton. Not all that left at all economically, and differing from Republicans mainly on select hot button topics. But as usual, regardless of the party in power, moneyed interests are in no real danger of disruption.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: psi] * 9
    #27051187 - 11/21/20 09:26 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I think it's the brown Hillary Clinton people should be thinking of.


Jesus Christ, imagine having the kind of brain that would compel you to say some shit like this.

she is extremely different from clinton. but I'm 99% sure you're just calling her that because she is a woman


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: psi] * 4
    #27051190 - 11/21/20 09:28 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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psi said:
I expect him to be another Obama or Clinton. Not all that left at all economically, and differing from Republicans mainly on select hot button topics. But as usual, regardless of the party in power, moneyed interests are in no real danger of disruption.



I am hoping that Harris and Sanders push his policies further left. I think there is a decent chance they will. Sanders is supposed to be Secretary of Labor under Biden I believe. Which means all of his minimum wage increase stuff, etc. seems more likely to become a reality


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: morrowasted] * 4
    #27051257 - 11/21/20 10:16 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

-Fuck Biden
-I'm not a Trump supporter
-Nobody is taking my 45 away which, incidentally, is a .455 Webley made in 19th century England, over a century before they wrongfully banned handguns from their citizenry.
-$15 minimum wage will have a very detrimental impact on the economy and I do not support it.
-No matter who is president, at least the U.S. does'nt brutally massacre tens ov thousands ov baby seals every year like Canada.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: lavod] * 8
    #27051265 - 11/21/20 10:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

that took a turn for the weird


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: morrowasted] * 5
    #27051300 - 11/21/20 10:54 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I'm hoping Trump's militia tries to start a civil war and Biden drone strikes them into a pink mist

Actually, no. I take that back. I'm hoping to pick up some hella tacticool gear from the corpses. I don't want it getting too banged up.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: lavod] * 4
    #27051301 - 11/21/20 10:54 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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lavod said:
-Fuck Biden
-I'm not a Trump supporter
-Nobody is taking my 45 away which, incidentally, is a .455 Webley made in 19th century England, over a century before they wrongfully banned handguns from their citizenry.
-$15 minimum wage will have a very detrimental impact on the economy and I do not support it.
-No matter who is president, at least the U.S. does'nt brutally massacre tens ov thousands ov baby seals every year like Canada.




im curious why you think raising the minimum wage to 15$ would have a very detrimental impact on the economy? it's not been raised in decades, and is very, VERY far behind inflation. raising it to 15$ isn't even really properly fixing it to the proper "level" of living wage it was originally intended to be when it was first implemented. it really should be higher, and tied to the costs of inflation so that we aren't having to constantly fix it far too late, leaving the masses starved and unable to have spending money - which boosts the economy.

far, far more than few billionaires buying a luxury vehicle or two.

the wealth of america is not built on the backs of bezos deciding to drop a cool billion here and there on a rocket. it's built on the millions of americans making purchases on amazon every day, people buying cheap crap at wal-mart, the poor masses buying canned foods for thanksgiving. raising their very shitty minimum wage to a decent living wage would drastically increase their spending power, causing a "wellspring of wealth" effect that is the foundation of any economy.

the world can and has survived before without billionaires and trillionares. it cannot, however, survive without a healthy population of middle class workers. such countries that neglect their citizens eventually collapse or wind up with revolution and reformation due to an angry and starving populace.

no one (reasonable) is asking for the minimum wage to be raised to 1000$ an hour. i mean, we could, but it would just cause chaos, a bunch of headaches, more money would have to be printed to actually handle the amounts of money in circulation needed for that kind of wages to be paid, and all it would do is...well, the same thing as paying people a living wage in the first place. the markets would balance out, we'd wind up with 100$ cheeseburger meals, but people would be able to afford them, and change would be a pain in the ass to deal with.

raising the minimum wage to 15$ an hour would also cause a bit of chaos and headaches, but it's much more managable - the government could, for instance, immediately raise the wage to 15$ an hour, help absorb some of the inital wage hike costs for the first year or two and phase that out as time goes on. this way, we're not waiting for wages to get to livable levels for TEN MORE YEARS, the economy gets boosted, and employers and the economy have time to adjust. plus, the government will easily recoup much of the costs via sales taxes - because raising around 44% of americans wages (the amount that make less than 15% an hour) will dramatically boost the amount of purchasing power going on!


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Psion]
    #27051306 - 11/21/20 10:58 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Minimum wage should be at least $11.



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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Baby_Hitler] * 1
    #27051320 - 11/21/20 11:12 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

i dunno - you gotta also take into account the cost of housing, and healthcare, which have gone up dramatically as a % of overall spending. for instance, between my rent, electricity/heating, obamacare (cheap because i'm poor, but not fully free) and basic internet - it's 495 + 130ish (wintertime and going up) + 60 + 33 a month. and i only make 2 paychecks of roughly 495 in a typical month (biweekly pay) at michigan minimum wage ($9.65 an hour), plus 3 times a year a lucky "bonus check" when theres 3 paychecks that fall in a month.

that's roughly 72% of my living expenses right there. 11$ an hour would only change that to 63% or so of my living expenses at best. better, but hardly anything close to the 30% rule of thumb that your rent (including utilities) that your rent should be.

and this is not some glam apartment either, nor an unreasonably high rent cost for the area. the problem is, the cost of living has just gone up, WAY up, while living wages have stagnated terribly.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Baby_Hitler] * 3
    #27051364 - 11/22/20 12:19 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Minimum wage should be at least $11.



I think it should be 20 an hour.:shrug:


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 1
    #27051371 - 11/22/20 12:46 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

20$ an hour WOULD put mine, and a lot of other peoples rent, including utilities, down in the "roughly 30% of total gross income" category again. not saying you're wrong or right, but it does sound about right.

of course, some cities 20$ an hour still isn't quite enough, do to the sheer cost of living due to high demand, skyrocketing housing costs, etc etc, but for most cities, that would be pretty good - it would allow people to afford rent, actual food that isn't processed shit that poisons their bodies, let them see the doctor more than every 10 years, pay all their bills without deciding which ones they will have to avoid paying this month, and care for their kids.

all of this adds up to, you guessed it, way, WAY, less stress, leading to far greater mental health. this means less people turning to drugs and substance abuse, less lashing out against loved ones and crimes of desperation (and acts of crime period), less suicides, less burden on the healthcare system (leading to lower costs for everyone), and just overall benefits to all of society. (and lower costs.) higher wages might seem pricey, but it's not a cost - it's an investment. an investment in the future. an investment in your fellow human beings.

an investment that pays dividends to your own future as well.

kurzgesagt did an excellent video (and has many other excellent videos) explaining why you should have a selfish interest in caring about others well-being:

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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Psion] * 4
    #27051498 - 11/22/20 05:05 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour is a good way to cause extreme inflation.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: lowbrow]
    #27051534 - 11/22/20 06:04 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Anecdotal-ly I see more self service kiosks for checking out or ordering food at fast food restaurants in states with higher min wage and more adults bagging groceries, etc.  I would like to see the minimum wage for employees under 18 stay low, so that those entry level jobs don't disappear and kids can still get part time jobs while living at home.  Over 18, a living wage.

I have a relative who is a Better Business Board type republican that was very upset that trump was actually stopping undocumented aliens because of the cheap labor. He will lecture about how we need the Guatemalans to landscape and the pickers to pick the fruits and on and on. I think there is a large portion of the never trump republicans like him who are perfectly happy having this secondary exploitable work force. I think the traditional democrats also feel this way and they will let further left others call for open borders for humanitarian reasons but the reality is they want cheap labor. I have multiple people in positions of power at where I work who are democrats and have a cleaning lady named Rosa.

The whole idea that the left wants them here to vote is b.s. designed to rile up the America first trump populists. The establishment wants cheap labor and the fact that people argue both for high min wage and open borders should be a clue.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: morrowasted]
    #27051554 - 11/22/20 06:32 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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morrowasted said:
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I think it's the brown Hillary Clinton people should be thinking of.


Jesus Christ, imagine having the kind of brain that would compel you to say some shit like this.

she is extremely different from clinton. but I'm 99% sure you're just calling her that because she is a woman




This was both funny and fucked up at the same time. Fucnny? <---- if that catches, please remember this day. Ages from now kids will gather around the camp fire singing about the old days. They will ask how the single most important word of all time was created.

It came from a man, an average man. It was early morning and he had gone to the bathroom and drank a beer while waiting for his ps5 to finish transferring gta5. To kill time he read a few threads on that old timey site, the shroomery, and that's when it happened. It was like his mind exploded into some sort of new energy. His mind had transcended..

"Wow! Oh my gosh! Yippee!"

You know, kids. You can visit that very bathroom, but it has a hefty ticket price.. to me it's worth it though. Some say the empty beer can is still there...



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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: psi]
    #27052404 - 11/22/20 02:57 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I expect him to be another Obama or Clinton. Not all that left at all economically, and differing from Republicans mainly on select hot button topics. But as usual, regardless of the party in power, moneyed interests are in no real danger of disruption.



This


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: lavod] * 3
    #27052447 - 11/22/20 03:37 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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lavod said:
-Fuck Biden
-I'm not a Trump supporter
-Nobody is taking my 45 away which, incidentally, is a .455 Webley made in 19th century England, over a century before they wrongfully banned handguns from their citizenry.
-$15 minimum wage will have a very detrimental impact on the economy and I do not support it.
-No matter who is president, at least the U.S. does'nt brutally massacre tens ov thousands ov baby seals every year like Canada.




Take a breath.  Trump is #45.  Also, please fix your keyboard.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: schmutzen]
    #27052462 - 11/22/20 03:46 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I think he just prefers to spell it that way.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: lavod] * 1
    #27052469 - 11/22/20 03:52 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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-No matter who is president, at least the U.S. does'nt brutally massacre tens ov thousands ov baby seals every year like Canada.




take the seal hunt away from the natives and they are fucked, a lot of them its the only way they make money, the oil companies want to buy out thier land, take away their seal hunting and they might sell out the land, the destruction the oil will cause will kill even more seals then they kill


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: lavod]
    #27052490 - 11/22/20 04:12 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

lavod said:
-Fuck Biden
-I'm not a Trump supporter
-Nobody is taking my 45 away which, incidentally, is a .455 Webley made in 19th century England, over a century before they wrongfully banned handguns from their citizenry.
-$15 minimum wage will have a very detrimental impact on the economy and I do not support it.
-No matter who is president, at least the U.S. does'nt brutally massacre tens ov thousands ov baby seals every year like Canada.



You do know Biden has no plan of taking people 45 calibers right?


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #27052508 - 11/22/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

his VP wants to lower meat consumption though, thats crazy for a politician to be in charge of that


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: gopher]
    #27052563 - 11/22/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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his VP wants to lower meat consumption though, thats crazy for a politician to be in charge of that



Luckily she isn't in control of that. I sure haven't hear that but if true it's stupid but won't pass in legislations


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Baby_Hitler] * 4
    #27052643 - 11/22/20 05:31 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm hoping Trump's militia tries to start a civil war and Biden drone strikes them into a pink mist

Actually, no. I take that back. I'm hoping to pick up some hella tacticool gear from the corpses. I don't want it getting too banged up.




Jesus, man.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised though considering your screen name is Baby Hitler that you'd actively root for a civil war so Trump supporters can be drone striked into a pink mist in which you'd then take hella cool tactical gear off whatever is left of their corpses.

Heart warming post for sure.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #27052652 - 11/22/20 05:32 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Part of me will be in the "Pink Mist":fuckthisshit::beatingtodeath:


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Texas Honey Badger]
    #27052662 - 11/22/20 05:38 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Part of me will be in the "Pink Mist":fuckthisshit::beatingtodeath:




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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Niffla]
    #27052671 - 11/22/20 05:46 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I changed my mind, i will be a sniper instead:crankeytom:


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Niffla]
    #27052675 - 11/22/20 05:48 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

biden sells arms to terrorists... all hes going to do is painfully regulate them to be priced out of the lower class, which is what we all want


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Texas Honey Badger]
    #27052679 - 11/22/20 05:50 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I changed my mind, i will be a sniper instead:crankeytom:




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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Crazy_Horse] * 1
    #27052863 - 11/22/20 07:46 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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We could have 8 years of biden.




I seriously doubt he'll live that long. Disregarding the politics, his cognitive abilities have declined significantly in the past 5 years. If he is still even alive, Kamala will be the nominee. She'll lose unless the republicans pick someone like Ted Cruz, which thanks to Trump isn't really a viable GOP candidate anymore.

I do think the progressive left are in for a rude awakening about where they stand in the democratic party. Look at who Biden has chosen to surround himself with already. Corporate and wall street types. Biden comes from the same bloodline as the Clintons, Romney, and Bushes. There is a reason they are all so chummy. Prepared to be shut out by corporate democrats. The wealthy will prosper and everyone below that is going to be hit with stagnant wages, low GDP growth, and outsourcing of good paying jobs for people who do not have a college education to fall back on.

Anyways, to answer your question OP. The senate isn't going to change their filibuster rules. More than anything I was concerned about that. Trump got ACB on the court, so the most radical of agendas will be rejected, and the senate will be a check on certain laws. GOP will have a great midterm, and 2024 with Kamala as the candidate, I am cautiously optimistic the GOP will pick someone to win.

I was bummed about the presidential results, but down ballot elections means not much will get done for the next 4 years. The only thing I really worry about is Biden's foreign policy with China and Iran.

Biden won't be able to win back people who voted for Obama but switched to Trump. Very few of these type of voters switched to Biden in 2020. Biden's biggest gains were with white, post-grad and upper class white suburbs. Whoever the GOP nominee is just has to win back about 10 key counties in the rust belt and they will win. These are people who voted for Bush, Romney, McCain, and then Clinton and Biden.

Biden won't commit to steel tariffs or increases in the energy sector. I really don't think there's much he can do to win back Trump supporters. The veil of who the democratic party really is (other than Obama), and the RINOs like Romney, McCain, Bush, etc has been exposed. The most leftist agenda of the democratic party is no longer hidden, and progressives have put themselves in the limelight.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: withoutawire]
    #27052884 - 11/22/20 08:02 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Joe came by and took all my guns today. He looked pretty tired.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: christopera]
    #27052911 - 11/22/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Your Guns arn't going to be "Taken" the fixed price of high cap firearms will exponentially increase by a series of threat based, legislative, market manipulations. They're not going to keep you from buying it but the "supply and demand" will be stupid for 4years. I believe there are heavily invested democratic control into caches of munitions available for positive liquidity when it is their turn to manipulate the narratives and gun markets.


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    #27052950 - 11/22/20 08:45 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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-No matter who is president, at least the U.S. does'nt brutally massacre tens ov thousands ov baby seals every year like Canada.




take the seal hunt away from the natives and they are fucked, a lot of them its the only way they make money, the oil companies want to buy out thier land, take away their seal hunting and they might sell out the land, the destruction the oil will cause will kill even more seals then they kill




The commercial seal hunt which I am, and the majority ov Canadians are, opposed to is partaken ov by mostly NON-NATIVE fisherman who make an average ov 4% their yearly salary from the cull. Pro-sealers just love that native straw-man defense despite the fact that the COMMERCIAL cull is non-sustenance and a predominantly French Canadian slaughter ov harp and grey seals. 

Apologies for not understanding what Patlal meant by 45. I was cranky and in a rush when I made that post. Anyway, Biden is opposed to gun rights so.... fuck Biden.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Grungeman17]
    #27052958 - 11/22/20 08:52 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I think the cost of living should just quit going up and then wages should become stagnant. A person's wage should be based on education and experience. Jobs should be like stepping Stones where each one takes you to a new level of experience and responsibility. Staying at a retail, janitorial or restaurant position for a whole lifetime without trying to better your skills or get a higher education should be looked down upon.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Sugabearcrisp] * 2
    #27052982 - 11/22/20 09:05 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Anecdotal-ly I see more self service kiosks for checking out or ordering food at fast food restaurants in states with higher min wage and more adults bagging groceries, etc.  I would like to see the minimum wage for employees under 18 stay low, so that those entry level jobs don't disappear and kids can still get part time jobs while living at home.  Over 18, a living wage.

I have a relative who is a Better Business Board type republican that was very upset that trump was actually stopping undocumented aliens because of the cheap labor. He will lecture about how we need the Guatemalans to landscape and the pickers to pick the fruits and on and on. I think there is a large portion of the never trump republicans like him who are perfectly happy having this secondary exploitable work force. I think the traditional democrats also feel this way and they will let further left others call for open borders for humanitarian reasons but the reality is they want cheap labor. I have multiple people in positions of power at where I work who are democrats and have a cleaning lady named Rosa.

The whole idea that the left wants them here to vote is b.s. designed to rile up the America first trump populists. The establishment wants cheap labor and the fact that people argue both for high min wage and open borders should be a clue.




honestly, i've lived in big, small, and currently in a tiny sized town (population ~5,000, near a 30k town.) there's self serve kiosks everywhere now, regardless, and have been for a long time. this is not something that minimum wage will keep at bay - it's because robots are simply cheaper than humans. oh look, another video that in a nutshell explains really well, and why automation isn't the same as previous times:

[embed=425,344]http://
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also, another video by them that explains about universal basic income and it's potential upsides and downsides:



we're reaching an ugly problem right now, where the world has a plethora of resources, but the people who've suffered hardships in the past want the people of the future to suffer as hard as they did, because it's "not fair" that people in the future don't suffer as much as they did. it's like wishing for future generations to suffer cancer because your mother died of cancer, to "build character". people having to work two to three jobs at 40 to 60 hours a week, BOTH PARENTS, just to make ends meet, while CEO's go shitting on golden toilets and enjoying vampire facials is not building character. it's just plain cruelty.

"but what about those lazy people who will abuse the system of free money and buy drugs and beer and" STOP IT. THAT'S PROPAGANDA BY THE VERY RICH PEOPLE WHO WANT YOU TO BELIEVE THOSE LIES SO THEY CAN CONTINUE TO ABUSE THE SYSTEM WHILE YOU SQUABBLE OVER SCRAPS.

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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind] * 4
    #27052994 - 11/22/20 09:15 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I think the cost of living should just quit going up and then wages should become stagnant. A person's wage should be based on education and experience. Jobs should be like stepping Stones where each one takes you to a new level of experience and responsibility. Staying at a retail, janitorial or restaurant position for a whole lifetime without trying to better your skills or get a higher education should be looked down upon.




excuse me, but why should they be looked down upon? have you ever considered a city WITHOUT janitors? have you ever seen a city where the trashmen go on strike for a while? it becomes a cesspit - very, very fast. likewise, losing a good janitor in a school or building hurts a business - they keep the place clean and help keep diseases from spreading. and seriously, it's fucking hard work, while exposing yourself to toxic chemicals.

likewise, retail is punishing work. you're dealing with karens all day while having to put on a smile even when not feeling it, putting your life at risk sometimes from people robbing your cash register, you get exposed to hundreds or thousands of customers a day (meaning lots of exposure to disease), and have you ever seen how nightmarish it gets during holiday seasons? black friday? christmas? the same goes for restaurants. you're saying this takes no skill? and for all you know, they're spending their free time in the afternoon learning programing or reading books on theoretical physics. for fun.

i'm not saying wages shouldn't reflect education and experience, but even basic jobs like that should be living wages. there should not be any punishment for such jobs, because even such jobs like that need to be done by somebody, and there are not enough advanced jobs for everyone on earth. shaming people for doing needed jobs is ridiculous and makes you look foolish. you're better than that.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Psion]
    #27053020 - 11/22/20 09:33 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I don't mean "shaming" but why would anybody want to be a janitor their whole lives?


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27053070 - 11/22/20 09:48 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

i mean hes def gunna take all the guna tf am i talking aboot


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind] * 1
    #27053078 - 11/22/20 09:50 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

maybe they enjoy cleaning, like I enjoy doing dishes at home, I find the running water meditative almost, the only reason I dont run out and get a dishwashing job is cause I dont think itd be the same, they probably hound you to go faster, and it probably sucks, if they let me do it how I wanted I think itd be awesome though


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    #27053157 - 11/22/20 10:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

The father of a guy I knew was a movie ticket taker his whole life, well into his 80s. Interestingly he became part of the whole mythology of the area, the old man who takes your ticket at x theater.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Niffla]
    #27053159 - 11/22/20 10:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm hoping Trump's militia tries to start a civil war and Biden drone strikes them into a pink mist

Actually, no. I take that back. I'm hoping to pick up some hella tacticool gear from the corpses. I don't want it getting too banged up.




Jesus, man.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised though considering your screen name is Baby Hitler that you'd actively root for a civil war so Trump supporters can be drone striked into a pink mist in which you'd then take hella cool tactical gear off whatever is left of their corpses.

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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind] * 1
    #27053162 - 11/22/20 10:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't mean "shaming" but why would anybody want to be a janitor their whole lives?




why would anyone want to do calculus their whole lives? ::shudder:: the mystery escapes me, but some people ENJOY being math professors or physicists. gods help their twisted souls. likewise for people who want to to a lawyer - i certainly wouldn't want to go through the headaches of politics and dealing with other peoples lives hanging on my understanding of what some persons intent of a word meant 200 years ago.

quite frankly, your post sounded exactly what it sounded like. shaming. you sounded like people should be ashamed for enjoying being what they are, instead of simply taking pride in their work, whatever it might be. there shouldn't be any shame in taking pride in a job well done. trying to shame people for having a "lesser job" simply is sabotaging everyone's well being - don't you WANT a cashier that takes pride in their work, who wants to make customers have a nice day? why do you think so many cashiers feel so apathetic and don't engage customers?

it's because they get paid sub-living wages, are stressed out, and don't feel apreciated for their job, and are told their job isn't something to take pride in. that it's something "worthless", to get a "real job".

maybe if they were paid real wages and told they were working a real job...they'd act like they were working a real job. just a suggestion. shocking, i know. people actually responding to complements and being treated well. it only works if you give both though. complements without being treated well is just empty platitudes. being treated well without complements is better, but leaves people missing needed feedback.

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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Psion]
    #27053316 - 11/23/20 03:29 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I feel like the only people working in retail and restaurants should be high schoolers or college students. $8/hr jobs are not something you do forever. That's not what I was taught anyway. It's just that nowadays the job market sucks so hard that adults with better skills or higher intelligence are having to take on these "lower" jobs.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: psi] * 1
    #27053355 - 11/23/20 04:46 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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The father of a guy I knew was a movie ticket taker his whole life, well into his 80s. Interestingly he became part of the whole mythology of the area, the old man who takes your ticket at x theater.




This guy???




For the record when I was a kid (I'm 46) in Scarborough he had been ripping tickets at Cederbrae (which is long gone) for fucking ever even then and was already a legend. We probably know the same son, name starts with T


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Psion]
    #27053440 - 11/23/20 06:34 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Anecdotal-ly I see more self service kiosks for checking out or ordering food at fast food restaurants in states with higher min wage and more adults bagging groceries, etc.  I would like to see the minimum wage for employees under 18 stay low, so that those entry level jobs don't disappear and kids can still get part time jobs while living at home.  Over 18, a living wage.

I have a relative who is a Better Business Board type republican that was very upset that trump was actually stopping undocumented aliens because of the cheap labor. He will lecture about how we need the Guatemalans to landscape and the pickers to pick the fruits and on and on. I think there is a large portion of the never trump republicans like him who are perfectly happy having this secondary exploitable work force. I think the traditional democrats also feel this way and they will let further left others call for open borders for humanitarian reasons but the reality is they want cheap labor. I have multiple people in positions of power at where I work who are democrats and have a cleaning lady named Rosa.

The whole idea that the left wants them here to vote is b.s. designed to rile up the America first trump populists. The establishment wants cheap labor and the fact that people argue both for high min wage and open borders should be a clue.




honestly, i've lived in big, small, and currently in a tiny sized town (population ~5,000, near a 30k town.) there's self serve kiosks everywhere now, regardless, and have been for a long time. this is not something that minimum wage will keep at bay - it's because robots are simply cheaper than humans. oh look, another video that in a nutshell explains really well, and why automation isn't the same as previous times:

[embed=425,344]http://
/embed]

also, another video by them that explains about universal basic income and it's potential upsides and downsides:



we're reaching an ugly problem right now, where the world has a plethora of resources, but the people who've suffered hardships in the past want the people of the future to suffer as hard as they did, because it's "not fair" that people in the future don't suffer as much as they did. it's like wishing for future generations to suffer cancer because your mother died of cancer, to "build character". people having to work two to three jobs at 40 to 60 hours a week, BOTH PARENTS, just to make ends meet, while CEO's go shitting on golden toilets and enjoying vampire facials is not building character. it's just plain cruelty.

"but what about those lazy people who will abuse the system of free money and buy drugs and beer and" STOP IT. THAT'S PROPAGANDA BY THE VERY RICH PEOPLE WHO WANT YOU TO BELIEVE THOSE LIES SO THEY CAN CONTINUE TO ABUSE THE SYSTEM WHILE YOU SQUABBLE OVER SCRAPS.

the real welfare queens are the mega rich who evade taxes and abuse the poor while getting those poor to doubt the inherent goodness of their neighbors, fearing each other instead of loving each other.




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    #27053458 - 11/23/20 07:01 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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The father of a guy I knew was a movie ticket taker his whole life, well into his 80s. Interestingly he became part of the whole mythology of the area, the old man who takes your ticket at x theater.




This guy???




For the record when I was a kid (I'm 46) in Scarborough he had been ripping tickets at Cederbrae (which is long gone) for fucking ever even then and was already a legend. We probably know the same son, name starts with T




Yep same guy. Small world. Don't remember noticing him at Cedarbrae but I knew that he had worked there before Morningside. I assume the son you knew is the same guy. He was dating my wife's sister when I met him. Haven't seen him in a few years as he moved out to the boonies.


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    #27053487 - 11/23/20 07:29 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Guess I am derailing this thread but you are like 2/3 degrees separation from Paul Bernardo and the barenaked ladies. Scarborough was great growing up we had epic valley parties off Orton Park and the Highland Creek valley and the bluffs. One of my buddies was on Degrassi Jr High and used to drop acid with the cast....


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    #27053511 - 11/23/20 07:48 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

As a kid I had a piano teacher who had taught one or two of the Barenaked Ladies. He was this real overbearing stress case.

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    #27054591 - 11/23/20 08:23 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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we're reaching an ugly problem right now, where the world has a plethora of resources, but the people who've suffered hardships in the past want the people of the future to suffer as hard as they did, because it's "not fair" that people in the future don't suffer as much as they did. it's like wishing for future generations to suffer cancer because your mother died of cancer, to "build character". people having to work two to three jobs at 40 to 60 hours a week, BOTH PARENTS, just to make ends meet, while CEO's go shitting on golden toilets and enjoying vampire facials is not building character. it's just plain cruelty.

"but what about those lazy people who will abuse the system of free money and buy drugs and beer and" STOP IT. THAT'S PROPAGANDA BY THE VERY RICH PEOPLE WHO WANT YOU TO BELIEVE THOSE LIES SO THEY CAN CONTINUE TO ABUSE THE SYSTEM WHILE YOU SQUABBLE OVER SCRAPS.

the real welfare queens are the mega rich who evade taxes and abuse the poor while getting those poor to doubt the inherent goodness of their neighbors, fearing each other instead of loving each other.



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    #27054600 - 11/23/20 08:30 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't mean "shaming" but why would anybody want to be a janitor their whole lives?



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I don't mean "shaming" but why would anybody want to be a janitor their whole lives?



Maybe because they don't want to be a part of a clique of people that denigrate and fuck with people who just want a simple life and enough money to live it without having the pressure of having stocks, IRA's, huge bank accounts, new cars and so on. Maybe having 50-100 grand of student loans doesn't really appeal to them? Maybe they did something bad and now that is the only job they can barely get FOR ONE FUCKING MISTAKE? You need more?


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    #27054612 - 11/23/20 08:36 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

My aunt's a janitor at a middle school, she's making $75k+ a year, weekends off and reduced schedule over the summer, kickass benefits and a pension where she'll be taking home $50k+ a year when she retires


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind] * 1
    #27054616 - 11/23/20 08:39 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I feel like the only people working in retail and restaurants should be high schoolers or college students. $8/hr jobs are not something you do forever. That's not what I was taught anyway. It's just that nowadays the job market sucks so hard that adults with better skills or higher intelligence are having to take on these "lower" jobs.



I blame the parents. I don't know who or what you think you are, but we are all human, mostly anyway. You seem to have a holier than thou attitude. If it's something you like and are good at it, rock on, away from me, far away. This kind of attitude and way of thinking and being really fucks with my head. This kind of thinking is why greed/materialism is accepted as something good and to be striven for.


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    #27054619 - 11/23/20 08:41 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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My aunt's a janitor at a middle school, she's making $75k+ a year, weekends off and reduced schedule over the summer, kickass benefits and a pension where she'll be taking home $50k+ a year when she retires



That poster was obviously raised in a closed and certain environment by people who think a certain way. They never would have posted that comment if they were a thinking feeling human.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #27054636 - 11/23/20 08:59 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

If only High schoolers worked in grocery stores, they wold only be open from 4pm to 10pm except in summer. DERP.


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    #27054639 - 11/23/20 09:02 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Joe just stopped back by. He cleaned my guns and returned them. It was a misunderstanding on my part.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: feevers]
    #27054665 - 11/23/20 09:41 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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My aunt's a janitor at a middle school, she's making $75k+ a year, weekends off and reduced schedule over the summer, kickass benefits and a pension where she'll be taking home $50k+ a year when she retires



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    #27054677 - 11/23/20 10:02 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I really think you missed all of my points




what points? that democrats are evil, just like republicans? that's like comparing your older brother stealing some of your halloween candy to hitler at this point. there's corruption in both sides, yes, but the difference is laughably one-sided, because unlike the right, the left will happily turn on any politicians who show signs of turning rogue. what happens when a politician on the right decides to call for the murder of a rival on the left?

the right backs them up.

that shit is NOT OK. EVER.

if obama had tried something like that on a state governor, the left would have been calling for his impeachment. unless of course, said governor was like... a second actual hilter causing thousands of US citizen deaths or something. but a governor calling for mask mandates trying to protect lives? heck no! the left would have rightly considered him unfit to continue as president due to mental health issues.

as for open borders, it would immediately lead to people focusing on one of america's biggest problems: our absolute godsforsaken PIECE OF SHIT that is our immigration system. it takes DECADES to immigrate legally for many people, costing thousands of dollars. i know this firsthand, because my own mother immigrated legally from mexico, as did her brother. it took her brother over 15 years, 2 rejections, and at least 3500$ just to attain legal citizenship. he started trying when he was 15. he had the advantage of knowing english, having a job, and my mother being a legal immigrant and knowing the process. that's how fucked up the system is. oh, and he lived in TJ, so he was at the border and close by.

most people who want to legally immigrate do not have any of those advantages. regardless, it should not take that fucking long just to process a single application. it's one thing to make sure people are able to take care of themselves when they move here (seeing if they have a job lined up, for instance, or enough cash assets/education). it's another thing entirely to have the application take so long that people expire of old age/are past their prime working years by the time the application is actually processed.

and why should we want these immigrants? because, they're effing amazing. statistically, they're less likely to commit crimes, more productive, and they bring fresh healthy new genes to our gene pool. (read: more genetic diversity = healthier babies overall, less disease.) they come here with a purpose, with dreams. they don't want to eff that up by getting into trouble with the law. they want to open up a new business, or pursue the american dream, or they happen to be a doctor or other advanced science degree from another country. (not all immigrants are your stereotypical poor mexican with no degree, you know...)

we'd be fools to reject an infusion of a younger, healthier population from other countries when our own population is only 0.59% and falling every year. at this rate we'll wind up like japan, with an aging workforce and falling population and not enough people to take care of it. all because of our own racism.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: psi]
    #27054707 - 11/23/20 10:32 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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My aunt's a janitor at a middle school, she's making $75k+ a year, weekends off and reduced schedule over the summer, kickass benefits and a pension where she'll be taking home $50k+ a year when she retires



That sounds like a lot, I wonder how much the teachers make?




My uncle is a head custodian, makes 80k without the insane overtime he puts in.Pension is based on 3 highest earning years which he confided to me all broke 6 figures.  He is close to retirement, just need to get past covid (oh he works in one of the wealthiest towns in the nation, and has been there so long he is grandfathered into all sorts of beneficial things for him.)


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Ice9]
    #27054842 - 11/24/20 01:41 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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My aunt's a janitor at a middle school, she's making $75k+ a year, weekends off and reduced schedule over the summer, kickass benefits and a pension where she'll be taking home $50k+ a year when she retires



That sounds like a lot, I wonder how much the teachers make?




My uncle is a head custodian, makes 80k without the insane overtime he puts in.Pension is based on 3 highest earning years which he confided to me all broke 6 figures.  He is close to retirement, just need to get past covid (oh he works in one of the wealthiest towns in the nation, and has been there so long he is grandfathered into all sorts of beneficial things for him.)



Dude the reason your aunt gets paid so much is because her husband is the head janitor. She would be making about $15 an hour if her husband wasn't the head janitor.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27054908 - 11/24/20 04:20 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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My aunt's a janitor at a middle school, she's making $75k+ a year, weekends off and reduced schedule over the summer, kickass benefits and a pension where she'll be taking home $50k+ a year when she retires



That sounds like a lot, I wonder how much the teachers make?




My uncle is a head custodian, makes 80k without the insane overtime he puts in.Pension is based on 3 highest earning years which he confided to me all broke 6 figures.  He is close to retirement, just need to get past covid (oh he works in one of the wealthiest towns in the nation, and has been there so long he is grandfathered into all sorts of beneficial things for him.)



Dude the reason your aunt gets paid so much is because her husband is the head janitor. She would be making about $15 an hour if her husband wasn't the head janitor.




No, Ice9 is not my brother.

Psi the custodians actually make more than the teachers in my district typically, they start off around 50k and get 1-2% cost of living increase yearly and then 4-5% raise for performance reviews. Overtime is mandatory double time. The school rents out the gym to pickup sports leagues at night and she makes $75/hr just to be in the building while they're there and sweep afterwards, she probably takes home closer to 90k since 75 is just the base pay.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Psion]
    #27054973 - 11/24/20 06:24 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I really think you missed all of my points




what points? that democrats are evil, just like republicans? that's like comparing your older brother stealing some of your halloween candy to hitler at this point. there's corruption in both sides, yes, but the difference is laughably one-sided, because unlike the right, the left will happily turn on any politicians who show signs of turning rogue. what happens when a politician on the right decides to call for the murder of a rival on the left?

the right backs them up.

that shit is NOT OK. EVER.

if obama had tried something like that on a state governor, the left would have been calling for his impeachment. unless of course, said governor was like... a second actual hilter causing thousands of US citizen deaths or something. but a governor calling for mask mandates trying to protect lives? heck no! the left would have rightly considered him unfit to continue as president due to mental health issues.

as for open borders, it would immediately lead to people focusing on one of america's biggest problems: our absolute godsforsaken PIECE OF SHIT that is our immigration system. it takes DECADES to immigrate legally for many people, costing thousands of dollars. i know this firsthand, because my own mother immigrated legally from mexico, as did her brother. it took her brother over 15 years, 2 rejections, and at least 3500$ just to attain legal citizenship. he started trying when he was 15. he had the advantage of knowing english, having a job, and my mother being a legal immigrant and knowing the process. that's how fucked up the system is. oh, and he lived in TJ, so he was at the border and close by.

most people who want to legally immigrate do not have any of those advantages. regardless, it should not take that fucking long just to process a single application. it's one thing to make sure people are able to take care of themselves when they move here (seeing if they have a job lined up, for instance, or enough cash assets/education). it's another thing entirely to have the application take so long that people expire of old age/are past their prime working years by the time the application is actually processed.

and why should we want these immigrants? because, they're effing amazing. statistically, they're less likely to commit crimes, more productive, and they bring fresh healthy new genes to our gene pool. (read: more genetic diversity = healthier babies overall, less disease.) they come here with a purpose, with dreams. they don't want to eff that up by getting into trouble with the law. they want to open up a new business, or pursue the american dream, or they happen to be a doctor or other advanced science degree from another country. (not all immigrants are your stereotypical poor mexican with no degree, you know...)

we'd be fools to reject an infusion of a younger, healthier population from other countries when our own population is only 0.59% and falling every year. at this rate we'll wind up like japan, with an aging workforce and falling population and not enough people to take care of it. all because of our own racism.




100% agree that the immigration system needs to be fixed. I work with people who have been waiting on green cards for decades with no end in sight.

The point I was making is that the establishment will not make it happen because they love the cheap labor.

Tell me why have we had 3 cycles in the 2000s (bush, obama and trump) where the president at the time's party held control of both house and senate but failed to pass meaningful immigration legislation?


Pull your head out your ass, you have been brainwashed to scapegoat while they laugh all the way to the bank.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
    #27054987 - 11/24/20 06:50 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Damn... I think I'll shall be a janitor once I hit a certain age, but fuck elementary, middle, and highschool. I'm cleaning out colleges.

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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Cracked Egg]
    #27055117 - 11/24/20 08:57 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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    #27056261 - 11/24/20 09:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I've worked several retail jobs. I know what I'm talking about. And I'm not going to use the reply function right now.


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    #27056294 - 11/24/20 09:28 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Do you remember gas being a buck? Cigs 50 cents a pack? any coin any drink nights at bars? 10-20 dollar concerts? All that being affordable while working in a factory, retail, fast food, etc...job with a HS diploma or GED, or even not one of those? Then the corps/capitalists found a way to take that small bit of paradise from the common man by overseas production/manufacturing jobs so they wouldn't have to pay a decent wage and share the millions and billions in profits with the very core of the business that made them wealthy. GREEDY FUCKING FUCKS! Gee, I wonder why the motor city and flint all the auto producing cit9ies went to shit, hmmmm, I can't for the life of me figure this shit out, hmmmmmm....

If everyone has a college degree and wants high paying jobs then who will do the menial tasks/jobs? AI/robots aren't advanced enough yet. What are you like barely 20yo or so? Just how many of these "several retail jobs" have you had? I'm sure you're a seasoned vet in the hard labor workforce huh? Got callouses on your hands folding sweaters did you? Catch a cold handling money? Long grueling hours in the hot sun with backbreaking lifting of heavy stuff get to you did it?:rolleyes: Not everyone wants a fucking caddy, volvo or mercedes.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #27056325 - 11/24/20 09:51 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I don’t keep up with politics at all, there all a load of lying thief’s and full of false promises. I’m brown by the way. Blue collar and American citizen, I can’t believe how many minorities voted for joe. From what I’ve heard he’s gonna fuck up hard working Americans jobs to favor lazy bums and give em more benefits, who the hell will pay for those Benefits if it ain’t blue collar workers, I ain’t against tree hungers either but let’s get real people. If he shuts down refineries how are we gonna have oil gas electricity and plastics. Yall gonna import that shit from China aswell?  I guess it doesn’t mater to a lot of people at least it won’t for a while.. till he fucks up our economy..He’s been in office for decades, I thought trump was a laughing stock but this guy is something else. WTF is this world coming down to.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
    #27056330 - 11/24/20 09:52 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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100% agree that the immigration system needs to be fixed. I work with people who have been waiting on green cards for decades with no end in sight.

The point I was making is that the establishment will not make it happen because they love the cheap labor.

Tell me why have we had 3 cycles in the 2000s (bush, obama and trump) where the president at the time's party held control of both house and senate but failed to pass meaningful immigration legislation?


Pull your head out your ass, you have been brainwashed to scapegoat while they laugh all the way to the bank.




well, to put it bluntly... because two of those cycles the control was in the hands of a party that is blatantly racist, and in the last cycle, during the only two years there was a chance of it, obama was kind of juggling with multiple disasters caused by nature, the last administration, and the world at large. not that i'm excusing him, mind you, but he did have a busy plate already - it's hard to cram even more legislation down the throats of the senate and house when they're already known for their dithering and bickering at every issue, even at the best of times. as it is, he at least used executive actions to pass SOME measures of reforms, even if trump decided to go pure Dr. Evil and destroy whatever he could with reversals and encouraging outright bigotry in the general populace.

again, you're comparing molehills to Olympus Mons here in the two parties. don't think democrats aren't disappointed in their own party for not doing enough for immigration legislation - but unlike republicans, when our politicians disappoint us, we don't go "oh well, our representative has gone FULL ON EVIL, let's continue to vote for them", we instead will happily raise hell over it. that fact, and a combination of voter suppression/gerrymandering/general apathy is the ONLY reason the GOP is even still able to stay relevant enough to win elections anymore.

there's a reason why these last couple presidential elections were decided by only several thousand voters, yet the actual difference in votes were several million apart. the electoral college is a disgusting relic of the past that needs to be discarded - the constitution may have been a great idea for its time, but other countries have come up with MUCH better constitution "2.0s" if you will from our original.

it's time for us to look to what they learned from us, and make a constitution "3.0" and take the lead once more, or become a relic in truth.


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    #27056363 - 11/24/20 10:13 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I feel like the only people working in retail and restaurants should be high schoolers or college students.



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    #27056367 - 11/24/20 10:15 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I don't care about material things anymore. Nobody should be driving stupid luxury vehicles. Nobody should be living in mansions either. Back before the recession and housing market crash of 2008 I was set to become a designer and make six figures. My dreams got shattered in 2008. I have had to find myself again and again and again. there are only so many fucking things on the planet that I'm interested in enough to take on a job in that field which I am qualified for. I would rather commit suicide than go back to working in retail or restaurants again. maybe if I were getting 40 or 50 thousand a year to be a janitor maybe I would do it for a little bit but not for life. my dream is now to get my biochemistry degree and go on to graduate school and do my thesis on something related to psychedelics and Neuroscience. my new dream is to dedicate my life to psychedelic drug research so that it can one day be legalized. but because of the fucking cost-of-living and because of having to jump from job to job it is taking me way longer than I anticipated. I just hate to see a good brain go to waste. Someone who is smart and intelligent enough to understand science should be getting degrees in science not working retail jobs. I'm actually really better about society.

I see what you mean. In the 90s it was not looked down upon to have an $8 an hour retail or restaurant job. Gas was $1.99 when I first got my license. my cell phone bill was $30 a month in 2005 but that was all anybody needed back then. Nobody needed unlimited minutes and unlimited data. One of the problems now is that people have too many desires. people want a faster phone than what they have already or a faster car than what they have already or a bigger house than what they have already. people are not satisfied with the way things are and I think it is absolutely ridiculous.

to be honest people should be making their own food at home instead of going out to restaurants. The food at restaurants is like quadruple the price that you would pay for it in the grocery stores and making a home cooked meal at home is a lot more healthier than eating at restaurants.


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    #27056369 - 11/24/20 10:16 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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    #27056371 - 11/24/20 10:18 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Those jobs don't require any real skill or real education. having a good memory and being able to run around like a chicken with your head cut off is not a skill. I'm not saying that is a bad thing it is what it is. But I'm a firm believer in The brave New world book. Everyone has a place in society and everyone should be happy doing what they do. most people who work retail don't fucking like the job at all and the same goes with people who work in restaurants. I mean on the surface they all say that they enjoy their jobs and they like going to work but deep down that is not how they really feel. the only people that I could really really see that could really enjoy a retail job or people who are mentally challenged.


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    #27056373 - 11/24/20 10:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Don't try to understand anything I say. I change my mind frequently and I don't keep up with politics and I'm just bitter about the world and about the job market.


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    #27056378 - 11/24/20 10:27 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Enjoy your biochem degree that requires the lack of skill like good memory :shrug:


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    #27056381 - 11/24/20 10:31 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I don’t keep up with politics at all, there all a load of lying thief’s and full of false promises. I’m brown by the way. Blue collar and American citizen, I can’t believe how many minorities voted for joe. From what I’ve heard he’s gonna fuck up hard working Americans jobs to favor lazy bums and give em more benefits, who the hell will pay for those Benefits if it ain’t blue collar workers, I ain’t against tree hungers either but let’s get real people. If he shuts down refineries how are we gonna have oil gas electricity and plastics. Yall gonna import that shit from China aswell?  I guess it doesn’t mater to a lot of people at least it won’t for a while.. till he fucks up our economy..He’s been in office for decades, I thought trump was a laughing stock but this guy is something else. WTF is this world coming down to.




erm... the rich will pay for it, naturally. like they should have been in the first place, because they're evading taxes through loopholes. many rich pay less % in taxes than those poorer in them. they're the real welfare queens, in truth, making millions or billions while the poor make scraps and are forced to survive and use government welfare programs just to survive (read: taxpayer dollars), because the rich aren't paying them living wages. in other words, the government is subsidizing the rich.

any company who can't pay all their workers a living wage... is not a company that should be kept afloat in a free market, no? it should simply be left to go out of business, as it's not a sustainable business model. so why are we letting wal-mart, mcdonalds, starbucks, and all these other megacompanys pay workers absolute SHIT for wages, forcing them to rely on food stamps and other government programs just to survive, just so they can make more profit? we, as taxpayers, are footing that bill. for walmart.

the costs will be covered by taxing the rich, essentially those who make $400,000 a year or more. unless you make this much, you're not going to be seeing any increased taxes. if you do...you're probably not going to be caring much anyways, or if you do...maybe you need to get your priorities straight. like maybe stop buying so many mansions, i dunno. isn't one enough? do you really need 10? <_<;

the lazy bum stereotype is a lie perpetuated by the GOP - almost all food stamp recipients are most assuredly not lazy bums. for one thing, you need to be working to receive them for most people. (or be disabled or some other good reason, and believe me...they check.) for another, in case you didn't realize... those people are also taxpayers. they kind of, you know... paid into the food stamps system too. so they kind of, you know, are entitled to it. it's sort of, you know, there for any american citizen who needs it. also, there's been studies on the amount of fraud, such as people selling their food stamps money for drugs or the like, and they found that the amount of fraud use was below 1%. keep in mind this is any kind of fraud - much of this is much more innocent. for instance, a store ringing up a nonfood item as food to help out a customer in need, such as shampoo. (because seriously, fuck the government and it's stupidity. shampoo is an essential item. hygiene is important.) or someone selling their food stamps to a friend for cash in order to get much needed money for a car repair, so they can continue to get to work. selling food stamps for drugs is something that CAN happen, but it's one of those mythical unicorns that practically never happens. the other two scenarios though? much more common, because people who use food stamps almost never have available cash for essential items like car repairs and shampoo. (and seriously, drugs are a luxury when you're this poor.)

as for oil, gas, electricty, and plastics? that's easy. if we're shutting down refineries, we're doing so because we're weaning off the need for oil and gas. that said, refineries are likely not going to be shut down, because they're also used for plastic making, and plastics are never going to go away - what we need is better recycling methods. thankfully, there is research in this. some scientists have found a way to modify a refinery to essentially melt down old plastics and crack em in a refinery like oil, turning them into virgin plastics again. they think they can modify old refineries and use them as recycling plants this way, which is promising, as it may be the holy grail for plastics - a fully closed loop of recycling instead just the "sorta like new recycling" we currently have.

for electricity, there's solar, wind, water, and hopefully fusion soon. new advances in battery technology, along with other options like gravity-based energy storage (think of things like pumping water into an elevated reservoir, or hauling minecarts filled with rocks up a mountain then releasing them down a specialized railway to regain the energy used to haul them up) will allow us to store these renewable energy sources and wean us off fossil fuels entirely. there's no reason for fossil fuels at all except sheer laziness and refusal to change. innovation doesn't ruin an economy - it causes new jobs, new growth, and breathes new life into it. what happened when we invented cars, computers, the internet? did the economy tank? please. sure, maybe the market for horses did. maybe the market for paperback books. but HOLY SHIT did the economy explode with each of these inventions. this wasn't some minor boost. it was exponential for each of these. cars dramatically increased the distance people could travel to work and how far goods could get to market. the computer...well, we all know what the computer did, as did the internet.

there is absolutely nothing to fear from a Green New Deal, except your own refusal to adapt to changing times. but if 2020 has taught us anything, its that change is like the wind - it will come gently, or it will come like a storm, but it will come regardless of your wishes. you can bend and flow with the changes, or resist and be toppled over. the choice is yours to make, but the refusal to make a choice is the same as choosing to resist.

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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: jewunit]
    #27056385 - 11/24/20 10:35 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Enjoy your biochem degree that requires the lack of skill like good memory :shrug:



dude I'm extremely intuitive and I love to figure shit out. I got an A in both college algebra and trigonometry and my trig professor even told me that based on the types of questions I asked in class he can tell that I'm PhD material. He says I ask more analytical questions than I do just the basic question and answer type of questions.

I'm teaching myself precalculus (which is really just college algebra and trig put together) and calculus 1 and 2 before I actually take the classes so that I know what the professor is talking about. I'm also going to read the chemistry textbook before I actually take the class. This is the one fucking thing on the planet that I'm passionate enough about to actually study math on my own. Math is not even my favorite subject I actually don't even like math but I like it better than I did when I was a kid. I owe that all to having a really really good professor for trigonometry. He made me enjoy doing math and taking trigonometry helped me to get the connection with algebra. I do have a great memory and my professor says that if we have not memorized the sin/cos/ of 30 45 and 60 and each of those increments by the time we get to calculus 2 then we can forget about getting a good grade in that class. I'm glad I took trigonometry because it will help me understand calculus a lot better.


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    #27056387 - 11/24/20 10:40 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Never said you weren't smart but I'm glad you felt the need to type that out to prove you are. Just reminding you that your great memory is a skilless talent.


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    #27056388 - 11/24/20 10:45 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Never said you weren't smart but I'm glad you felt the need to type that out to prove you are. Just reminding you that your great memory is a skilless talent.



Not when you can memorize formulas and theorems and sines and cosines and tangents. Most people don't even know how to figure out what x is when I give them a problem like 2x + 8 = 16 even with easy even numbers.

being able to recall the kind of salad dressing and the kind of drinks that your customers want is not a valuable memory skillset. according to psychology 101, everybody should be able to recall at least seven items in their short-term memory. Most people short term memory can hold about 7 things that a Time. whether this is a list of seven items you need from the grocery store or seven different drinks that customers want, seven is the number that psychologists agreed upon which everyone should be able to recall with a normal working memory.


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    #27056395 - 11/24/20 10:53 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

You memorized the two steps it takes to solve for x, and maybe my algebra's a bit off but I think 2 is less than 7. Excellent example.


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    #27056414 - 11/24/20 11:26 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I’m dont toatally agree with you bro, I live in south texas , so south that I can throw a rock and hit a Mexican in the fore head that’s on the other side of the rio.. my wife’s illegal we have 3 kids and I haven’t been able to find a peace of mind legally with her here. What I do know is that around half the people who live near me make well over 150k per household yet the majority isn’t married. This is to fuck over the system and while lacking that amount ask for benefits such as Medicare food stamps wic, you name it that’s the working class , with help they do great. Then there is the non working class such as my wives siblings who work, pay a small amount of taxes and receive help year round, I swear these people who are supposed poor are better off than me, i make around 120k on a decent year, but I have to live away from home that whole year and when you take into account rent and outside expenses it really ain’t fair. I’ve thought about fucking the system too but my wife won’t allow it as she has false illusions of some day becoming a citizen, she will never. At first I thought if I could shell out enough dough they’d hand her a green card, it ain’t like that. I’ve even looked into houses in mex but she just gets butthurt saying I’m already deporting her , it ain’t like that I’m just looking into my future


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: jewunit]
    #27056429 - 11/24/20 11:39 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I was saying how other people couldn't figure it out. It was not about me. I can memorize a lot more than two steps to find x.

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    #27056430 - 11/24/20 11:41 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Never said you weren't smart but I'm glad you felt the need to type that out to prove you are. Just reminding you that your great memory is a skilless talent.



Not when you can memorize formulas and theorems and sines and cosines and tangents. Most people don't even know how to figure out what x is when I give them a problem like 2x + 8 = 16 even with easy even numbers.

being able to recall the kind of salad dressing and the kind of drinks that your customers want is not a valuable memory skillset. according to psychology 101, everybody should be able to recall at least seven items in their short-term memory. Most people short term memory can hold about 7 things that a Time. whether this is a list of seven items you need from the grocery store or seven different drinks that customers want, seven is the number that psychologists agreed upon which everyone should be able to recall with a normal working memory.




excuse me, but this is a slap in the face, AGAIN, to customer service. do you realize how many customers a typical server sees in a day? it numbers in dozens to the hundreds for most. honestly, it feels like the thousands sometimes. you make it sound like recalling what kind of drinks your customers want is easy - but it's not a simple matter of memorizing a few kinds of drinks. it's also memorizing which customers want what drinks, which customers should NOT have which drinks, which topics should NOT be brought up with which customer because it's a touchy subject, what each customers name is, their kids names or what their interests are... customer service involves a ridiculous amount of both memory recall and problem solving, guessing for "unknown variables" as you might call it, trying to make someone smile based on perhaps, what they're wearing, buying, or acting, and hoping you say something that puts a grin on their face instead of something that offends.

social skills are very much a valuable asset. and i do mean that in a literal financial sense.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Psion]
    #27056438 - 11/24/20 11:44 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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    #27056445 - 11/24/20 11:56 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I’m dont toatally agree with you bro, I live in south texas , so south that I can throw a rock and hit a Mexican in the fore head that’s on the other side of the rio.. my wife’s illegal we have 3 kids and I haven’t been able to find a peace of mind legally with her here. What I do know is that around half the people who live near me make well over 150k per household yet the majority isn’t married. This is to fuck over the system and while lacking that amount ask for benefits such as Medicare food stamps wic, you name it that’s the working class , with help they do great. Then there is the non working class such as my wives siblings who work, pay a small amount of taxes and receive help year round, I swear these people who are supposed poor are better off than me, i make around 120k on a decent year, but I have to live away from home that whole year and when you take into account rent and outside expenses it really ain’t fair. I’ve thought about fucking the system too but my wife won’t allow it as she has false illusions of some day becoming a citizen, she will never. At first I thought if I could shell out enough dough they’d hand her a green card, it ain’t like that. I’ve even looked into houses in mex but she just gets butthurt saying I’m already deporting her , it ain’t like that I’m just looking into my future




please. don't even with this "rich poor" business. that's also a myth. sometimes those "supposed rich poor" are simply well off people who get laid off, hit hard times (remember covid? we're in a pandemic? unemployment rate spiked to higher than the great depression? yeah, that hit rich people too.) and had to apply for food stamps because suddenly their income shot down to 0, they are unemployed, and they need to use welfare systems that are there because... theyre safety nets. there in place for ANYONE who needs them.

and seriously, you're fucking whining about people who make over 150k per household using food stamps. people who pay 150k a year. using food stamps. in case you forgot, they pay more than they even use in food stamps in taxes. why are you bitching about this? they're not only paying for their own food stamp use, but others as well.

the "rich poor" gaming the system aren't gaming the system - they're paying for the system and then some. the actual poor using the system aren't living the fine life dining on lobster and steak - they're living a miserable life in tiny apartments shared with roommates eating ramen (when they manage to eat anything at all), with no heating, often not bathing in winter because they can't afford soap and shampoo (i know this as a cashier, because i'm the one that rings up their groceries. i'm the one who has to smell them.), enduring hardship after hardship and somehow still surviving.

and no, they're not buying cheap booze and gaming the system. again, i'm the one ringing up their groceries, so i know this for a fact. just lots of cheap processed food with lots of calories. chips, soda, ramen, anything that has high amounts of calories for low amounts of $. because it's the only way to survive for a month with the pitiful amounts of money given by food stamps. oh, they'll try to eat as healthy as they can - but survival has to come before 10$ chicken salads that only last you a day, when a bag of off brand tortilla chips costs you a buck for 2000 calories.


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    #27056450 - 11/25/20 12:06 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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It was not about me



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dude I'm extremely intuitive and I love to figure shit out. I got an A in both college algebra and trigonometry and my trig professor even told me that based on the types of questions I asked in class he can tell that I'm PhD material. He says I ask more analytical questions than I do just the basic question and answer type of questions.



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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: cannabinated]
    #27056575 - 11/25/20 04:50 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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100% agree that the immigration system needs to be fixed. I work with people who have been waiting on green cards for decades with no end in sight.

The point I was making is that the establishment will not make it happen because they love the cheap labor.

Tell me why have we had 3 cycles in the 2000s (bush, obama and trump) where the president at the time's party held control of both house and senate but failed to pass meaningful immigration legislation?


Pull your head out your ass, you have been brainwashed to scapegoat while they laugh all the way to the bank.




well, to put it bluntly... because two of those cycles the control was in the hands of a party that is blatantly racist, and in the last cycle, during the only two years there was a chance of it, obama was kind of juggling with multiple disasters caused by nature, the last administration, and the world at large. not that i'm excusing him, mind you, but he did have a busy plate already - it's hard to cram even more legislation down the throats of the senate and house when they're already known for their dithering and bickering at every issue, even at the best of times. as it is, he at least used executive actions to pass SOME measures of reforms, even if trump decided to go pure Dr. Evil and destroy whatever he could with reversals and encouraging outright bigotry in the general populace.

again, you're comparing molehills to Olympus Mons here in the two parties. don't think democrats aren't disappointed in their own party for not doing enough for immigration legislation - but unlike republicans, when our politicians disappoint us, we don't go "oh well, our representative has gone FULL ON EVIL, let's continue to vote for them", we instead will happily raise hell over it. that fact, and a combination of voter suppression/gerrymandering/general apathy is the ONLY reason the GOP is even still able to stay relevant enough to win elections anymore.

there's a reason why these last couple presidential elections were decided by only several thousand voters, yet the actual difference in votes were several million apart. the electoral college is a disgusting relic of the past that needs to be discarded - the constitution may have been a great idea for its time, but other countries have come up with MUCH better constitution "2.0s" if you will from our original.

it's time for us to look to what they learned from us, and make a constitution "3.0" and take the lead once more, or become a relic in truth.




Yes it is because one side is evil and obama had a full plate that was also the the evil party's fault.

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    #27057412 - 11/25/20 04:36 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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the electoral college is a disgusting relic of the past that needs to be discarded -




The electoral college keeps us from being controlled by two states.  It allows everyone a voice.

Allowing everyone a voice is disgusting?


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    #27057465 - 11/25/20 05:13 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Except people who vote against the majority in their state, their vote counts as a vote for the person they voted against. Except in the two states that don't do that.


Deciding based on the popular vote would be allowing everyone an equal voice, regardless of where in the country they're located.


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    #27057482 - 11/25/20 05:24 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Except people who vote against the majority in their state, their vote counts as a vote for the person they voted against. Except in the two states that don't do that.


Deciding based on the popular vote would be allowing everyone an equal voice, regardless of where in the country they're located.



No.  It would not.  It would allow a majority of people to dictate to the rest of the country and it would destroy the voice of others.  At that point even having an election would be a joke if it was always decided by the biggest cities.  America is not a democracy, it is a republic.


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    #27057509 - 11/25/20 05:37 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

A republic is a type of democracy. Also, besides that, your point is moot.


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    #27057510 - 11/25/20 05:38 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, it would give each person an equal voice. Whether those people chose to live in more or less populated states would be irrelevant to their voting power.


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Precisely what happens at the state level in 48 of 50 states.


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A republic is a type of democracy. Also, besides that, your point is moot.




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    #27057593 - 11/25/20 06:26 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Well the electoral welfare we've been granting to pobuckers and sociopaths doesn't seem to be working out. We need to turn up the dial on those "aspects of democracy".

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    #27057641 - 11/25/20 07:01 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Alot of talk about that 15$ an hour, my wife makes 11.75/hr, I've got epilepsy and don't work, we make 38k a year together. Every week only way we pay for food is my father sends us 100bucks/week. Only way I pay my house payment is with income tax, if we didn't do that we couldn't make it month to month. tomorrow is thanksgiving I have 7.25 cents(in credit) and don't get paid for 7 days...
I can't help to think with an extra 3.25/hr we could make it easy month to month.

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    #27057704 - 11/25/20 07:36 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Well the electoral welfare we've been granting to pobuckers and sociopaths doesn't seem to be working out. We need to turn up the dial on those "aspects of democracy".

Also, A schOONER haS AsPECtS Of a saILBOaT, IT is NoT a sAIl BOAt ITsELf.





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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: lowbrow]
    #27057840 - 11/25/20 09:34 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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the electoral college is a disgusting relic of the past that needs to be discarded -




The electoral college keeps us from being controlled by two states.  It allows everyone a voice.

Allowing everyone a voice is disgusting?




we have the senate to allow every state an equal voice, regardless of population. the problem with the electoral collage is that it does not allow every citizen an equal voice in voting - a voter in alaska is worth almost 200 times more than a voter in california, as far as influence goes. it's like the 3/5s law all over again but worse - and compounded more by the fact that gerrymandering and voter suppression by the GOP is done deliberately to suppress minority voters, who overwhelmingly vote democrat. (hmm, i wonder why? it couldn't possibly be because the GOP party as a whole is a bunch of racist assholes who enact policies that treat minorities like shit? nah, that couldn't be it, could it!??! /sarcasm)

it's not ok when presidential elections are millions of votes apart in popular votes yet decided by only tens of thousands of votes in electoral vote margins. that's an indication of a corrupt system and suppressed voices, not "everyone a voice". in what world is "millions of people told their votes mean nothing" "everyone a voice"?


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Psion] * 1
    #27057903 - 11/25/20 10:33 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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we have the senate to allow every state an equal voice, regardless of population.


and we also have the electoral college for that.

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the problem with the electoral collage is that it does not allow every citizen an equal voice in voting -


yes it does.

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a voter in alaska is worth almost 200 times more than a voter in california,


that is false

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as far as influence goes. it's like the 3/5s law all over again but worse - and compounded more by the fact that gerrymandering and voter suppression by the GOP is done deliberately to suppress minority voters,


Now you’ve gone into conspiracy theory territory.

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who overwhelmingly vote democrat.


so? Their vote is as much a part of the electoral college as anyone else’s.

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(hmm, i wonder why?


I don’t know, why?

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it couldn't possibly be because the GOP party as a whole is a bunch of racist assholes who enact policies that treat minorities like shit? nah, that couldn't be it, could it!??! /sarcasm)


no.

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it's not ok when presidential elections are millions of votes apart in popular votes yet decided by only tens of thousands of votes in electoral vote margins.


that’s what makes it fair.

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that's an indication of a corrupt system and suppressed voices,


that’s more of an indication that you think your voice is better than everybody else’s.

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not "everyone a voice". in what world is "millions of people told their votes mean nothing" "everyone a voice"?


Plenty of them, but not the USA.  You seem to be okay with suppression as long as it’s people you don’t agree with.  That’s why they have the electoral college, so two states don’t do the deciding for the rest.  This way all states get a voice in the decision.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: lowbrow] * 2
    #27057920 - 11/25/20 10:49 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

except all states do get a voice in the decision. equal voices. you don't think it's equal? well maybe your state shouldn't suck so bad that you can't attract a population worth shit. it's not california's fault that georgia can't get it's act together. it's not new york's fault that florida can't clean up it's act. you make your state attractive and people move there. you enact policies that uplift people and you naturally gain a higher population, which means more voters. it's simple logistics.

there's no need for an "electoral collage". we already have a entire branch of power dedicated to this, we do not need a second (the president) chosen this way as well. it's unnecessarily complicated. one voter, one vote. it's even more illogical in these times when people drive dozens of miles to work, some people FLY hundreds of miles to work, and many people remote work across the country. state boundaries are increasingly irreverent in our interconnected world. one voter, one vote.

there is nothing more fair than this. each person should have an equal voice. america is not made up of states. it's made up of people. the heart of any country is not it's land, but the citizens that reside upon it.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Psion] * 1
    #27057999 - 11/26/20 12:20 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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except all states do get a voice in the decision. equal voices. you don't think it's equal?




No. That’s what you said.

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well maybe your state shouldn't suck so bad that you can't attract a population worth shit.


why are you trying to get personal?

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it's not california's fault that georgia can't get it's act together.it's not new york's fault that florida can't clean up it's act. you make your state attractive and people move there. you enact policies that uplift people and you naturally gain a higher population, which means more voters. it's simple logistics.


this has nothing to do with the conversation.

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there's no need for an "electoral collage".


yes there is.  Are you not reading what I wrote?


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we already have a entire branch of power dedicated to this,


yes. It’s called the electoral college.

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we do not need a second (the president) chosen this way as well.


yes, we do.

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it's unnecessarily complicated. one voter, one vote. it's even more illogical in these times when people drive dozens of miles to work, some people FLY hundreds of miles to work, and many people remote work across the country. state boundaries are increasingly irreverent in our interconnected world. one voter, one vote.


This has nothing to do with anything related to the electoral college.

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there is nothing more fair than this.


You have no clue what you’re talking about.

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each person should have an equal voice.


and they do. It’s called the electoral college.

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america is not made up of states.


yes, it is.  Fifty of them.

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it's made up of people.


That live in states.

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the heart of any country is not it's land, but the citizens that reside upon it.




Emotional diatribes tend to have no logic behind them.  This one is no exception.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your errwits away but he's taking your 46 way. [Re: Psion]
    #27058006 - 11/26/20 12:30 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Way listen up .


Nothing matters anyways what those goof heads in office are doing.


Anyone of you political flowers is going to get burnt down right now, because politics holds no bearing on the people.


Only the people will decide who lives, and who dies. That is what is at stake here.



I am just worried that the so called "vaccine" is going to contain some sort of DNA stringer etc that basically makes you the governments bitch.


Like, once you get the virus inoculation you are under their control ...


And the threat would be fear of life.


Thoughts? Ideas?


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Re: Biden isn't taking your errwits away but he's taking your 46 way. [Re: Fiery]
    #27058011 - 11/26/20 12:38 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Way listen up .


Nothing matters anyways what those goof heads in office are doing.


Anyone of you political flowers is going to get burnt down right now, because politics holds no bearing on the people.


Only the people will decide who lives, and who dies. That is what is at stake here.



I am just worried that the so called "vaccine" is going to contain some sort of DNA stringer etc that basically makes you the governments bitch.


Like, once you get the virus inoculation you are under their control ...


And the threat would be fear of life.


Thoughts? Ideas?




thats not how DNA works. at all.

and the government doesn't need any stupid vaccine to make you their bitch. they have propaganda and fearmongering, fox news and "fake news!" for that. why spend billions and billions on "vaccine that's really dna gene modification" (that doesn't exist yet in humans other than in vitro) when you can MAKE money on spreading lies and fear, making up whatever truthisms you want?

people clearly are guillible enough to buy whatever you tell them to, regardless of science, hook line and sinker.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your errwits away but he's taking your 46 way. [Re: Psion]
    #27058015 - 11/26/20 12:44 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

True but the answer is in your question.



The result is war. It's a bloody truth the world is going to war. I don't know when or how it will happen but it's going to get ugly.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your errwits away but he's taking your 46 way. [Re: Fiery]
    #27058019 - 11/26/20 12:51 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

probably, but leave the damn vaccine out of it. spreading misinformation and distrust about basic science is one of the big CAUSES of war. don't be one of the contributors.

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Re: Biden isn't faking it. He's the President. [Re: Psion]
    #27058023 - 11/26/20 12:54 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

This is where I exit the conversation and point out that you are pro vaccine .


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    #27058026 - 11/26/20 12:58 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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This is where I exit the conversation and point out that you are pro vaccine .




i am pro-science and reason. vaccines thoroughly tested for safety and efficacy before being administered to the general public, and are thus proven to be safe and effective. therefore, i am pro-vaccine. if there is a vaccine that is not proven to be thus, i am not for said vaccine.

it's as simple as that, and should always be as simple as that. look at the data, use your head, and reason it out.


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    #27058027 - 11/26/20 01:00 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

also, i am anti-covid, anti-malaria, anti-bubonic plague, anti-chicken pox, anti-measles, anti-tuberculosis, anti-rabies, and a host of other deadly and/or miserable diseases vaccines have saved us from, so there's that.


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Re: Biden isn't faking it. He's the President. [Re: Psion]
    #27058028 - 11/26/20 01:02 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

just thought i would make sure to post that to make public any possible biases i might have, in the pursuit of neutrality.


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Re: Biden isn't faking it. He's the President. [Re: Psion]
    #27058030 - 11/26/20 01:04 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I say we vaccinate the poor, and give them housing, and make the wretched and broken like the rich and famous. Then ask me about some scientific study that you believe to be true, only because billions of money went into it. And go ahead and let the so called scientists infect that baby DNA into your blood.


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Re: Biden isn't faking it. He's the President. [Re: Fiery]
    #27058039 - 11/26/20 01:18 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

so basically, you have no idea of how science works.

ill give you a hint: most scientists don't make billions of dollars.

in fact, a lot of scientists do research on their own dime. for free. or out of their own money, because they actually care about making the world a better place.

(what the heck is a baby DNA anyways?)


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Re: Biden isn't faking it. He's the President. [Re: Psion]
    #27058040 - 11/26/20 01:20 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Most un educated people like me think that vaccines derive DNA strands from unborn fetus DNA.


There is a huge market for that stuff on the medical page.


Are you saying you know what that vaccine contains?



Please describe to me the exact ingredients and their derivatives and sources.


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    #27058068 - 11/26/20 02:14 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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each vaccines going to contain different exact ingredients, naturally. a polio vaccine's not going to have the same ingredients as a tuberculosis vaccine, and even two different vaccines for the same virus may be different, due to different methods used. (live but weak cousin of deadly virus vs dead pieces of virus vs RNA that provokes immune response to build antibodies against virus)

some vaccines are produced via chicken eggs - the fertilized chicken eggs are infected with the virus, allowed to host the disease for a few days, then the virus-filled fluid harvested, purified, and the virus deactivated and used for the vaccine. this is where we get our flu vaccines every year, among a few others - and this is why people with egg allergies cant get the common flu shot and have to get a different form of it. not all viruses, including COVID, infect chicken eggs though, so this isn't a viable method for all viruses. two of the new vaccines that passed phase 3 trials though, Pfizer and Moderna, use mRNA methods, which are promising but new technology - they're basically a way to quickly tailor new vaccines and tell the body "hey theres a new baddy in town, kill this baddy", and it seems effective, but so far we don't know what, if any, long term side effects there are. we do know there seems to be some unpleasant short term side effects of the vaccine - fatigue, headaches, low grade fever for a day or so - but that's fairly typical for a vaccine anyways, and not a big deal compared to the alternative of doing nothing. the real question is if there's going to be any long term effects from this new method. if there is... crap. if not, however... holy shit we probably just found the most amazing tool to fighting viruses. EVER.

time will tell on this one, and unfortunately, necessity drove us to not being able to play it safe with testing. ideally, there would have been years and years of testing this method of mRNA vaccination on high risk groups that would have been likely to die of deadly diseases anyways, not using on the general populace because they were collectively too stubborn to wear a freaking mask for half an hour to grocery shop. :shrug:


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    #27058072 - 11/26/20 02:19 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Except people who vote against the majority in their state, their vote counts as a vote for the person they voted against. Except in the two states that don't do that.


Deciding based on the popular vote would be allowing everyone an equal voice, regardless of where in the country they're located.



No.  It would not.  It would allow a majority of people to dictate to the rest of the country and it would destroy the voice of others.  At that point even having an election would be a joke if it was always decided by the biggest cities.  America is not a democracy, it is a republic.



Maybe I spoke too soon about absolutely moronic takes in this thread.


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    #27058097 - 11/26/20 02:58 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Minimum wage should be at least $11.



I think it should be 20 an hour.:shrug:



20$ an hour . . .
Ye you fucktard:lol:
Here its 1$ and 30c if your lucky:lol:


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Geinstein]
    #27058099 - 11/26/20 03:04 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Jesus fuck this thread is a Fucken Joke
Take a hand full of mushes take a few hits and Fucken chill, those two brain cells are overheating
America has been doomed from early 2000s:awesomenod:


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    #27058101 - 11/26/20 03:08 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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20$ an hour . . .
Ye you fucktard:lol:
Here its 1$ and 30c if your lucky:lol:




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Jesus fuck this thread is a Fucken Joke
Take a hand full of mushes take a few hits and Fucken chill, those two brain cells are overheating
America has been doomed from early 2000s:awesomenod:






Slow your roll there, west coast, with all the explicates.
Imagine if people working at Mc Donalds made $20 an hour, would they then be able to afford decent living and children? Would it be OK to bring some people out of poverty?



Every bite of this applewood smoked turkey leg I'm going to eat will remind me of how lucky I am to even be able to breath, let alone have family.


Can't we give every one the same chance? If the poor got money, maybe they would help us clean up the earth? Can't we clean it up right now!?


Not many people are trying to clean up the earth, but let's hope Joe Biden teams up with the world to clean this mess up.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Fiery]
    #27058107 - 11/26/20 03:20 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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20$ an hour . . .
Ye you fucktard:lol:
Here its 1$ and 30c if your lucky:lol:




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Jesus fuck this thread is a Fucken Joke
Take a hand full of mushes take a few hits and Fucken chill, those two brain cells are overheating
America has been doomed from early 2000s:awesomenod:






Slow your roll there, west coast, with all the explicates.
Imagine if people working at Mc Donalds made $20 an hour, would they then be able to afford decent living and children? Would it be OK to bring some people out of poverty?



Every bite of this applewood smoked turkey leg I'm going to eat will remind me of how lucky I am to even be able to breath, let alone have family.


Can't we give every one the same chance? If the poor got money, maybe they would help us clean up the earth? Can't we clean it up right now!?


Not many people are trying to clean up the earth, but let's hope Joe Biden teams up with the world to clean this mess up.




I hope they clean you up, it'll at least bring the average IQ up a little higher then room temp(and for your miserable half a brain cell ego that'll be in Celsius fucktard)


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    #27058246 - 11/26/20 08:11 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Except people who vote against the majority in their state, their vote counts as a vote for the person they voted against. Except in the two states that don't do that.


Deciding based on the popular vote would be allowing everyone an equal voice, regardless of where in the country they're located.



No.  It would not.  It would allow a majority of people to dictate to the rest of the country and it would destroy the voice of others.  At that point even having an election would be a joke if it was always decided by the biggest cities.  America is not a democracy, it is a republic.



Maybe I spoke too soon about absolutely moronic takes in this thread.



Who you talking to?


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Geinstein] * 1
    #27058921 - 11/26/20 03:34 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Calm down MENSAstein. Are you zinging me or something?:confused: Where is "here" and who the fuck gets 1.30 an hour theses days. My first job (taco bell) was about 3.25 I think and that was 82-83. I think waiters were getting 1.50 but I'm not sure. Gas could stay fixed at 1.00 a gallon and they'd still be billionaires. Greed is killing the planet.


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    #27059017 - 11/26/20 04:40 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I hope they clean you up, it'll at least bring the average IQ up a little higher then room temp(and for your miserable half a brain cell ego that'll be in Celsius fucktard)





This is the perfect time for the Phish song tweezer.





I'm sorry I was so cold but, its not nice to be mean and I make it a habit to try and be more nice to people.


I do however, sympathize with your plight. And also all that comes with it. IT's hard getting rocked on the dream world, and it is going to hurt more later I'm sure, but I don't regret talking about it .



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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Fiery]
    #27059428 - 11/26/20 11:09 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Wouldn't call myself a trump supporter. I'm pro freedom. I've bought 3 new guns since the election due to just the possiblity of a change to gun laws. AR15, semi auto .308, and a glock. Trump did more to push gun reform than Obama did (bans on bump stocks, wanting to raise the age from 18 to 21, pushed universal background checks)... Thankfully the supreme court vetoed the universal background check bill. Biden has talked about gun reforms, claiming that you really only need a shotgun, lol. More than 90% of violent gun crimes are committed with handguns and I don't see these politicians going after the hand guns. It about control, not reducing gun crimes. Keep chipping away at freedoms until the power balance swings and theres nothing left


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    #27059437 - 11/26/20 11:19 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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who the fuck gets 1.30 an hour theses days.




I do working in construction 4-5 years back, me quitting there was a blessing until the next job was was 6$ an day(10 hours) which there was at least 10-15 people gunning for the job.
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    #27059443 - 11/26/20 11:27 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I hope they clean you up, it'll at least bring the average IQ up a little higher then room temp(and for your miserable half a brain cell ego that'll be in Celsius fucktard)





This is the perfect time for the Phish song tweezer.





I'm sorry I was so cold but, its not nice to be mean and I make it a habit to try and be more nice to people.


I do however, sympathize with your plight. And also all that comes with it. IT's hard getting rocked on the dream world, and it is going to hurt more later I'm sure, but I don't regret talking about it .



Tell us your real struggle!




What wrong with you?
No really what's the matter?
Who dropped you on your head?
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    #27059484 - 11/27/20 12:24 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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shut this trash thread down


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    #27060115 - 11/27/20 12:29 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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oh look, another shitty fucking political thread where the OP is bullshit

shut this trash thread down



Oh look, someone with some brain cells
Thank god I was losing hope
Agree let's try and get mods to shut this trash down and hopefully kick OP
Its out of hand and is a breading ground for Contam heads.

Something for the 20$ fucktard(Fiery)


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Geinstein]
    #27060123 - 11/27/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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oh look, another shitty fucking political thread where the OP is bullshit

shut this trash thread down



Oh look, someone with some brain cells
Thank god I was losing hope
Agree let's try and get mods to shut this trash down and hopefully kick OP
Its out of hand and is a breading ground for Contam heads.

Something for the 20$ fucktard(Fiery)




you like insulting people's intelligence a lot there mate, more it seems than actually making any substantive claims. real big-brain energy :retawed:


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Ezuma] * 1
    #27060126 - 11/27/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

oh of course you're a conservative libertarian, all apologies I'll let you return to your fantasy world bub


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Ezuma]
    #27060240 - 11/27/20 01:57 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Wealthy people say that there should not be a minimum wage because when there is a minimum wage they don't want to pay their workers what they are worth. one wealthy person said that if he were to have it his way he would hire everyone at $0.50 an hour to start and then within a year if they prove themselves he would give them raises to twelve to fifteen dollars an hour.

As much as I want a 15 to $20 an hour minimum wage, all I know is that every time the minimum wage goes up everything else goes up so in the end it doesn't even make any slightest difference. If anything, raising the minimum wage hurts the country. I wish it wasn't like this.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Ezuma] * 1
    #27060372 - 11/27/20 03:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, raising the minimum wage is just completely destructive as much as I hate to say it. Sadly, when you vote Yes to raise minimum wage you're also voting to have your job replaced. You are also voting yes to have gas prices and grocery prices skyrocket also. In a perfect world there would be no such thing as money and we would all be like ants helping everyone out.


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    #27060383 - 11/27/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

no, I disagree, and so does the article I posted. It's a myth popularized and perpetuated by those who benefit from stopping any progress in our society, business owners (mostly big ones too, small business owners are pretty well as downtrodden as workers in this corporate shit show).


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27060384 - 11/27/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah, raising the minimum wage is just completely destructive as much as I hate to say it





Just like the $600 a week handouts for unemployment. The entire thing was/is a disaster...


Why would an unskilled non high school graduate go back to work and do something productive when they can get paid $600 a week to buy drugs and sit on their asses.


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    #27060388 - 11/27/20 03:13 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah, raising the minimum wage is just completely destructive as much as I hate to say it





Just like the $600 a week handouts for unemployment. The entire thing was/is a disaster...


Why would an unskilled non high school graduate go back to work and do something productive when they can get paid $600 a week to buy drugs and sit on their asses.




false, look at any country with a social safety net, they have no shortage of labor. We don't have a shortage of willing labor, we have a shortage of meaningful jobs, and that trend will only continue unless we go full Luddite sometime soon.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Ezuma]
    #27060395 - 11/27/20 03:16 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

DOn't get me wrong, the $600 a week thing DID some good for some people, but hundreds of millions of people abused the system and spread covid even more because of it.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Fiery]
    #27060398 - 11/27/20 03:19 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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DOn't get me wrong, the $600 a week thing DID some good for some people, but hundreds of millions of people abused the system and spread covid even more because of it.




wait you think HUNDREDS of millions abused the unemployment system... hundreds as in, the majority of your country's population....? I might need to see some stats on a claim that big lol


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Ezuma]
    #27060417 - 11/27/20 03:31 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Well I know for one stat, that billions of dollars in California was paid out to dead inmates, or inmates on deathrow, in a giant unemployment scam.


BILLIONS of dollars.

And yet there's potholes in the roads unfixed for years big enough to kill motorcyclists.


But hey, let's just throw $600 a week in poor peoples faces and see how that turns out and avoid real problems like how people are going out and spreading covid instead of staying home like they were supposed to.


NEWSFLASH. Americas( Trumps) handling of covid was/is a trainwreck.

It was a  disaster.


And I'm not even being political here but Trump is a giant stain on American history and should be put in jail for all the lives he ended by not taking action, and proper action at the start of this.


And even still he's acting like a child, while people are dying. . Shame on Trump, for real.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Ezuma] * 1
    #27060428 - 11/27/20 03:37 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

lol...

the unemployment boost was the first time in a long time that people were able to afford things. it's probably the ONLY reason that the economy hasn't crashed despite the unemployment hitting great depression levels - because unemployment benefits, ironically, were paying more than their jobs were, for many. i was kind of irritated in fact, because as an "essential worker" of grocery store cashier, i was getting complete shit of 9.65 an hour minimum wage still and the talk of getting a boost in pay to essential workers like me never passed, so i basically risked my health with covid and angry masskholes this hole time for no extra hazard pay and a "thank you for working" for a couple weeks from a few customers. yay! :rolleyes:

unemployment numbers, to be honest, are somewhat of a sham unless they're high. at some point, you do not want them to be super low - because why is your ENTIRE POPULACE working? you want some of them to be taking time off for family. people are always focused on unemployment numbers, but the thing is, it's gotta be meaningful employment. much of the reason the unemployment numbers were so low recently is not because the economy was booming...but because the wages were so poor, that people are having to work multiple jobs at 20-30 hours each just to make ends meet. both parents.

when over a third of americans are having to do that, that certainly keeps unemployment numbers low, sure - but that certainly doesn't indicate a healthy economy, one that has a lot of purchasing power. nor, as we saw, is it one that's able to handle a crisis that requires americans to dip into their savings, because a large portions of americans have debt, not savings, due to having such poor wages.

that's due to a terrible sub-living wage minimum wage.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Psion]
    #27060440 - 11/27/20 03:46 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yep. I agree.


"essential workers:" got screwed, and bad!

Fresh out of highschool kids working at fastfood and movies theaters for liek 20 hours a week and stuff were being paid $15/Hour-40 hours a week- to do nothing. For months on end. While hard working adults were making trash wages risking their lives at grocery stores.

That fact alone REALLY upset me. And I am not even an "essential worker" but I have friends who are. Same thing for nurses and pharmacists and so many other professions.


THe entire thing was rushed, a giant shitshow, not thought out, and has/will have terrible lasting consequences.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Ezuma] * 2
    #27060444 - 11/27/20 03:49 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Oh yeah and one more thing since we're all on rants:


Fuck Donald Trump.

I'm not even political and I think both sides are corrupt and should be in jail etc, and I honestly didn't care who won this election,

But Donald Trump cost thousands of Americans their lives and even still is doing so on his fantasy that he can someone win this election.

It's cringe worthy to watch. His legacy as president should make Americans ashamed .


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Fiery]
    #27060557 - 11/27/20 04:58 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

The extra $600 a week ended a long time ago. the fact that this country has absolutely no safety nets makes the $600 a fucking penny in a wishing well. There are still a lot of people working for the gym industry and personal care industry that still have not gone back to work. Just the attitude that thinking people don't deserve an extra $600 a week is fucking ridiculous. like who are you to say that people don't deserve to have enough fucking money to live off of during a fucking pandemic when they can't even go to fucking work?

By the way, that extra $600 a week that I was getting was spent paying off my high balance debts. I started out with $10,000 of debt and now I am down to $3,000. I plan to have it all paid off either by the end of this year or by the first or second month of 2021. If it wasn't for this pandemic and the extra $600 a week I would still be in very high debt.

what America needs to do is cut their military budget in half and use some of it as a safety net for the pandemic.

Everything about the pandemic was rushed and very poorly thought-out. now we have a bunch of fuck tardes who don't know how to wear a mask and don't know how they work who think this is all a hoax.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27060636 - 11/27/20 06:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I agree with all that, its embarrassing that such a wealthy country with many of the worlds' best minds can't get a handle on its real internal problems. As a Canadian though I have to say i get very sick of how self-satisfied canadians often are, we tend to look to the us and say 'see we're not so bad' when we should be addressing our own, not that different problems.

Economically speaking, it would be great to have more stable households in the country, as they reinvest basically all of their earnings whereas rich fuckers just dump their wealth in offshore accounts and weasel out of paying taxes to the very system that allowed them to amass such wealth in the first place


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Ezuma]
    #27060640 - 11/27/20 06:11 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I think we should do a 15/hr min wage. But only so lots of people get fired. Better results are demanded. And people get replaced by technology faster


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27061525 - 11/28/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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I think we should do a 15/hr min wage. But only so lots of people get fired. Better results are demanded. And people get replaced by technology faster



Actually a really good take if you get it to 15/hr we can have so many jobless and more jobs for technology


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Ezuma]
    #27061531 - 11/28/20 11:58 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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oh look, another shitty fucking political thread where the OP is bullshit

shut this trash thread down



Oh look, someone with some brain cells
Thank god I was losing hope
Agree let's try and get mods to shut this trash down and hopefully kick OP
Its out of hand and is a breading ground for Contam heads.

Something for the 20$ fucktard(Fiery)




you like insulting people's intelligence a lot there mate, more it seems than actually making any substantive claims. real big-brain energy :retawed:



Who, someone who can't tell that I'm both agreeing and giving a complement
Go live your socialist liberal liptard live


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27061541 - 11/28/20 12:13 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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The extra $600 a week ended a long time ago. the fact that this country has absolutely no safety nets makes the $600 a fucking penny in a wishing well. There are still a lot of people working for the gym industry and personal care industry that still have not gone back to work. Just the attitude that thinking people don't deserve an extra $600 a week is fucking ridiculous. like who are you to say that people don't deserve to have enough fucking money to live off of during a fucking pandemic when they can't even go to fucking work?

By the way, that extra $600 a week that I was getting was spent paying off my high balance debts. I started out with $10,000 of debt and now I am down to $3,000. I plan to have it all paid off either by the end of this year or by the first or second month of 2021. If it wasn't for this pandemic and the extra $600 a week I would still be in very high debt.

what America needs to do is cut their military budget in half and use some of it as a safety net for the pandemic.

Everything about the pandemic was rushed and very poorly thought-out. now we have a bunch of fuck tardes who don't know how to wear a mask and don't know how they work who think this is all a hoax.





It wouldn't even take 50% cut for the military. I think like 5% cut would double the last stimulus package. Think about that.

You take taht 5% cut and help people get through the next 6 months to a year, then everything should rebound. It would pay for itself.


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Geinstein]
    #27061560 - 11/28/20 12:24 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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oh look, another shitty fucking political thread where the OP is bullshit

shut this trash thread down



Oh look, someone with some brain cells
Thank god I was losing hope
Agree let's try and get mods to shut this trash down and hopefully kick OP
Its out of hand and is a breading ground for Contam heads.

Something for the 20$ fucktard(Fiery)




you like insulting people's intelligence a lot there mate, more it seems than actually making any substantive claims. real big-brain energy :retawed:



Who, someone who can't tell that I'm both agreeing and giving a complement
Go live your socialist liberal liptard live




I did mess up the quote function there, but even that accidentally quoted post shows you insulting someone's intelligence. I'm not against that in principle, but when it's all you've posted in this thread...


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Re: Biden isn't taking your guns away but he's taking your 45 away. [Re: Geinstein]
    #27061564 - 11/28/20 12:28 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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I hope they clean you up, it'll at least bring the average IQ up a little higher then room temp(and for your miserable half a brain cell ego that'll be in Celsius fucktard)





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Minimum wage should be at least $11.



I think it should be 20 an hour.:shrug:



20$ an hour . . .
Ye you fucktard:lol:
Here its 1$ and 30c if your lucky:lol:



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Jesus fuck this thread is a Fucken Joke
Take a hand full of mushes take a few hits and Fucken chill, those two brain cells are overheating
America has been doomed from early 2000s:awesomenod:




some examples for you kid


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