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Straw basket help
    #27051051 - 11/21/20 09:34 PM (5 days, 3 hours ago)

If I were to use a large round, would it work to put a tube of hardware cloth in the center for more air flow when stuffing with straw?


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Re: Straw basket help [Re: Sleepingstar]
    #27051198 - 11/21/20 11:32 PM (5 days, 1 hour ago)

Are you talking about pasteurizing? Straw substrate?  I don't understand -need more info. Pictures would help lots and lots.


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Re: Straw basket help [Re: scarabaeus]
    #27051311 - 11/22/20 01:02 AM (4 days, 23 hours ago)

Sorry but I can’t do pictures.
I meant after the straw is pasteurized. I was thinking that the design I was thinking of would have 2 surface areas for mushrooms to grow from.

Large round laundry basket
Take a roll of hardware cloth or chicken wire and shape it into a log.
Put the log in the center of the laundry basket
Layer wood chips, spawn, & straw on the outside of the wire log.


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Re: Straw basket help [Re: scarabaeus]
    #27051315 - 11/22/20 01:04 AM (4 days, 23 hours ago)

I am growing winecaps and don’t want the center to rot from not having enough air flow.


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Re: Straw basket help [Re: Sleepingstar]
    #27051348 - 11/22/20 01:54 AM (4 days, 22 hours ago)

oh, OK. I have never grown wine caps indoors on straw -always outdoors in a bed of wood chips. I can only assume (without personal experience), that the substrate running/ fruiting temperatures are the same. So looking at my old notes (it has been a while), I ran the spawn at 70 to 75 degrees F and I noticed primordia formation in the bed after temperatures dropped below 60 degrees F for a few days -but fruitbodies grew quite happily  even once temps rebounded.

The common button mushroom, is grown at an even lower temperature and I know that some growers have tried to increase their yield by increasing the depth of the sub but ran into the same problems/ worries that you expressed in your post. I remember somebody sending me a picture some years ago that showed a button (agaricus brunnescens) farm that was configuring their compost beds in  the shape/ configuration of a 'cinder block' to avoid the sub cooking itself.

So without blowing more hot air lol, I think you have a good idea. BVut to be effective, drill a large hole, or at least several smaller ones to allow for the 'chimney effect' i.e. -warm air comes off the top as cooler air comes in from the bottom.

Hopefully someone who grows with your intent of wines and straw in baskets will post with lots of cool stuff  that will teach u8s all something. :thumbup:


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Re: Straw basket help [Re: scarabaeus]
    #27051579 - 11/22/20 09:00 AM (4 days, 15 hours ago)

If you're in canada, I doubt the substrate will heat up that much that it will cook itself.
If you're growing indoors, don't use the woodchips, your grow will not be around long enough for the woodchips to be consumed.


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Re: Straw basket help [Re: Haywire]
    #27054916 - 11/24/20 06:36 AM (2 days, 17 hours ago)

Haywire, do you think it will fail indoors?


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Re: Straw basket help [Re: Sleepingstar]
    #27054963 - 11/24/20 08:03 AM (2 days, 16 hours ago)

no but I think it will dry out too quickly.
I have no experience with growing winecup indoors so I won't be much of a help.
you should look into making a fruiting chamber.


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Re: Straw basket help [Re: Haywire]
    #27059058 - 11/26/20 07:23 PM (5 hours, 12 minutes ago)

I layered it with cardboard, spawn, straw, sawdust, & wood chips because I didn’t have enough of wood chips to use alone. 

I thought about putting plastic on the top of it but didn’t because I read that it needs a lot of airflow.

The weather hasn’t been too horribly cold yet so maybe if I flip it outside and add a bunch of straw to the top of it, it will insulate it


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