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Sleepingstar
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Straw basket help
#27051051 - 11/21/20 07:34 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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If I were to use a large round, would it work to put a tube of hardware cloth in the center for more air flow when stuffing with straw?
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scarabaeus
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Are you talking about pasteurizing? Straw substrate? I don't understand -need more info. Pictures would help lots and lots.
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Sorry but I can’t do pictures. I meant after the straw is pasteurized. I was thinking that the design I was thinking of would have 2 surface areas for mushrooms to grow from.
Large round laundry basket Take a roll of hardware cloth or chicken wire and shape it into a log. Put the log in the center of the laundry basket Layer wood chips, spawn, & straw on the outside of the wire log.
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I am growing winecaps and don’t want the center to rot from not having enough air flow.
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oh, OK. I have never grown wine caps indoors on straw -always outdoors in a bed of wood chips. I can only assume (without personal experience), that the substrate running/ fruiting temperatures are the same. So looking at my old notes (it has been a while), I ran the spawn at 70 to 75 degrees F and I noticed primordia formation in the bed after temperatures dropped below 60 degrees F for a few days -but fruitbodies grew quite happily even once temps rebounded.
The common button mushroom, is grown at an even lower temperature and I know that some growers have tried to increase their yield by increasing the depth of the sub but ran into the same problems/ worries that you expressed in your post. I remember somebody sending me a picture some years ago that showed a button (agaricus brunnescens) farm that was configuring their compost beds in the shape/ configuration of a 'cinder block' to avoid the sub cooking itself.
So without blowing more hot air lol, I think you have a good idea. BVut to be effective, drill a large hole, or at least several smaller ones to allow for the 'chimney effect' i.e. -warm air comes off the top as cooler air comes in from the bottom.
Hopefully someone who grows with your intent of wines and straw in baskets will post with lots of cool stuff that will teach u8s all something.
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If you're in canada, I doubt the substrate will heat up that much that it will cook itself. If you're growing indoors, don't use the woodchips, your grow will not be around long enough for the woodchips to be consumed.
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Re: Straw basket help [Re: Haywire]
#27054916 - 11/24/20 04:36 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Haywire, do you think it will fail indoors?
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Haywire
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no but I think it will dry out too quickly. I have no experience with growing winecup indoors so I won't be much of a help. you should look into making a fruiting chamber.
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Re: Straw basket help [Re: Haywire]
#27059058 - 11/26/20 05:23 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I layered it with cardboard, spawn, straw, sawdust, & wood chips because I didn’t have enough of wood chips to use alone.
I thought about putting plastic on the top of it but didn’t because I read that it needs a lot of airflow.
The weather hasn’t been too horribly cold yet so maybe if I flip it outside and add a bunch of straw to the top of it, it will insulate it
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straw substrates are by nature very airy. but to be honest, I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish. do you want to grow indoors or outdoors in that basket?
an indoor grow with that substrate for SRA is going to be difficult in my opinion. you would have much better chance doing that outdoors, but I don't know what your climate is. When I think of Canada this time of the year, I imagine 3 m of snow.
SRA is a very easy mushroom to grow in an outdoor bed, so if you have the opportunity to do so, you should.
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Re: Straw basket help [Re: Haywire]
#27065599 - 11/30/20 10:50 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can wine caps even be grown indoors? I have never heard of it. As usual I am eager to listen and learn. Anybody got any info. on this?
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it has been done, yes. I suggest you try the search function.
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Re: Straw basket help [Re: Haywire]
#27065694 - 12/01/20 01:49 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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thanks brother .
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Sleepingstar
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There is a nice thread called winecaps indoors
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Thanks sheepsstar. The last time I grew wine caps was at least 15 years ago; a large cap appeared suddenly in a window box kind of thing on the side of the house whwere I used to live. The winter winds blew all kinds of debris -dust, leaves etc. and they collected to form a nice hospital bed for wine caps. I took a sample from the meat of the cap, grew it out on dishes, then spawn, then wood chips and cardboard debris, and dumped it into a smallish pit on the north side of the house.
The next fall? Bingo. It was better than I expected -actually at the time I thought I was wasting my time but my little experiment gave me 3 years of tasty meal supplements.
I never thought of trying to grow them indoors, but this is why I like hanging around the Shroomery -no matter how long you have been growing , something eventually is going to show up to teach you something.
Much love...
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I had some in a basket and a little bit in a filter bag topped with straw that had been soaked in lime. I’m very new to this so everyday is a learning experience of what not to do.
The bag was looking really good until I read decided to add a little bit of unpasteurized worm castings like a dummy. I swore I read that they needed a little bit of good microbes or whatever you call it and wanted to get leaves and a bit of dirt but was lazy and grabbed the castings.
Now everything is outside and I am hopeful for spring already.
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