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#27050577 - 11/21/20 02:54 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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https://recallgavin2020.com/
What a loon! Can this guy be any more of an obvious dictator?
So funny he has been caught, TWICE, disregarding his own Covid restrictions.
Recall Gavin Newsome and SAVE CALIFORNIA!!!
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: HamHead] 1
#27050671 - 11/21/20 04:11 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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"gavin said wear a mask and then he himself didnt wear a mask.."
yeah, thats textbook dictator
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: HamHead] 5
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Oh look, another hamhead thread where he uses one topic as a bait and switch to talk about coronavirus again.
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: mndfreeze]
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mndfreeze said: Oh look, another hamhead thread where he uses one topic as a bait and switch to talk about coronavirus again.
People in California need to work to earn money to put food in their bellies.
Gavin Newsome is responsible for dictating what and how businesses operate, during this pandemic.
Gavin Newsome is a hypocrite, eatting out and getting caught, then going on TV and smiling while he said he should practice what he preaches.
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: HamHead]
#27050698 - 11/21/20 04:27 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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nobodys perfect
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Fool me once, shame on me.
Fool me twice???
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: HamHead]
#27050708 - 11/21/20 04:32 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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do you live in CA?
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split_by_nine said: do you live in CA?
Doesn't matter.
I've signed a petition to recall the governor of my state, as it is also under curfew restrictions and limited operational capacity.
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: HamHead] 2
#27050725 - 11/21/20 04:48 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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kind of matters. you said:
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Fool me once, shame on me.
Fool me twice???
how did he fool you once? you dont even live in CA.
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Fool me once, shame on me.
Fool me twice???
how did he fool you once? you dont even live in CA.
All is one.
Understand?
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: HamHead] 6
#27050735 - 11/21/20 04:52 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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youre not doing a very good job at holding an argument.
ps. mask mandates are to protect "all".
understand?
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I guess California can stay shut down then. People will move away, like they have been.
Unfortunately they bring their backwards liberal ideas and votes with them, and infect other states like Texas.
What a joke to think Texas was going to flip blue in 2020.
Not enough Californians followed Elon Musk when he ditched Cali for shutting his Tesla plants down.
California has become a shit hole. Even more now that all those fires, no lush greenery for a few years.
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: HamHead]
#27050812 - 11/21/20 05:33 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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1. people are shitholes. CA is beautiful 2. have you ever been to CA?
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No, never been to California.
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: HamHead] 2
#27050838 - 11/21/20 05:48 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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You should really come to the state sometime. It really is the most beautiful state in the nation, and economic opportunity here is amazing.
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: Enlil]
#27050846 - 11/21/20 05:50 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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No, thank you. You can keep your city blocks designated for humans to shit on.
And with all these restrictions, that shit doesn't get cleaned, like it used to.
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: HamHead]
#27050855 - 11/21/20 05:54 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Haters gonna hate.
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: Enlil]
#27050869 - 11/21/20 05:57 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Haters gonna hate.

You're telling me!
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: HamHead] 2
#27050872 - 11/21/20 05:58 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Your brain has been turned to mush by right wing propaganda
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#27050873 - 11/21/20 05:59 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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koods said: Your brain has been turned to mush by right wing propaganda
You're really good at insulting people.
Do you talk to people like this in public?
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: HamHead]
#27050885 - 11/21/20 06:03 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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No, never been to California.
so whats your beef, dude? looks like you love cali.
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No, never been to California.
so whats your beef, dude? looks like you love cali.
That was 2018. A road trip.
Much different now.
I won't be surprised when there's checkpoints to test people and make them quarantine when they enter.
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: HamHead]
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You're really good at insulting people.
He's one of the best.
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: HamHead] 2
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No, never been to California.
so whats your beef, dude? looks like you love cali.
That was 2018. A road trip.
Much different now.
I won't be surprised when there's checkpoints to test people and make them quarantine when they enter.
You think California is much different than it was 2 years ago?
Have you ever considered that you are the one that is much different?
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#27050914 - 11/21/20 06:15 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is California still on fire, this year???
    
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#27050926 - 11/21/20 06:22 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just the national forests that Trump failed to maintain.
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HamHead said: Is California still on fire, this year???
     
Something like 90% of those fires are on land owned and maintained by the federal government
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Something like 90% of those fires are on land owned and maintained by the federal government
Trump couldn't stop it since he was too busy being cucked by the 'deep'state
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: Ezuma] 2
#27050937 - 11/21/20 06:30 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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He was too busy not ending the war, not building the wall, and not dealing with covid
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: Enlil]
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#27050940 - 11/21/20 06:32 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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You don't have to beg, dude.
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: HamHead]
#27050941 - 11/21/20 06:32 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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No, never been to California.
so whats your beef, dude? looks like you love cali.
That was 2018. A road trip.
Much different now.
tell us how it is different now
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I won't be surprised when there's checkpoints to test people and make them quarantine when they enter.
protecting people from covid-19.. how fascist of them!
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I bet there's more ash and the sunsets probably aren't the same in a smoke filled sky.
Traffic is probably better now that people have vacated to other states with lower taxes.
Gas prices were ridiculous in 2018.
I probably wouldn't be able to camp in any of those national forest, due to either fires or covid restrictions.
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Enlil said: Just the national forests that Trump failed to maintain.
I beg to differ.
Forbes, god damn you. I'm too stupid to read anything past the headline.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2018/11/27/trumps-right-about-californias-fires-it-wasnt-climate-change-two-new-california-laws-prove-it/?sh=1c3fecbb22e3
That’s an editorial. Steve Forbes is a libertarian, so expect libertarian bias in his magazine
California law doesn’t apply to federally owned land
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Enlil said: Just the national forests that Trump failed to maintain.
I beg to differ.
Forbes, god damn you. I'm too stupid to read anything past the headline.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2018/11/27/trumps-right-about-californias-fires-it-wasnt-climate-change-two-new-california-laws-prove-it/?sh=1c3fecbb22e3
That’s an editorial. Steve Forbes is a libertarian, so expect libertarian bias in his magazine
Way to discredit another source.
Easy to always be right when you discredit everything.
Here's another one.
https://www.independent.org/publications/article.asp?id=12834
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: HamHead]
#27050981 - 11/21/20 06:52 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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HamHead said: I bet there's more ash and the sunsets probably aren't the same in a smoke filled sky.
well you would lose that bet because there isnt.
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you are complaining about traffic and dont even live there? lmao
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Gas prices were ridiculous in 2018.
how is this an issue when you dont live there?
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boo-hoo. you cant pitch a tent during a wildfire or national pandemic.
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When I was there in 2018, there were no wildfires or pandemic.
I could walk into any restaurant or bar and sit down for a meal with no concerns of social distance.
I attended LAPSS in LA and attended a sound bath. A lady with a set of crystal bowls gave an exhibition for a room full of people, which probably wouldn't be able to happen in 2020. They passed out plastic eggs with a little rice in them to use as shakers, getting the crowd involved, not gonna happen in covidland.
I rode a bicycle near Berkeley in San Francisco on 4/20 and smoked cannabis in a large park with many THOUSANDS of people, who also gathered to smoke for 4/20 at 4:20 with live music and all. Parked my RV on Haight street and opened the door to a busy sidewalk with shops open at 100% capacity.
That shit ain't happenin now, and you all know it.
Stop bullshitting.
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: HamHead]
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its not happening because we are trying to safe from a highly contagious and highly infectious virus.
am i happy about covid restrictions? no. am i eager to move on and get over covid? yes. am i willing to social distance and wear a mask to get to that point? yes sir
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am i happy about covid restrictions? no. am i eager to move on and get over covid? yes. am i willing to social distance and wear a mask to get to that point? yes sir
are you?
Key word there, "trying". All these restrictions and measures put in place and we are STILL seeing more cases per day and breaking records.
California's population needs to work. Gavin Newsom is destroying an economy.
Risk is not being evaluated.
Other states are coming out, Texas, Mississippi, Florida, stating they will not follow any lockdown. Some even going against mask mandates.
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And they're stupid for doing it. California is smart to lockdown.
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Then why have there been reports of people leaving?
Joe Rogan left too, probably brought some friends along. He's got a large audience, I can assure you some of them live in California.
Gavin Newsome is under a lot of pressure and he isn't doing himself any favors by issuing all these restrictions and not following them himself.
People see that. And when Gavin Newsome says to cancel Thanksgiving while he goes out to dinner?
You expect Californians to take him serious?
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because rich dicks hate taxes that help the impoverished.
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Joe Rogan left too, probably brought some friends along. He's got a large audience, I can assure you some of them live in California.
Gavin Newsome is under a lot of pressure and he isn't doing himself any favors by issuing all these restrictions and not following them himself.
People see that. And when Gavin Newsome says to cancel Thanksgiving while he goes out to dinner?
You expect Californians to take him serious?
People move, dude. It's been happening since the beginning of time.
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Joe Rogan left too, probably brought some friends along. He's got a large audience, I can assure you some of them live in California.
Gavin Newsome is under a lot of pressure and he isn't doing himself any favors by issuing all these restrictions and not following them himself.
People see that. And when Gavin Newsome says to cancel Thanksgiving while he goes out to dinner?
You expect Californians to take him serious?
People move, dude. It's been happening since the beginning of time.
But I thought California is such a wonderful place that everyone wants to move there.
Are rolling blackouts listed in the brochures? Those sound like fun.
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Everyone? That's silly. 1/8 of the country lives there, though.
What brochures are you talking about? I've lived here 44 years and never seen a brochure or a rolling blackout.
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https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2020/11/18/covid-19-pandemic-sending-additional-trash-into-bay-area-waterways/
I know, everyone is silly, and stupid.

Rolling blackouts have been a thing. 2020 is no different. It was reported due to strain on their grid.
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Maybe, but I've never experienced one.
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People are willing to pay the most to live in California. A USA Today article published this year shows 11 of the 12 most expensive metro areas are in California:
1. San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA metro area 2. San Francisco-Oakland-Hayward, CA metro area 3. Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA metro area 4. San Diego-Carlsbad, CA metro area 5. Santa Rosa, CA metro area 6. Napa, CA metro area 7. Santa Cruz-Watsonville, CA metro area 8. Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim, CA metro area 9. Fairbanks, AK metro area 10. Vallejo-Fairfield, CA metro area 11. San Luis Obispo-Paso Robles-Arroyo Grande, CA metro area 12. Santa Maria-Santa Barbara, CA metro area
I guess people still like it here (I live in California myself).
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HamHead said: When I was there in 2018, there were no wildfires or pandemic.
I could walk into any restaurant or bar and sit down for a meal with no concerns of social distance.
I attended LAPSS in LA and attended a sound bath. A lady with a set of crystal bowls gave an exhibition for a room full of people, which probably wouldn't be able to happen in 2020. They passed out plastic eggs with a little rice in them to use as shakers, getting the crowd involved, not gonna happen in covidland.
I rode a bicycle near Berkeley in San Francisco on 4/20 and smoked cannabis in a large park with many THOUSANDS of people, who also gathered to smoke for 4/20 at 4:20 with live music and all. Parked my RV on Haight street and opened the door to a busy sidewalk with shops open at 100% capacity.
That shit ain't happenin now, and you all know it.
Stop bullshitting.
What does that have to do with California. The entire world has made adjustments for the pandemic.
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I know, everyone is silly, and stupid.

Rolling blackouts have been a thing. 2020 is no different. It was reported due to strain on their grid.
Rolling blackouts are a thing in lots of areas where electricity demand is highly variable. Here in the DC area the power company gives you a slight discount on your rate if you let them install a device that lets them disable your air conditioner if the demand for power is too high.
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HamHead said: Then why have there been reports of people leaving?
Joe Rogan left too, probably brought some friends along. He's got a large audience, I can assure you some of them live in California.
Gavin Newsome is under a lot of pressure and he isn't doing himself any favors by issuing all these restrictions and not following them himself.
People see that. And when Gavin Newsome says to cancel Thanksgiving while he goes out to dinner?
You expect Californians to take him serious?
California has the largest population in country by a mile. What are you even talking about?
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3. Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA metro area
I'm kind of surprised, I didn't think it was that expensive here.
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1000 oaks is a few feet away from Malibu.. so im sure it overlaps
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Malibu is kind of a shithole though. I'm baffled that property is expensive as it is there. I'd take living at the beach in Oxnard or Ventura over Malibu any day.
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I never knew you were nardcore.
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Even says so on my shirt.
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Now I know.
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HamHead said: Then why have there been reports of people leaving?
Joe Rogan left too, probably brought some friends along. He's got a large audience, I can assure you some of them live in California.
Gavin Newsome is under a lot of pressure and he isn't doing himself any favors by issuing all these restrictions and not following them himself.
People see that. And when Gavin Newsome says to cancel Thanksgiving while he goes out to dinner?
You expect Californians to take him serious?
California has the largest population in country by a mile. What are you even talking about?
Huh? What's your point?
Here's mine.
California unemployment rates are ~9.3%, being the largest population.
New York, I assume will be second in population size. Unemployment in New York is ~9.6%.
Florida is number three. Unemployment rate of Florida is ~6.5%.
What are some differences between these three states?
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One difference is Florida has a median household income $20,000 lower than California, and $12,000 lower than New York
Or maybe you mean the difference between minimum wage in Florida compared to New York and California, which is $3 per hour.
And New York is the fourth largest state after California, Texas and Florida.
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Reason magazine. What do you expect a bunch of libertarians to say?
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koods said: Reason magazine. What do you expect a bunch of libertarians to say?
Uh, maybe they went and talked with people who actually work in the industry? You know, investigative journalism?
Don't see much of it these days.
Here's this, to get back to dick tater Gavin Newsome.
https://www.gov.ca.gov/2020/11/16/governor-newsom-announces-new-immediate-actions-to-curb-covid-19-transmission/
"Today’s action will remain in effect until the State Public Health Officer determines it is appropriate to make modifications based on public health conditions and data."
Not fucking around. No end date, to remain in effect until The Public Health Officer determines?
Just one public health officer?
Not like a team of medical professionals or professors?
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what is the issue exactly?
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what is the issue exactly?
Huh?
Unemployment is high. People will not be able to pay bills and put food in their bellies when businesses are closed.
If mask work so well, why is it necessary to close businesses and destroy an economy and peoples livelihoods?
Mask compliance is high in California, so what's the issue with keeping businesses open when mask are so effective?
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people are working and what you are saying is 100% not happening.
explain how "masks are required" makes the economy not work..?
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https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2020-11-16/california-governor-imposes-new-restrictions-to-curb-covid
Newsom's so-called emergency brake will halt reopening plans and put almost all of the state back under the strictest set of rules that halt indoor worship and force most indoor business to close or operate at a fraction of their capacity and keep most schools closed, including the nation’s second-largest school district in Los Angeles.""
Kids being out of school forces many parents to miss work, even if their workplace is operating, at whatever capacity.
Restaurants have been crippled, and they employ A LOT OF PEOPLE.
Mask have nothing to do with closures.
I'm arguing, if mask work as well as everyone is saying, why can't businesses open with mask mandates?
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youre right. WW3 is on the brink because parents have to stay home with their kids and restaurants are only allowed to operate at 50% capacity! NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! HUMANITY WILL NEVER RECOVER FROM THIS!
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That sort of talk belongs in conspiracy. No one is talking about WW3.
This thread is about Gavin Newsome and his unnecessary lockdowns which drives people into poverty.
Again, if mask work, why all these strict restrictions on the people of California?
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because people arent following the guidelines and even worse, are pushing back against them.. like you.
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split_by_nine said: because people arent following the guidelines and even worse, are pushing back against them.. like you.
Is that it?
Why would they be "pushing back"?
Maybe because they see Gavin Newsome out with dinner guest not wearing a mask while eating indoors. He said it was outside, but it wasn't. He said he wasn't expecting so many people to be attending, but they went ahead with dinner anyway, I heard it was an expensive restaurant too, like $400 a plate without any drinks.
And he got caught twice!!!
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That sort of talk belongs in conspiracy. No one is talking about WW3.
This thread is about Gavin Newsome and his unnecessary lockdowns which drives people into poverty.
Again, if mask work, why all these strict restrictions on the people of California?
California has one of the lowest rates of new infections in the country. Apparently Newsome is song something right.
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That sort of talk belongs in conspiracy. No one is talking about WW3.
This thread is about Gavin Newsome and his unnecessary lockdowns which drives people into poverty.
Again, if mask work, why all these strict restrictions on the people of California?
California has one of the lowest rates of new infections in the country. Apparently Newsome is song something right.
Are you going by per capita numbers, in a state with the highest population?
You know, if a small town of 300 people sees 3 infections, it could be deemed a hot spot due to such a high percentage of people being infected.
Case numbers hold almost zero weight. Any positive test result is considered a case, even if those people have no symptoms.
I'm going to point out again, SARS and MERS cases were only those with symptoms in hospital settings. No mass testing for asymptomatic 'cases'.
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Who cares what they did for SARS and MERS.
Yes I’m going by per capita. How else are going to compare states?
You don’t like case numbers? How about deaths?
California has one of the lowest (4th lowest) per capita daily deaths over the past 7 days. 0.16 per 100,000. The state with the highest is your favorite South Dakota with 2.56 per 100,000. That’s a whopping 16x higher than California.
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: koods]
#27051376 - 11/22/20 12:52 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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koods said: Who cares what they did for SARS and MERS.
Yes I’m going by per capita. How else are going to compare states?
You don’t like case numbers? How about deaths?
California has one of the lowest (4th lowest) per capita daily deaths over the past 7 days. 0.16 per 100,000. The state with the highest is your favorite South Dakota with 2.56 per 100,000. That’s a whopping 16x higher than California.
What's the population difference? And why does that matter?
I'm not going to get into why it matters that only symptomatic people were tested in SARS MERS cases. If you can't figure it out, no one can help you.
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: HamHead]
#27051398 - 11/22/20 01:07 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do you not understand what per capita means?
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: koods] 1
#27051437 - 11/22/20 01:53 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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koods said: Do you not understand what per capita means?
chances are
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: HamHead]
#27051443 - 11/22/20 01:58 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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HamHead I fucking love you bro, but you are a glutton for punishment with these threads, lmao.
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: koods]
#27051593 - 11/22/20 07:08 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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koods said: Do you not understand what per capita means?
Yeah. 3 out of 300 is, 1% infection rate, per capita.
Now, let's do California. Estimated 39 million. Cases per day...
Great.

Looks to be a 7 day rolling average of 11,784. 39,000,000÷11,784
Please stop me if my math is wrong.
Comes to ~.03% infection rate per capita in California.
Amirite?
I'm going to take a wild guess and say, no.
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Re: Recall Gavin Newsome [Re: HamHead] 3
#27051611 - 11/22/20 07:08 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: This has just turned into another covid thread, and we already have one of those in this forum.
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