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Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath?
    #27049785 - 11/21/20 01:42 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I'm trying to better myself through the use of mushrooms. I understand they help you feel emotions, which I don't have.

I first took .5 and all I got was a good mood and some barely interesting visuals on streetlights.

I then took 1.3 a few days later, and did not have much experience of emotions. I may have felt sadness for a dead friend for a half a second. I was really trying to feel something but failed the first time and mostly failed the second time.

Advice?

Edit: I'd also like to point out that I got bored part way through the second trip. Does anyone ever get bored on mushrooms?


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: zeusophobia1]
    #27049812 - 11/21/20 02:57 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

So you're a paranoid-schizophrenic-psychopath..

:thataintright:

I have no idea if mushrooms can help you but by all means give them a chance, keep increasing the dosage if you feel comfortable.

:paranoid:

Report back.

No i never get bored on mushrooms, quite the opposite.


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: The Thing]
    #27049826 - 11/21/20 03:17 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Correct, they can be comorbid


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    #27049857 - 11/21/20 04:20 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: Phony Phone] * 1
    #27049863 - 11/21/20 04:44 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Might help. Psychedelics can open new pathways in the brain.

No harm trying. Go large and see what happens.


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #27049912 - 11/21/20 05:56 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I've always been interested as to how psychopathic personalities respond to psychedelics. How do you find cannabis? Would you get loved up if you dropped X? Do you experience any fear when using psychedelics and is it possible to have bad trips?

But what's the background? How/why were you diagnosed as psychopathic and what are the reasons you decided to take mushrooms in order to try for some kind of cure? Are you not moved to do this out of care for your family or loved ones, or is it just because of legal issues or something?


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: wolf8312]
    #27049940 - 11/21/20 06:45 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Mushrooms let me experience stuff like empathy and other emotions that I normally completely lack, they are definitely worth to try.


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: zeusophobia1]
    #27049995 - 11/21/20 07:51 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

psychopath?

hmm...

there is no cure for boredom, or for the "dont-care" illusions that are part of the "co-morbidity", although, if you can see life as a journey (as opposed to a gift, or a Disneyland ride - no refunds, no rewards) which takes effort and interest, and which is personal and unrelated to the games that go on between self and other, then, this could be a good route for you, trail blazer that you are.

it will take time and effort.
a lot of both.

read up, plan your space, create your own treatment plan, keep notes, make sure there is enough food and drink and hygienic comforts and get busy learning to connect and reconnect. Do not make a game out of it.


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: MindMeower]
    #27050038 - 11/21/20 08:28 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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MindMeower said:
Mushrooms let me experience stuff like empathy and other emotions that I normally completely lack, they are definitely worth to try.




Try watching the movie CoCo and report back! It gets me every time, especially the final scene with the grandmother!

A psychopath does have the benefit of not having to deal with the pain of being human but also to never know what it feels like either.

Painful as it is at times, it is also beautiful.

Without the emotions though, very much like a mushroom trip, CoCo probably would just be a bunch of bright flashing colors!


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: wolf8312]
    #27050128 - 11/21/20 09:27 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I agree with redgreenvines
make yourself your own therapist
make your life as if you were your own therapist
if that makes sense
and to you :smile:

one's life is somewhat like a laboratory
you want the good stuff
as little bad stuff as possible


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: wolf8312]
    #27050312 - 11/21/20 11:02 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

wolf8312 said:
I've always been interested as to how psychopathic personalities respond to psychedelics. How do you find cannabis? Would you get loved up if you dropped X? Do you experience any fear when using psychedelics and is it possible to have bad trips?

But what's the background? How/why were you diagnosed as psychopathic and what are the reasons you decided to take mushrooms in order to try for some kind of cure? Are you not moved to do this out of care for your family or loved ones, or is it just because of legal issues or something?




I'm prone to paranoia on cannabis. I haven't had a bad trip yet.

Pretty much the family thing. It seems shitty that my parents care so much about me yet I don't give a shit.


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: zeusophobia1]
    #27050527 - 11/21/20 02:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I'm sure they do care a lot but its up to you to figure this out. Not them.


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: wolf8312]
    #27050629 - 11/21/20 03:46 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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wolf8312 said:
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MindMeower said:
Mushrooms let me experience stuff like empathy and other emotions that I normally completely lack, they are definitely worth to try.




Try watching the movie CoCo and report back! It gets me every time, especially the final scene with the grandmother!





Is it about CoCo the Clown?


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: funky123]
    #27051006 - 11/21/20 07:05 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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funky123 said:
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wolf8312 said:
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MindMeower said:
Mushrooms let me experience stuff like empathy and other emotions that I normally completely lack, they are definitely worth to try.




Try watching the movie CoCo and report back! It gets me every time, especially the final scene with the grandmother!





Is it about CoCo the Clown?




Yes COCO the clown the movie! A deeply moving adventure with a clown and his wacky grandmother!


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: zeusophobia1]
    #27051047 - 11/21/20 07:33 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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wolf8312 said:
I've always been interested as to how psychopathic personalities respond to psychedelics. How do you find cannabis? Would you get loved up if you dropped X? Do you experience any fear when using psychedelics and is it possible to have bad trips?

But what's the background? How/why were you diagnosed as psychopathic and what are the reasons you decided to take mushrooms in order to try for some kind of cure? Are you not moved to do this out of care for your family or loved ones, or is it just because of legal issues or something?




I'm prone to paranoia on cannabis. I haven't had a bad trip yet.

Pretty much the family thing. It seems shitty that my parents care so much about me yet I don't give a shit.





Hum. I would be skeptical that you are indeed psychopathic if prone to any sort of anxiety or paranoia, though I'm obviously not an expert.

But from what I've read on the subject, one of the salient features of psychopathy seems to be a distinct lack of anxiety/paranoia/fear in situations others would find highly stressful, for example in prison. The way I understood the condition was that it exists on the opposite end of the mental health spectrum to things like anxiety disorders or psychosis.

This isn't coming from me by the way, but Robert Hare and Kent Kiehl (who went on to pioneer research into psychopathy) whose two books are probably the most informative and authoritative I have ever read on the subject (although Kents book is a little unfocused at times).

Ted Bundy for (extreme) example was on death row quite happily smoking Cannabis without a care in the world, whereas a person prone to worrying more, in that situation would probably have a panic attack! Psychopaths are just not really wired up to feel fear or worry about things, so if you do I would ask for a second opinion maybe!

But we still don't know how you came to be diagnosed as psychopathic? You didn't do it yourself online did you? :grin:

Are you prone to worrying or paranoia without cannabis?

As the adage goes too, if you're worried about being a psychopath you are probably not a psychopath!


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: wolf8312]
    #27051058 - 11/21/20 07:41 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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wolf8312 said:
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zeusophobia1 said:
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wolf8312 said:
I've always been interested as to how psychopathic personalities respond to psychedelics. How do you find cannabis? Would you get loved up if you dropped X? Do you experience any fear when using psychedelics and is it possible to have bad trips?

But what's the background? How/why were you diagnosed as psychopathic and what are the reasons you decided to take mushrooms in order to try for some kind of cure? Are you not moved to do this out of care for your family or loved ones, or is it just because of legal issues or something?




I'm prone to paranoia on cannabis. I haven't had a bad trip yet.

Pretty much the family thing. It seems shitty that my parents care so much about me yet I don't give a shit.





Hum. I would be skeptical that you are indeed psychopathic if prone to any sort of anxiety or paranoia, though I'm obviously not an expert.

But from what I've read on the subject, one of the salient features of psychopathy seems to be a distinct lack of anxiety/paranoia/fear in situations others would find highly stressful, for example in prison. The way I understood the condition was that it exists on the opposite end of the mental health spectrum to things like anxiety disorders or psychosis.

This isn't coming from me by the way, but Robert Hare and Kent Kiehl (who went on to pioneer research into psychopathy) whose two books are probably the most informative and authoritative I have ever read on the subject (although Kents book is a little unfocused at times).

Ted Bundy for (extreme) was on death row quite happily smoking Cannabis without a care in the world, whereas a person prone to worrying more, in that situation would probably have a panic attack! Psychopaths are just not really wired up to feel fear or worry about things, so if you do I would ask for a second opinion maybe!

But we still don't know how you came to be diagnosed as psychopathic? You didn't do it yourself online did you? :grin:

Are you prone to worrying or paranoia without cannabis?

As the adage goes too, if you're worried about being a psychopath you are probably not a psychopath!





I don't have anxiety or fear. I do have paranoid delusions... which mushrooms don't seem to make worse so far. Weed makes it way worse.

I'm confident in the diagnosis.

I don't want to get too much into it as I don't want to seem too much like a monster here. A sense of right from wrong was instilled in me from a young age, so I'm not typically dangerous.

But I've been to jail and was just chilling. Even the first time. I've almost been murdered 4 times with the most recent being a week ago. The reason for almost is I can stay calm in any situation.

Last time I did mushrooms I was positive I was going to die but didn't really care and ended up rationalizing that not being able to breath was probably normal for mushrooms as I googled that it's normal for LSD. Wasn't even nervous.

I think I'd be doing less dangerous shit if I had a healthy sense of fear at the very least.


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: zeusophobia1]
    #27051298 - 11/21/20 10:50 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Try it and let us know what happens. I'd bump the dose up as much as you are able to handle. I get a lot of emotions in the 5g range. Maybe try 3.5g and see how that goes and increase if you are up for the journey. I don't think it's abnormal to get get bored on a 1.2g dose. I would to. When I take mushrooms I want to "launch." At 1.2 g I would just be wishing for more intensity


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: Rise against]
    #27052310 - 11/22/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

"those that say they can, and those that say they cant, are both usually right." It's just a suggestion but maybe a daily mantra will rewire your conciseness.

it could be for an example, repeating to yourself, I am a kind caring compassionate loving person, I am everyone and everyone is me, I deserve to be loved the same as every other me.
I will clense my negative thoughts with kindness, I am the light that has arose above the dark.
there is no them only us.

At least your trying to make your parents happy, its powerful tool to know, that whatever you think of yourself you will become.


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: Northerner]
    #27052335 - 11/22/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Might help. Psychedelics can open new pathways in the brain.

No harm trying. Go large and see what happens.




Except for the actual harm that comes from people like him taking large doses, wigging out, and being restrained or arrested.


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #27052797 - 11/22/20 06:57 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

No psychedelics do not cure psychopathy.

In one of his books Jon Ronson talks about an experiment in the sixties that involved giving LSD to diagnosed psychopaths in a criminal psych ward. Admittedly it was an appallingly designed experiment but the results were pretty conclusive.

It taught them how to better understand empathy in order to use it to their advantage. The recidivism rate for the inmates that went through this experiment was drastically higher than inmates with a similar history and diagnosis. In fact I think several of them went on to commit far worse crimes than what they were in for, murder and rape, etc. I'm sure you could find the details of the study of went looking for it.


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: Ignorantape]
    #27053237 - 11/23/20 12:06 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Psychedelics just remove the boundaries and if you have trouble already then it might not be a good idea. Or it might be depends i guess.


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #27053326 - 11/23/20 04:09 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Northerner said:
Might help. Psychedelics can open new pathways in the brain.

No harm trying. Go large and see what happens.




Except for the actual harm that comes from people like him taking large doses, wigging out, and being restrained or arrested.



Yeah, he's not psychotic man, just psychopathic. Bit of a difference there.

Then again.. who knows. Might be dangerous.


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: zeusophobia1]
    #27053704 - 11/23/20 10:26 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I would not recommend you at all to use psychedelics like this, totally by yourself.

Properly you would need experienced surveillance to help you guiding and digesting the experience in order to make it improve your condition in any way, because a diagnosed person using entheogens randomly without any guide is more like playing the russian roulette and could easily end up making it worst.

If you are totally convinced that psychedelics are what you really need i would seriously recommend you to consider looking for experienced psychological or at least shamanic counsel and surveillance to help you with it, and probably using ayahuasca/DMT over mushrooms.

This would be risky anyway but at least you will enhance the chances to make it profitable.

And in any case, i would encourage you to consider other alternatives like trying a vipassana course/retreat because after quite a few registered experiences raw meditation have shown to have a positive impact in conditions like yours, being far safer. It is something that could lead you to the best possible outcome of using psychedelics, even to a strong and mind changing breakthrough or psychedelic experience, but in a much more natural and progressive way that could help you to get rid of most of the risks using substances.


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: Muscario]
    #27053810 - 11/23/20 11:40 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I'm curious about your "condition" because I have felt similarly in quite a few situations.I'd be helpful if you could elaborate a bit.

IME shrooms make me feel a lot of things, like love, calm, peacefulness but I've also felt pain, anxiety and have gotten bored a couple of times.
I usually take 2/2.5g.

Taking a higher dose in the company of a reliable friend or guide sounds like a good idea.


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: enzofilo]
    #27054849 - 11/24/20 01:58 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

It could expand your mind and make you think in more psychopathic ways rather than curing it.

And your doses are too low. I think 2g would be the bare minimum to have a profound experience.


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: zeusophobia1]
    #27054941 - 11/24/20 05:09 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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zeusophobia1 said:
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wolf8312 said:
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zeusophobia1 said:
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wolf8312 said:
I've always been interested as to how psychopathic personalities respond to psychedelics. How do you find cannabis? Would you get loved up if you dropped X? Do you experience any fear when using psychedelics and is it possible to have bad trips?

But what's the background? How/why were you diagnosed as psychopathic and what are the reasons you decided to take mushrooms in order to try for some kind of cure? Are you not moved to do this out of care for your family or loved ones, or is it just because of legal issues or something?




I'm prone to paranoia on cannabis. I haven't had a bad trip yet.

Pretty much the family thing. It seems shitty that my parents care so much about me yet I don't give a shit.





Hum. I would be skeptical that you are indeed psychopathic if prone to any sort of anxiety or paranoia, though I'm obviously not an expert.

But from what I've read on the subject, one of the salient features of psychopathy seems to be a distinct lack of anxiety/paranoia/fear in situations others would find highly stressful, for example in prison. The way I understood the condition was that it exists on the opposite end of the mental health spectrum to things like anxiety disorders or psychosis.

This isn't coming from me by the way, but Robert Hare and Kent Kiehl (who went on to pioneer research into psychopathy) whose two books are probably the most informative and authoritative I have ever read on the subject (although Kents book is a little unfocused at times).

Ted Bundy for (extreme) was on death row quite happily smoking Cannabis without a care in the world, whereas a person prone to worrying more, in that situation would probably have a panic attack! Psychopaths are just not really wired up to feel fear or worry about things, so if you do I would ask for a second opinion maybe!

But we still don't know how you came to be diagnosed as psychopathic? You didn't do it yourself online did you? :grin:

Are you prone to worrying or paranoia without cannabis?

As the adage goes too, if you're worried about being a psychopath you are probably not a psychopath!





I don't have anxiety or fear. I do have paranoid delusions... which mushrooms don't seem to make worse so far. Weed makes it way worse.





But just so I can understand how does that actually work?

How can one have paranoia or paranoid delusions without having any anxiety or fear? I see you said on another thread that you are suffering from paranoid schizophrenia as well?

But what I don't understand is how could one be experiencing paranoid (psychosis) delusions without being wracked with some form of anxiety or fear?

I have experienced paranoid psychosis myself and it was just about as far from fearless and worry-free psychopathy as I'd imagine one could get!     

Maybe this is something I just don't understand properly, or maybe we have our terminology mixed up (NPD, sociopathology/psychopathy etc) but if you don't mind me asking, what form do your paranoid delusions take?

Do you hear bullying voices for example? A commentary, or multitude of different voices commenting maliciously about everything you are doing?

I once heard a story about a psychotic patient who killed someone because his delusions had convinced him he was psychopathic!

I'm not saying this is true with your case but it does show how a psychotic patient can end up believing himself to be almost anything/anyone.


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: wolf8312]
    #27055274 - 11/24/20 10:13 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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How can one have paranoia or paranoid delusions without having any anxiety or fear? I see you said on another thread that you are suffering from paranoid schizophrenia as well?




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TABLE 1. DSM-5 Criteria for Paranoid Personality Disordera
A. A pervasive distrust and suspiciousness of others such that their motives are interpreted as malevolent, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by four (or more) of the following:
1. Suspects, without sufficient basis, that others are exploiting, harming, or deceiving him or her.
2. Is preoccupied with unjustified doubts about the loyalty or trustworthiness of friends or associates.
3. Is reluctant to confide in others because of unwarranted fear that the information will be used maliciously against him or her.
4. Reads hidden demeaning or threatening meanings into benign remarks or events.
5. Persistently bears grudges (i.e., is unforgiving of insults, injuries, or slights).
6. Perceives attacks on his or her character or reputation that are not apparent to others and is quick to react angrily or to counterattack.
7. Has recurrent suspicions, without justification, regarding fidelity of spouse or sexual partner.

(https://psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/appi.ajp-rj.2016.110103)





"Fear" in this context isn't necessarily associated with a feeling of anxiety. Like when normal people say "I fear you're right.". That also isn't usually accompanied with an actual feeling of fear. It just refers to identification of something detrimental or harmful.

In that sense, you can (falsely) anticipate harmful scheming from other people while not feeling anxiety - just (falsely) realizing something is going down.

If you suspect somebody to dislike you and talk bad behind your back - do you necessarily feel fear? Mostly not I assume. Now extrapolate this to suspecting somebody wanting to bankrupt you or steel from you or kill you. Most people would respond to that with anxiety. Some people (psychopaths) will just identify it and respond - while referring to this thought process confusingly as "fear" and psychiatrically as "paranoia" because that identification is flawed to begin with.

If you want to understand better how psychopaths compute their environment, I recommend this blog: http://www.psychopathicwritings.com/. There are a lot of people talking about how they are psychopaths while in fact being just delusional and glorifying that condition, trying to create a tangible and meaningful identity for their tormented mind. The guy from that blog does not strike me as such. He describes himself very consistent and plausible.


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: funky123]
    #27055300 - 11/24/20 10:34 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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How can one have paranoia or paranoid delusions without having any anxiety or fear? I see you said on another thread that you are suffering from paranoid schizophrenia as well?




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TABLE 1. DSM-5 Criteria for Paranoid Personality Disordera
A. A pervasive distrust and suspiciousness of others such that their motives are interpreted as malevolent, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by four (or more) of the following:
1. Suspects, without sufficient basis, that others are exploiting, harming, or deceiving him or her.
2. Is preoccupied with unjustified doubts about the loyalty or trustworthiness of friends or associates.
3. Is reluctant to confide in others because of unwarranted fear that the information will be used maliciously against him or her.
4. Reads hidden demeaning or threatening meanings into benign remarks or events.
5. Persistently bears grudges (i.e., is unforgiving of insults, injuries, or slights).
6. Perceives attacks on his or her character or reputation that are not apparent to others and is quick to react angrily or to counterattack.
7. Has recurrent suspicions, without justification, regarding fidelity of spouse or sexual partner.

(https://psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/appi.ajp-rj.2016.110103)





"Fear" in this context isn't necessarily associated with a feeling of anxiety. Like when normal people say "I fear you're right.". That also isn't usually accompanied with an actual feeling of fear. It just refers to identification of something detrimental or harmful.

In that sense, you can (falsely) anticipate harmful scheming from other people while not feeling anxiety - just (falsely) realizing something is going down.

If you suspect somebody to dislike you and talk bad behind your back - do you necessarily feel fear? Mostly not I assume. Now extrapolate this to suspecting somebody wanting to bankrupt you or steel from you or kill you. Most people would respond to that with anxiety. Some people (psychopaths) will just identify it and respond - while referring to this thought process confusingly as "fear" and psychiatrically as "paranoia" because that identification is flawed to begin with.





Yes at first I assumed something like that myself, but as I mentioned above, in another thread he also says he is suffering from paranoid schizophrenia. As mentioned already, psychopathy is a very specific personality disorder characterized by a pronounced lack of emotion, which means that normal responses to stress such as anxiety and fear are absent or greatly diminished, as the OP himself said they were.

But then can one really have paranoid schizophrenia and be lacking in fear/anxiety? Not claiming to know the answer by the way, just something I don’t understand and am a bit skeptical about.


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: wolf8312]
    #27055344 - 11/24/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

:whathesaid:

Very interesting.

It would seem that the diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia, as written in many places, would include "profound fear and anxiety". And a defining phenomenon of psychopathy is the "Shallow Affect", or the "inability to feel emotions deeply enough to elicit specific feelings/responses".

So if all of that is true, wouldn't being a "psychopath" be incompatible with paranoid schizophrenia?

I think the problem is that, we don't have a full understanding of the complexities of mental illness. The "range" of symptoms that are experienced by people with a specific mental illness can be inordinately large (so much so that misdiagnosis is a common problem).

The question then would be, are the diagnoses that the OP has received correct? Was there a possible misdiagnosis?

It seems reasonable that someone who has "delusions" can be deluded to think that they have no feelings. But it seems unlikely that, if lack of feeling is necessary to be a "psychopath" that one could have paranoid schizophrenia which seems marked by extreme negative emotions.

And OP, we don't know if mushrooms will help you. We don't understand enough about the nature of psychopathy and how it might be affected by the actives in mushrooms.


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #27055865 - 11/24/20 05:09 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia at 19. I had intense fear and anxiety at the time.

I no longer experience any emotions. I think I grew into the psychopathy.

To report back, the mushrooms made me extremely calm last night after a lemon tek.


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: zeusophobia1]
    #27056608 - 11/25/20 05:51 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia at 19. I had intense fear and anxiety at the time.

I no longer experience any emotions. I think I grew into the psychopathy.

To report back, the mushrooms made me extremely calm last night after a lemon tek.




Growing research suggest psychopathy is a condition a person is born with and not something he becomes. If you look into a psychopaths childhood, for the parents, there will almost always have been early evidence of the condition (even if not overtly criminal) where they realized something wasn't right with the child (just as if you had a child with autism).

Sociopaths can develop a lack of conscience over time, for example if one grows up in a mafia family in which crime is considered normal, but even sociopaths will still often have there own version of morality within the moral parameters of their criminal fraternity.

One of the negative symptoms of schizophrenia however can be blunted affect (I used to get this feeling at the end of a big trip but it's no doubt far worse with a life long illness) where the patient feels flat and emotionally impoverished.

Maybe it is these symptoms you are mistaking with psychopathy?


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: wolf8312]
    #27058105 - 11/26/20 03:17 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Im not sure if psychopaths even admit to being psychopaths, they dont like being identified as one.. and yeah :whathesaid: it may just be a case of those schizophrenic meds dulling you but who knows, its a strange world.

You're not really giving us much to work with here, pretty vague..

Surely you cant become paranoid as a psychopath? I'm very familiar with paranoia, its all fear based.


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    #27058191 - 11/26/20 07:00 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia at 19. I had intense fear and anxiety at the time.

I no longer experience any emotions. I think I grew into the psychopathy.

To report back, the mushrooms made me extremely calm last night after a lemon tek.




I do not buy heavily into genetic psychopathy, especially as you indicate growing into it. this sounds more like finding the domain and settling in there.

and from your report you also found a nice settling into shrooming peacefulness.

the psychological labels may have just been assigned due to the outfall of politics and drug companies distorting medical integrity into the business of subjugating the masses. Doctors think they have to find druggable disorders.


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27058233 - 11/26/20 08:01 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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zeusophobia1 said:
I was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia at 19. I had intense fear and anxiety at the time.

I no longer experience any emotions. I think I grew into the psychopathy.

To report back, the mushrooms made me extremely calm last night after a lemon tek.




I do not buy heavily into genetic psychopathy, especially as you indicate growing into it. this sounds more like finding the domain and settling in there.

and from your report you also found a nice settling into shrooming peacefulness.

the psychological labels may have just been assigned due to the outfall of politics and drug companies distorting medical integrity into the business of subjugating the masses. Doctors think they have to find druggable disorders.




I think if you read Kiehl‘s book you might be persuaded that psychology, for so long such a lot of barely philosophical waffle, is increasingly evolving into an honest to God science as the technology is finally catching up. The research into psychopathy itself was supported by peer review studies that proved pretty conclusively that psychopathy was not an abstract or subjective concept, but a physical abnormality (for want of a better word) demonstrably distinguishing psychopathic brains from those of non psychopaths. Not to say that the mental health industry in the US and elsewhere isn’t corrupt as shit of course, but I’m not sure total cynicism is warranted haha!


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: wolf8312]
    #27058595 - 11/26/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

could it be that they prescribe too much medication?

I think I got too high a dose

I was functioning almost pretty well in 2014 but when I got more medication I could not do as much

it's on of the most significant things in my life

and maybe baddest

could we lower the dose?


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    #27058602 - 11/26/20 11:31 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

currently I get 4 pills in the evening but I'd rather get three

the thing is it is more important how we do than how we have it

and the doctors might be prescribing from a medical viewpoint where they don't understand the other things as well how one has it etc.

I mean they could be thinking this symptom I want to rid

I am a doctor I am just suppoes to rid symptoms

when really they detract wildly from it

aren't we supposed to not let them get away with that?


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zeusophobia1 said:
I was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia at 19. I had intense fear and anxiety at the time.

I no longer experience any emotions. I think I grew into the psychopathy.

To report back, the mushrooms made me extremely calm last night after a lemon tek.




I do not buy heavily into genetic psychopathy, especially as you indicate growing into it. this sounds more like finding the domain and settling in there.

and from your report you also found a nice settling into shrooming peacefulness.

the psychological labels may have just been assigned due to the outfall of politics and drug companies distorting medical integrity into the business of subjugating the masses. Doctors think they have to find druggable disorders.




I think if you read Kiehl‘s book you might be persuaded that psychology, for so long such a lot of barely philosophical waffle, is increasingly evolving into an honest to God science as the technology is finally catching up. The research into psychopathy itself was supported by peer review studies that proved pretty conclusively that psychopathy was not an abstract or subjective concept, but a physical abnormality (for want of a better word) demonstrably distinguishing psychopathic brains from those of non psychopaths. Not to say that the mental health industry in the US and elsewhere isn’t corrupt as shit of course, but I’m not sure total cynicism is warranted haha!



the CV from Wikepedia:
"Kent A. Kiehl is a neuroscientist with research interests in cognitive neuroscience, psychopathy, interaction of neuroscience and law, and behavioral prediction."
lets us in on the key to his equation:
unraveled backwards
predict behavior in the context of law using neuroscience.
it is a results based approach that is arguably supported by neuroscientific evidence.
I went to https://kentkiehl.com/ which has many links using brain imaging
he is definitely in the middle of it all
https://www.exploratorium.edu/visit/calendar/balance-bringing-science-justice-david-faigman-may-21-2015
however, what he is in the middle of is a bit of a shuffle to be very casually blunt.
The courtroom is where a we find both drama and money for experts upon whom many decisions will be depended.
The offenders will be medicated to docility.
The court will be satisfied that their expert is satisfied,
and the expert can add some technical jargon that can be inscribed along with recommended dosage and duration of sentence.
everything hunky dory.
quoting from Wikipedia
"The laboratory Mind Research Network headed by Kiehl collected the world largest sample of brain scans of incarcerated people using a mobile MRI scanner.[3][4] They also started collecting brain scan of people in contact sports to study effect of contact sports on brain ("Brain Safe Project"). [5]".
this is interesting and truly makes him THE PREEMINENT EXPERT in the field for using portable MRI to record brains from known felons.

We are all familiar with what the results can look like showing areas of greater and lesser metabolism.
This does show how the landscape in one brain is tilted differently than in another brain, however, these brainscapes are blurry, showing the drift of energy usage without any regard to the content of experiences - and I argue that the brain is all about experiencing in real time.

When I see these prints, I see the ruts but not who ran those paths or why or what else was happening at the same time which is very critical.

Those images are not time slices, but time smears, they may show heat where music was playing but they show no music or signal of any kind at all.

This is like the early days of photography, and he is the king of prison MRI photography with all the authority of Mesmer.

I still have to agree that outrageous behavior should be contained, and defanged. I am glad I am not the one who has to do it. I have occasionally wished someone would come and contain somebody that was pestering me, but it seldom gets to the stage that we need to bring in the law, and the experts who are today's Kent Kiehl.


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Re: Any idea if mushrooms can cure me of being a diagnosed psychopath? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27059029 - 11/26/20 04:51 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

If you are a true psychopath that feels no empathy i dont believe psychadelics will cause you to feel empathy. They will most likely teach you to be a more creative psychopath. Charles Manson loved psychedelics.
If you truely are a man that has zero empathy and you are seeking to find empathy then I respect that you are trying to find help but if you are trying to legitimately find help then that would show you have at least a glimmer of empathy inside you. I wish you the best of luck in your journey


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psychopath?

hmm...

there is no cure for boredom, or for the "dont-care" illusions that are part of the "co-morbidity", although, if you can see life as a journey (as opposed to a gift, or a Disneyland ride - no refunds, no rewards) which takes effort and interest, and which is personal and unrelated to the games that go on between self and other, then, this could be a good route for you, trail blazer that you are.

it will take time and effort.
a lot of both.

read up, plan your space, create your own treatment plan, keep notes, make sure there is enough food and drink and hygienic comforts and get busy learning to connect and reconnect. Do not make a game out of it.



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    #27059404 - 11/26/20 10:44 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Ive spent many years around many sociopaths of varying degree and i dont believe anyone telling you that set and setting and psychadelics can give a human empathy. I dont feel many people responding here have spent much time with sociopaths nor have they had psychadelics with sociopaths. I have on 100s of occassions and although some people believe psychadelics cure all mental health they wont do what people are saying sorry


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    #27063674 - 11/29/20 08:10 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Might help. Psychedelics can open new pathways in the brain.

No harm trying. Go large and see what happens.







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I do not believe mushrooms are a cure all for everything. They can hurt you if you aren’t wise about how you use them. Not for everybody


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    #27069180 - 12/03/20 12:16 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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If you are a true psychopath that feels no empathy i dont believe psychedelics will cause you to feel empathy. They will most likely teach you to be a more creative psychopath. Charles Manson loved psychedelics.
If you truly are a man that has zero empathy and you are seeking to find empathy then I respect that you are trying to find help but if you are trying to legitimately find help then that would show you have at least a glimmer of empathy inside you. I wish you the best of luck in your journey




^ this. someone with no empathy and no emotions has no sense of curiosity, and thus, no interest in wanting to know from another person's perspective. in other words, they have no interest in wanting to feel emotions. the fact that you are curious and seeking this means that you DO have emotions, and thus, you are not a psychopath.

if you remain calm under stressful situations, that may not be "normal", but the thing is, normal is not a thing. there is no "perfectly average man" with perfectly normal brown hair, perfectly average 5 foot 9" height, brown eyes, etc... it's just a composite of everything, of which everyone may have a few of these common traits... and a HELL OF A LOTTA quirks that fall WAY outside this average. the thing is, i also stay calm under most stressful situations. earthquake? "oh dammit, everyone move to the exit please." car about to smash into mine head on? first thing i do is react and dodge (while my passengers scream), THEN swear and cuss at the bastard (or honk my horn) after the danger has passed. i've even sometimes continued singing if i was in the middle of doing so while driving alone, while dodging them. :lol: but despite staying calm under stress, i feel emotions just fine, even though when i was younger, i had tons of fears and doubts that i didn't feel emotions at all. it took years upon years to finally realize how silly i was being, especially since my fears of not being able to feel emotions... are an manifestation of emotion itself.

if you let fear be the dominant emotion of your life, it sucks up all the joy, happiness, and other positive emotions out of you. when that happens, you're unable to see the good in things, and the world seems a darker place. even other people's actions and expressions seem more sinister - those people huddled talking to each other? are they just two friends chatting with each other, or ARE THEY TALKING BAD THINGS ABOUT YOU BEHIND YOUR BACK!??! (they're just friends chatting. seriously. or they might be talking about how cute you are, actually. :wink:)

the fact that you are seeking growth suggests to me that you simply are a good person that recognizes that your soul (or whatever you believe passes for one) is sick and is in need of some tender loving care. this is nothing to be ashamed of! everyone, and i do mean EVERYONE, hits these low points in their life - to seek help and growth isn't a sign of weakness, but true wisdom. it's not easy to ask for help, nor to make the decision to improve one's inner self, but it IS one of the best decisions you can ever make, as is improving one's physical and mental health. cultivate your ability to empathize, to feel emotions, and learn to love. start by learning to love yourself - as you are, right now, this very moment, every single talent, and every single flaw. you're not perfect; no one is - but you're a masterpiece in progress, and you got dreams. and if not, that's fine! try new hobbies, see what sparks your interest, and eventually you'll start to understand yourself better along the way. life's a journey - enjoy the walk, don't rush to the end! there's nothing of interest at the end. :P

and might i suggest, maybe possibly move away from your current situation? it almost sounds a lot like my own childhood in some ways. my parents were highly religious, very strict, and i never really fit in there. it was extremely stressful, despite them never really physically abusing me or anything...but i could never be myself around them. it was like a prison, keeping me from growing. it wasn't until i moved away that i finally started to feel happiness and true emotions, and it still took the space of a year or so (and my first shroom trip, ironically - maybe that helped the reality of it set in) to break that depression.

that's just a guess though.


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