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lsd and Mdma
    #27049083 - 11/20/20 02:56 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

So had a pill at lunch time today, I also ended up getting a tab of lsd and Ive never had it before so around two hours ago cut it into 4 and left it on my tongue for 10 15mins then swallowed it, should be 50ug but all im feeling is a bit of a pill comedown. is it a dud?


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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: Plutes]
    #27049096 - 11/20/20 03:05 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like shitty tabs

Never tried LSD with E but i tried shrooms with E - my favourite combo


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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #27049100 - 11/20/20 03:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know if the pill was too strong for the little bit of a tab I took. disappointed, might just take another pill cheer me up


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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: Plutes]
    #27049102 - 11/20/20 03:08 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like your shit is bunk :shrug:


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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #27049104 - 11/20/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Why it says u from UK yet u got german flag ?? :eek:


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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #27049105 - 11/20/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

must be in Germany


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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #27049106 - 11/20/20 03:12 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Or take more of the tab? Its more likely to be 75-100ug so another quarter of the tab would be closer to 50ug.


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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: RichardCranium]
    #27049119 - 11/20/20 03:19 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

tried another bit of the tab, how long maximum does it take to start?


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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: Plutes]
    #27049128 - 11/20/20 03:23 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Live and learn bruh


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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: Plutes]
    #27049130 - 11/20/20 03:24 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

2 hours max you should be able to feel it. If you're nervous about going over the 50ug dose wait at least that long to add anything else.


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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: RichardCranium]
    #27049140 - 11/20/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

should of waited until I was straight headed, struggling typing now


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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: Plutes]
    #27049144 - 11/20/20 03:31 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Oops


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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: JonBa]
    #27049220 - 11/20/20 04:13 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

So either it really was 200ug or the combo is potentiating whatever dose you took. Happy tripping!  :peyotl:


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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: RichardCranium]
    #27049253 - 11/20/20 04:32 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

still not tripping, just feel a little wobbly


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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #27049255 - 11/20/20 04:33 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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Sounds like your shit is bunk :shrug:




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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #27049259 - 11/20/20 04:38 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

somethings not right, I can only compare what happened when I tripped on shrooms, and its nothing like it, been 3 and half hours  :frown:


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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: Plutes]
    #27049833 - 11/21/20 03:31 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Tabs /blotters are usually around 100mics, so a quarter you won't really feel. Even half a tab is not real tripping, 50mics is for me like less than half a gram of shrooms, with no obvious visuals.
100mics is were mild visuals start, even that is still a low dose like under 1.5 grams of shrooms.

I'd have eaten the hole tab at once. Redosing now wont do anything.

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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: Pandemoon]
    #27049917 - 11/21/20 05:58 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Tabs /blotters are usually around 100mics, so a quarter you won't really feel. Even half a tab is not real tripping, 50mics is for me like less than half a gram of shrooms, with no obvious visuals.
100mics is were mild visuals start, even that is still a low dose like under 1.5 grams of shrooms.

I'd have eaten the hole tab at once. Redosing now wont do anything.

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Few days ago I "microdosed" with a 20ug blotter from that company making those scarce chemicals and I was definitely tripping. Not big time but not subtle either - even text was slightly billowy. Similar experience with a quarter 100ug blotter few weeks ago.

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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: funky123]
    #27049926 - 11/21/20 06:08 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I always exaggerate a bit. :smirk: Sure you can feel 20mics, but it's slightly above treshold.

Expecting obvious effects from a quarter tab is kinda naive, imo. There is a reason people eat two or three hits when they want to trip.

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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: Pandemoon]
    #27051555 - 11/22/20 06:34 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I ended up sleeping, but the next day took another tab and half should of been 300ug, half first then a whole one three hours later. All I got from it was slight confusion, felt a little bit spacey, shaky hands. got a bit stronger at 6hour mark. every so often catch some sort of visuals, but it seemed to be hidden behind my normal vision.

It was just not popping. I ended up walking to the shop, in a world of my own and got a thought process going that I don't need the drug to lift the veil, later once I was home started looking online, and saw some people say if they have tap water in their system sometimes you don't get any visuals, or if your a sensing person instead of a visual person. odd because I can close my eyes and visualise objects almost 3d if I concentrate enough, and have very vivid dreams too. I ended up having another pill, didn't come up but more mellowed out and ended up closed my eyes. Then I got visuals but 1000s of different alien faces every few seconds.

Bit more research that could also be the cause is I need to decalcify the pineal gland. I do drink tap water everyday, so could be the cause effecting my trip, I read in the 60s they use to take 1000ug tabs.

surely 1 200ug tab first time should be enough, I guess the only time I tripped before was when I had 12 Cyanescens fresh, only weighed largest 1 at 3.5g and two were pins so maybe 3grams if they were dry, tripped but was over in four hours.

Any suggestions on how I can get visuals, or do you think my brain might be odd. Ive seen people on yt say 50ug is a good toe dipping experience.


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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: Plutes] * 1
    #27051565 - 11/22/20 06:48 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

LSD cannot be redosed as well as mushrooms.
If you start with half a hit and then redose another hit 3 hours later, the redose won't have much impact on your trip. It's still like half a hit, only the duration get extended a bit, the strength only very slightly.
Even with a full hit redosed, the overall feeling gets nowhere near this full hit but keeps beeing closer to the initial dose than the redose.
Instead of feeling the hole 1.5 hits you might get only to what feels like 0.75 hits after you redose. And 0.75 hits is still not really visual, given that most hits are around 100mics and not 200mics.

LSD just doesn't work this way.

Some people need more LSD than others. Just because most people get the full exerience from 150 to 200 mics, not all people react the same way.
I have a friend wo needs three hits to get the effects I get from one hit. He's one out of 20 though.

In the 60s, most hits were around 300 mics. The famous orange sunshine microdots were 300mics of some really clean LSD.
Too strong for many, if you give true 300 mics to an inexperienced user he will most likely freak out and is completly blinded by visuals for hours.
Even 150mics make your entire vision morph and bend like a crazy computeranimation.

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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: Pandemoon]
    #27051588 - 11/22/20 07:06 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I will try again in a few weeks, do want to get a water distiller first, just because it clearly does evidence growth on the pineal gland.

So should I try a full 200ug? and if that don't work try something larger like 250ug from another supplier. Heard so many scare stories in the past, just wanted to see if I could get something out of it and survive.

Seeing the nightmare politicians had since the 60s controlling people, it wouldn't surprise me its propagander to keep us dumbed down to witnessing any other reality.

Even looks like they are deliberately trying to suppress our consciousnesses as a collective.


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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: Plutes]
    #27051765 - 11/22/20 09:09 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, just experiment more till you get what you are looking for.

Do you have a picture of the tabs? Most blotters are laid by a handfull of people only, and many prints are well known. There is the blotter art thread in ODD, maybe someone can recognize the hits and tell you how strong they usually are.

200mics, or even 250mics, is very rare. Usually most are 100mics. Take two and you are floored.

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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: Pandemoon]
    #27052072 - 11/22/20 12:14 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah, just experiment more till you get what you are looking for.

Do you have a picture of the tabs? Most blotters are laid by a handfull of people only, and many prints are well known. There is the blotter art thread in ODD, maybe someone can recognize the hits and tell you how strong they usually are.

200mics, or even 250mics, is very rare. Usually most are 100mics. Take two and you are floored.

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reddit link, didn't take any pics of ones I had
200ug
https://i.redd.it/del7fqybpgr41.jpg

and what is shown as 250ug, seems you can get these just artwork? https://blotterart.com/product/dancing-bears-9-panel-v-2/


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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: Plutes]
    #27052093 - 11/22/20 12:28 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

People have different sensitivities to psychedelics, just like anything else.  People also lay their tabs at different strengths and sell them as doses that are higher than reality (usually two different people). You could easily have gotten tabs that are actually 75ug. There is also the problem of redosng. I don't have enough experience with LSD to say for sure, but with mushrooms anything added after 1 1/2-2 hours will have greatly diminished effects. So, if you're tabs are weak and you delay extra dosing by three hours you could be getting as little as 35ug in the first dose and then when you add the 75ug after three hours you basically just lengthen your first dose, not boost its strength. Anyone with more LSD experience able to corroborate this?

I have drank tap water every day of my life and have never had trouble getting visuals. I actually hate the taste of bottled water.

Edit: didn't see the second page of replies, looks like redosing has been covered


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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: RichardCranium]
    #27052140 - 11/22/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Im going to try and get hold of a testing kit, should be able to know then if it was even lsd in the first place. As I'm normally a lightweight on most substances I can't see why psychedelics would be any different.


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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: Plutes]
    #27052772 - 11/22/20 06:38 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Those california sunshine print tabs seem to be pretty prevalent in the eu at the moment and are listed at 200ug by the vendor(s). I would not completly rule out some cross tolerance, mdma acts on a wide range of receptors and depletes the same serotonin system that lsd acts on.

Been a while since I candy flipped but we always do lsd first and take molly around 2-3 hours in.


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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
    #27052791 - 11/22/20 06:52 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I shouldn't of mixed them, I might of had a clearer introduction for my first lsd experience, where I am at for the moment is I should always test any substances I'm going to consume. suppose that's a valuable lesson in its self.


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Re: lsd and Mdma [Re: Plutes]
    #27053977 - 11/23/20 01:45 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Where I live (South America) mixing LSD and MDMA is called "Candy flip". I did it a lot a few years ago. The first time  I started with half a tab of LSD and half a pill but I'm not sure about the potency of either bc I got them on the street. The effects were great, I felt a strong connection with my wife and we had a lot of sex :evil:

I did some with friends, too. Most of the times near a river, we got into the water, not too deep, and the feelings were amazing. I felt like we were born in the water, we had a lot of fun. No negative effects, just felt a little tense (I could feel it in my jaw) during the comedown, but I'm not complaining.


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