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Hilary Should Have Won 2016 * 2
    #27047954 - 11/19/20 09:27 PM (13 days, 7 hours ago)

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-supporter-voter-fraud-president-viral-video-1546876

I have proof that Hilary was the real winner of the 2016 election. This woman voted twice for trump in 2016. Hilary never got a revote or recount. This is overwhelming proof that Derp Jerp Trurp was absolutely correct: the 2016 election was rigged. In. His. Favor. If there is even one instance of election fraud, whether or not it swings the election, there should be a total revote, right? I mean how do we know DJT didnt pay millions of people to do just that? Hes got the money to do it and all the elitestt connections you could ask for. FFS he used to rub elbows with epstein and the Clintons....


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean] * 3
    #27047956 - 11/19/20 09:28 PM (13 days, 7 hours ago)

This is how stupid the right wing sounds right now...


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #27047966 - 11/19/20 09:41 PM (13 days, 7 hours ago)

The Elite and the MSM  didn't  allow a recount out of fear we would find out about the 3 million Mexicans  that voted in the Hugo Chavez voting machines .


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27047979 - 11/19/20 09:52 PM (13 days, 7 hours ago)

Well we knew they were there because they were shuttled in in taxpayed limousines that said 3 million Mexican march for Hilary. All jokes aside, the right is really kicking themselves in the ass right now and grasping at straws and ita got to be embarrassing.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #27047986 - 11/19/20 09:55 PM (13 days, 7 hours ago)

Just wait for it. She has this.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: christopera]
    #27047994 - 11/19/20 10:00 PM (13 days, 7 hours ago)

Hillary conceded.

Trump, has not.

Huge difference.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #27047997 - 11/19/20 10:03 PM (13 days, 7 hours ago)

She knew when she was beaten and not to act lile a child about it. That is a big difference. Now DJT has his own big nothing burger hes pushing.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #27048004 - 11/19/20 10:06 PM (13 days, 6 hours ago)

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Hillary conceded.

Trump, has not.

Huge difference.




The difference is that Trump lost both votes while Hillary only lost one.

But don’t worry, it’s not over yet.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #27048014 - 11/19/20 10:13 PM (13 days, 6 hours ago)

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She knew when she was beaten and not to act lile a child about it. That is a big difference. Now DJT has his own big nothing burger hes pushing.




:nojustno:

So many irregularities and discrepancies.

:ytho:

Dominion?

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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: HamHead]
    #27048026 - 11/19/20 10:25 PM (13 days, 6 hours ago)

This is his russiagate. Hes got nothing, and hes pushing all that nothing real hard.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #27048032 - 11/19/20 10:32 PM (13 days, 6 hours ago)

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This is his russiagate. Hes got nothing, and hes pushing all that nothing real hard.




Sydney Powell thinks differently.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: HamHead]
    #27048041 - 11/19/20 10:39 PM (13 days, 6 hours ago)

Who gives a  fuck ?


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: HamHead]
    #27048044 - 11/19/20 10:41 PM (13 days, 6 hours ago)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nationalreview.com/news/ernst-slams-powells-absolutely-outrageous-allegation-that-candidates-paid-to-skew-election-results/amp/
“We have no idea how many Republican or Democratic candidates in any state across the country paid to have the system rigged to work for them,” Powell said.

So revote all the elections?


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
    #27048055 - 11/19/20 10:45 PM (13 days, 6 hours ago)

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Who gives a  fuck ?




:shrug:

~72,500,000 America's who cast their vote for DJT.

Dems should welcome recounts and audits. If nothing's wrong and Joe won fair and square, they will have every day of four years to celebrate.

So, why not look into Dominion?

Why not look into DJT 700k lead in PA?

Or three counties in GA with uncounted ballots?

There's so many irregularities, there's no way this election was anywhere close to being accurate.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #27048056 - 11/19/20 10:47 PM (13 days, 6 hours ago)

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nationalreview.com/news/ernst-slams-powells-absolutely-outrageous-allegation-that-candidates-paid-to-skew-election-results/amp/
“We have no idea how many Republican or Democratic candidates in any state across the country paid to have the system rigged to work for them,” Powell said.

So revote all the elections?




So, let's investigate. 

Why do we have foriegn software with votes being tallied in Spain?


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: HamHead]
    #27048066 - 11/19/20 10:52 PM (13 days, 6 hours ago)

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Dems should welcome recounts and audits. If nothing's wrong and Joe won fair and square, they will have every day of four years to celebrate.



The mainstream media doesn't agree.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #27048098 - 11/19/20 11:35 PM (13 days, 5 hours ago)

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Dems should welcome recounts and audits. If nothing's wrong and Joe won fair and square, they will have every day of four years to celebrate.



The mainstream media doesn't agree.



Probably because no evidence of fraud has been presented yet. It seems to me it would make sense to have some sort of proof before spending millions of dollars recounting ballots.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Kwyjibo] * 1
    #27048122 - 11/19/20 11:56 PM (13 days, 5 hours ago)

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Dems should welcome recounts and audits. If nothing's wrong and Joe won fair and square, they will have every day of four years to celebrate.



The mainstream media doesn't agree.



Probably because no evidence of fraud has been presented yet. It seems to me it would make sense to have some sort of proof before spending millions of dollars recounting ballots.






:shrug:


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: HamHead]
    #27048124 - 11/20/20 12:02 AM (13 days, 5 hours ago)

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72,500,000 America's who cast their vote for DJT.

Dems should welcome recounts and audits. If nothing's wrong and Joe won fair and square, they will have every day of four years to celebrate.





  I'll still be mad about this conspiracy nutter nonsense 4 years from now . The almost 80 million people who voted for Biden want to see their candidate that crushed this shit have the same transition Trump did .  The losers that voted for Trump should be more worried about the next election .


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
    #27048127 - 11/20/20 12:08 AM (13 days, 4 hours ago)

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72,500,000 America's who cast their vote for DJT.

Dems should welcome recounts and audits. If nothing's wrong and Joe won fair and square, they will have every day of four years to celebrate.





  I'll still be mad about this conspiracy nutter nonsense 4 years from now . The almost 80 million people who voted for Biden want to see their candidate that crushed this shit have the same transition Trump did .  The losers that voted for Trump should be more worried about the next election .




All Americans should be worried about our next election. Had Trump conceded, many of these irregularities and discrepancies would not have been uncovered and further investigated.

Evidence is mounting, rapidly.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: HamHead]
    #27048140 - 11/20/20 12:20 AM (13 days, 4 hours ago)

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:shrug:



Has any of that been proven in court yet?


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Kwyjibo]
    #27048141 - 11/20/20 12:21 AM (13 days, 4 hours ago)

It hasn't gone to court yet.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27048144 - 11/20/20 12:23 AM (13 days, 4 hours ago)

Then why don't we wait until it has before doing recounts?


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27048176 - 11/20/20 01:02 AM (13 days, 4 hours ago)

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It hasn't gone to court yet.




        Its going to be tried in the court of public make believe . It will probably be a hung jury .


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Kwyjibo]
    #27048178 - 11/20/20 01:03 AM (13 days, 4 hours ago)

I think we are, except in states with automatic recounts.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27048180 - 11/20/20 01:03 AM (13 days, 3 hours ago)

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It hasn't gone to court yet.



Its going to be tried in the court of public make believe .



:lolwut:


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    #27048187 - 11/20/20 01:10 AM (13 days, 3 hours ago)

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I think we are, except in states with automatic recounts.



So what's the problem then?


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean] * 1
    #27048220 - 11/20/20 02:04 AM (13 days, 2 hours ago)

OP you sound mad, bro. Have a Snickers!

The voting "system" is fucked regardless.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27048309 - 11/20/20 05:04 AM (12 days, 23 hours ago)

Not mad at all. Whats with the late 2000s troll tactics all the time?
Also why is system in quotes? Do you not believe a system for voting exists?


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27048546 - 11/20/20 10:36 AM (12 days, 18 hours ago)

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It hasn't gone to court yet.



This isn't strictly true.  There have been many cases already brought and lost by the trump campaign.  Under the federal rules of civil procedure, they have to bring all claims they have under the same suit if they arise out of the same "transaction or occurrence."  In other words, many of these allegations were waived when they brought a suit and didn't include those claims.  The lawyers aren't stupid.  They know this.  If they had the evidence, they would have alleged fraud.  The fact that they didn't speaks volumes.

There may be some straggling theories/allegations that can be brought in court, but so far, trumps lawyers haven't been able to maintain any fraud actions whatsoever.  Every day that it doesn't happen makes it less likely.  By December 1, if they don't file a complaint alleging this shit, they almost certainly have nothing.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: HamHead]
    #27048588 - 11/20/20 11:08 AM (12 days, 17 hours ago)

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72,500,000 America's who cast their vote for DJT.

Dems should welcome recounts and audits. If nothing's wrong and Joe won fair and square, they will have every day of four years to celebrate.





  I'll still be mad about this conspiracy nutter nonsense 4 years from now . The almost 80 million people who voted for Biden want to see their candidate that crushed this shit have the same transition Trump did .  The losers that voted for Trump should be more worried about the next election .




All Americans should be worried about our next election. Had Trump conceded, many of these irregularities and discrepancies would not have been uncovered and further investigated.

Evidence is mounting, rapidly.



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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: twighead]
    #27048613 - 11/20/20 11:27 AM (12 days, 17 hours ago)

The problem that Trump and his lawyers are having is that the rules are different in court than they are in a press conference.  There's nothing illegal about lying to the press, but when these lawyers file papers in court, they have to be based on something.  The fact that trump's lawyers aren't alleging fraud in court says that they have nothing.

Rule 11 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure requires that any paper filed with the court be based on a good faith belief that the allegations are true and supported by evidence.  It's not a high bar, even.  If they can find one person who can testify to something, that's enough to allege it.  Still, in case after case, these lawyers are unable to allege fraud or argue in court that fraud happened.  That's because there is literally zero evidence.  These lawyers know that they can lose their licenses to practice if they present frivolous claims before a tribunal.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Enlil]
    #27048805 - 11/20/20 01:17 PM (12 days, 15 hours ago)

Who determines a lawyer is acting in bad faith though and how does the procedure of taking their license get put into action ?


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    #27048810 - 11/20/20 01:25 PM (12 days, 15 hours ago)

That depends on several things, but in our example, which is federal court, any allegations that are not in good faith are first challenged by opposing counsel sending a rule 11 "safe harbor" letter demanding that the allegations be withdrawn.  If those allegations are not withdrawn within the statutory period of time (21 days in this case), a motion for sanctions can be brought before the court.  The court will then decide whether the allegation/filing is in violation. 

If the federal court sanctions an attorney for a rule 11 violation, that gets reported to the state bar and is grounds for disciplinary action at the state level.


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    #27048863 - 11/20/20 02:17 PM (12 days, 14 hours ago)

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This is how stupid the right wing sounds right now...




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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: yeah] * 2
    #27048880 - 11/20/20 02:27 PM (12 days, 14 hours ago)

You don't have to watch the news to see how stupid the right wing, or at least those dying on the cross for Trump's 2020 election, sound when they act like he will still win. Many of the posts on this site alone are good enough.


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    #27049034 - 11/20/20 04:18 PM (12 days, 12 hours ago)

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You don't have to watch the news to see how stupid the right wing, or at least those dying on the cross for Trump's 2020 election, sound when they act like he will still win. Many of the posts on this site alone are good enough.




But the guy I quoted was implying anyone who questions the election as being stupid. That's a lot different than "dying on the cross" for Trump.


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    #27049039 - 11/20/20 04:22 PM (12 days, 12 hours ago)

He didn't imply that.  He said the right wing sound stupid.  It's not about questioning an election.  It's about blindly believing every stupid claim made by randos on youtube.


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    #27049047 - 11/20/20 04:33 PM (12 days, 12 hours ago)

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You don't have to watch the news to see how stupid the right wing, or at least those dying on the cross for Trump's 2020 election, sound when they act like he will still win. Many of the posts on this site alone are good enough.




But the guy I quoted was implying anyone who questions the election as being stupid. That's a lot different than "dying on the cross" for Trump.



Yeah i never said that...Anyone towing trumps stupid line right now sounds stupid as fuck. It has to be embarrassing. I mostly get my news through the shroomery these days. I follow the links everyone posts to try and get a better understanding of where everyones heads are at. This website is an actually awesome resource to gauge the political discourse in the country.


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yeah said:
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christopera said:
You don't have to watch the news to see how stupid the right wing, or at least those dying on the cross for Trump's 2020 election, sound when they act like he will still win. Many of the posts on this site alone are good enough.




But the guy I quoted was implying anyone who questions the election as being stupid. That's a lot different than "dying on the cross" for Trump.



Yeah i never said that...Anyone towing trumps stupid line right now sounds stupid as fuck. It has to be embarrassing. I mostly get my news through the shroomery these days. I follow the links everyone posts to try and get a better understanding of where everyones heads are at. This website is an actually awesome resource to gauge the political discourse in the country.




In his first post he said "I have proof that Hilary was the real winner of the 2016 election. This woman voted twice for trump in 2016. Hilary never got a revote or recount"
This is a sarcastic comment.
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    #27049055 - 11/20/20 04:42 PM (12 days, 12 hours ago)

I do.  Clearly, you don't.


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    #27049058 - 11/20/20 04:44 PM (12 days, 12 hours ago)

Uh....i made the comment. So yeah I understand it was sarcasm. You understand that this is the same type of framing for trumps retarded arguments right now, correct? That even one instance of voter fraud should force recounts and revotes?


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    #27049061 - 11/20/20 04:46 PM (12 days, 12 hours ago)

I think you're exaggerating.  Trump has two people who were denied the right to cure their votes.  That is literally TWICE as many as the "one instance" you seem to be implying is in play.  If you can't debate honestly, you shouldn't even try.


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yeah said:
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You don't have to watch the news to see how stupid the right wing, or at least those dying on the cross for Trump's 2020 election, sound when they act like he will still win. Many of the posts on this site alone are good enough.




But the guy I quoted was implying anyone who questions the election as being stupid. That's a lot different than "dying on the cross" for Trump.



Yeah i never said that...Anyone towing trumps stupid line right now sounds stupid as fuck. It has to be embarrassing. I mostly get my news through the shroomery these days. I follow the links everyone posts to try and get a better understanding of where everyones heads are at. This website is an actually awesome resource to gauge the political discourse in the country.




So is someone who thinks there's enough things that add up to warrant examining it all through the legal process what you would call stupid?


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    #27049068 - 11/20/20 04:49 PM (12 days, 12 hours ago)

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I do.  Clearly, you don't.



lmao man you're a lawyer you can do better than "no you"
I'm just some guy without any degree at all come on man you look bad

So if someone says "I have proof that Hilary was the real winner of the 2016 election. This woman voted twice for trump in 2016. Hilary never got a revote or recount"
then saying "this is how stupid they look"
He isn't implying that there is very little evidence of fraud and anyone who thinks otherwise is stupid?
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I think you're exaggerating.  Trump has two people who were denied the right to cure their votes.  That is literally TWICE as many as the "one instance" you seem to be implying is in play.  If you can't debate honestly, you shouldn't even try.



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    #27049073 - 11/20/20 04:52 PM (12 days, 12 hours ago)

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I do.  Clearly, you don't.



lmao man you're a lawyer you can do better than "no you"
I'm just some guy without any degree at all come on man you look bad

So if someone says "I have proof that Hilary was the real winner of the 2016 election. This woman voted twice for trump in 2016. Hilary never got a revote or recount"
then saying "this is how stupid they look"
He isn't implying that there is very little evidence of fraud and anyone who thinks otherwise is stupid?
How?



He is saying that.  There is very little evidence of fraud.  Anyone who thinks otherwise IS stupid. 

That's not what you said, though.  You said that he's implying anyone who questions the election is stupid.

There's a big difference between the two. 

And yes, I can do better.  No, your posts aren't worth the effort of doing so.


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You need to get news from sources besides CNN and Reddit.
If you're not aware of the anomalies present then you're hardly doing any due diligence to be informed.



I don't view either.  My source is actual court filings.  So far, that's what is in question...two votes.


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    #27049082 - 11/20/20 04:54 PM (12 days, 12 hours ago)

Its not warranted, because judges have determined there is not enough evidence for any of this bullshit. In states where the margin of error is enough for a recount, sure have at it. But trumps line of bullshit is just that at this point. Bullshit with no concrete evidence as to its validity. At this point trump and his cult are make believing that the election was rigged. Big ole nothing burger. Worse than Russia gate.


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    #27049107 - 11/20/20 05:13 PM (12 days, 11 hours ago)

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https://hereistheevidence.com/?fbclid=IwAR1347xMNTaQyG4rHWiFNyicoQ5mmJbGb2rPxcjHlbrqiCZPVkTlkg6OAyc



That site is incredibly slow, but I'm working my way down it.  So far, I haven't found any evidence of fraud on it.  Any hints about which entries are actually about fraud?


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    #27049138 - 11/20/20 05:28 PM (12 days, 11 hours ago)

I take that to mean that you couldn't find any on that site either?  Okay then.  Unless/until some evidence of fraud surfaces, I guess we have to assume it's all bullshit.


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    #27049231 - 11/20/20 06:19 PM (12 days, 10 hours ago)

My father said, “wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which ones fills up the fastest.”

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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Enlil]
    #27049247 - 11/20/20 06:30 PM (12 days, 10 hours ago)

I followed one of the sources for a claim titled:"Dominion manual states high risk vulnerabilities, remedy is invalidate election". It just states that the machines have vulnerabilities. No evidence that those vulnerabilities were exploited.

https://mobile.twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1327368214238597123

The next one says "computer scientist proves that voting machines can be hacked". Again no evidence that this happened. Just saying it can be done.

Any election can be stolen. So none of them have been valid lol.


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    #27049254 - 11/20/20 06:32 PM (12 days, 10 hours ago)

A bunch of them were links to fox or breitbart articles.  The weird thing about that site is that it says they only want "admissible" evidence, but then it's all a bunch of online articles and nothing that would ever be admissible.  Also, a lot of the articles actually undercut the claim that the site is using them to prove.

I was hoping that yeah had one or two of them that he found particularly damning, but he doesn't seem to have any clue either.


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    #27049258 - 11/20/20 06:36 PM (12 days, 10 hours ago)

People just believe everything the internet and their news source of* choice, and the baby in the white house tell them. When did people start trusting their government like lemmings?


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    #27049280 - 11/20/20 07:02 PM (12 days, 10 hours ago)

Personally I don't find comparisons to the "cult of personality" phenomenon too unreasonable.

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    #27049399 - 11/20/20 08:43 PM (12 days, 8 hours ago)

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When did people start trusting their government like lemmings?



Russia-Gate?
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Russia-Gate?
Iraq WMDs?




Both of those things were started by Republicans . Are you saying they lie about literally  everything ?


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Russia-Gate?
Iraq WMDs?




Both of those things were started by Republicans . Are you saying they lie about literally  everything ?




I thought Hillary started Russia gate?

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    #27049602 - 11/20/20 11:27 PM (12 days, 5 hours ago)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steele_dossier

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    #27050091 - 11/21/20 11:06 AM (11 days, 17 hours ago)

Uhhh , your just plain wrong . Or lying , most likely just attempting to lie . 

 
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https://www.factcheck.org/2019/03/dossier-not-what-started-all-of-this/

I'm going let you have it anyway though , let's just  say your right .
   
      Everyone has a gate apparently . Hillary had emailgate , Trump had Russiagate , and Biden had Hunterlaptop from UkrainianGate .
  They all have this shit going on , looks to me like the playing field is even .

  Remember when everyone said Russiagate would ensure Trumps victory ? That must have been said 1000 times here . Seems really stupid now huh ?


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    #27050627 - 11/21/20 05:44 PM (11 days, 11 hours ago)

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Uhhh , your just plain wrong . Or lying , most likely just attempting to lie .



He quoted Wikipedia.

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Psilynut2 said:
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In an interview about the special counsel’s report, Rep. John Ratcliffe said that what “started all of this” was “a fake, phony dossier.” But a House Republican intelligence committee memo said it was information about a Trump campaign foreign policy adviser that sparked the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation into Russian interference in the election.




https://www.factcheck.org/2019/03/dossier-not-what-started-all-of-this/



That says Papadopoulos was investigated because he knew someone who thought they could get dirt on Hillary from Russia.  It definitely wasn't the Republicans who wanted to stop Papadopoulos.  :flowstone:

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I'm going let you have it anyway though , let's just  say your right .



He WAS right.  Hillary kicked off the Russia collusion nonsense as an excuse for losing.

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      Everyone has a gate apparently . Hillary had emailgate , Trump had Russiagate , and Biden had Hunterlaptop from UkrainianGate .
  They all have this shit going on , looks to me like the playing field is even .



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    #27050636 - 11/21/20 05:49 PM (11 days, 11 hours ago)

When was it proven false?  I think you're making shit up again.


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When was it proven false?  I think you're making shit up again.




The Inspector General investigation by Michael E. Horowitz, published December 9, 2019, expressed doubts about the dossier's reliability and sources:

The FBI concluded, among other things, that although consistent with known efforts by Russia to interfere in the 2016 U.S. elections, much of the material in the Steele election reports, including allegations about Donald Trump and members of the Trump campaign relied upon in the Carter Page FISA applications, could not be corroborated; that certain allegations were inaccurate or inconsistent with information gathered by the Crossfire Hurricane team; and that the limited information that was corroborated related to time, location, and title information, much of which was publicly available.


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That doesn't say anything about being proven false.


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Russia-gate was proven false.  Bidens laptop was not.



When was it proven false?  I think you're making shit up again.



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That doesn't say anything about being proven false.




No, it proves it was made up by Hillary.


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    #27050677 - 11/21/20 06:15 PM (11 days, 10 hours ago)

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Russia-gate was proven false.  Bidens laptop was not.



When was it proven false?  I think you're making shit up again.



Ok fine.  After a MASSIVE investigation, it was never proven true.



Depends on what "it" was.  Russian interference with a U.S. election was proven true to a grand jury, and those cases are still pending in court.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Enlil]
    #27050847 - 11/21/20 07:51 PM (11 days, 9 hours ago)

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Depends on what "it" was.



"It" (Russia-Gate) is the alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian Government.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Enlil]
    #27050859 - 11/21/20 07:55 PM (11 days, 9 hours ago)

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Russia-gate was proven false.  Bidens laptop was not.



When was it proven false?  I think you're making shit up again.



Ok fine.  After a MASSIVE investigation, it was never proven true.



Depends on what "it" was.  Russian interference with a U.S. election was proven true to a grand jury, and those cases are still pending in court.




It's speculative that Russia, China, and others, have been, and will always be, interfering with our elections. 2016 is no different.

Hillary used it to tie up Trump and make a mockery of the FBI.

How would the past 4 years have looked had Hillary not been a part of creating russia gate? And it's strange Biden was the one who mentioned the logan act and Flynn.


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    #27050862 - 11/21/20 07:56 PM (11 days, 9 hours ago)

Yeah, they got away with that one so far. It happens.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #27050890 - 11/21/20 08:06 PM (11 days, 8 hours ago)

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Yeah, they got away with that one so far. It happens.




Who got away with what? And why was it allowed to happen?

Against a elected POTUS?

Internal conflict for sure. It's not foreign countries who are our enemies, it has become our own people who disagree with each other, who will tear this country apart.

Divide and conquer.

Dems say unify when they've been bashing POTUS for years.

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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: HamHead]
    #27050901 - 11/21/20 08:11 PM (11 days, 8 hours ago)

Trump and his cohorts got away with working with foreign agents to interfere with the election. It wasn't allowed to happen. Not every crime can be proven in court.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Enlil]
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Trump and his cohorts got away with working with foreign agents to interfere with the election.



Source, or make believe?


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27050923 - 11/21/20 08:20 PM (11 days, 8 hours ago)

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Trump and his cohorts got away with working with foreign agents to interfere with the election.



Source, or make believe?




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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Enlil]
    #27050954 - 11/21/20 08:40 PM (11 days, 8 hours ago)

The Russian officers sent malicious links to 15 email accounts linked to the domain of Clinton’s personal office, and the “investigation did not find evidence of earlier GRU attempts to compromise accounts hosted on this domain," according to the report.

Looks like they were phishing. Not hacking.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Enlil]
    #27050960 - 11/21/20 08:42 PM (11 days, 8 hours ago)

Trump cracked a joke on national tv, after which Russia never gave him anything, and you want to call that illegal collusion with the Russian Government?  :shake:


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: HamHead]
    #27050961 - 11/21/20 08:42 PM (11 days, 8 hours ago)

And that matters why?


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27050965 - 11/21/20 08:44 PM (11 days, 8 hours ago)

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Trump cracked a joke on national tv, to which Russia never gave him anything, and you want to call that illegal collusion with the Russian Government?  :shake:



It's a part of it. They can't find evidence of more. That doesn't mean he didn't do more. They didn't have enough evidence to convict OJ either.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Enlil]
    #27050974 - 11/21/20 08:49 PM (11 days, 8 hours ago)

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Trump cracked a joke on national tv, to which Russia never gave him anything, and you want to call that illegal collusion with the Russian Government?  :shake:



It's a part of it. They can't find evidence of more. That doesn't mean he didn't do more. They didn't have enough evidence to convict OJ either.




I think it had more to do with how the evidence was handled in the OJ trial.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: HamHead]
    #27050978 - 11/21/20 08:51 PM (11 days, 8 hours ago)

Your thoughts are noted.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Enlil]
    #27051077 - 11/21/20 09:57 PM (11 days, 7 hours ago)

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Trump cracked a joke on national tv, to which Russia never gave him anything, and you want to call that illegal collusion with the Russian Government?  :shake:



It's a part of it. They can't find evidence of more. That doesn't mean he didn't do more.



I understand.  So you saying there was more is make believe on your part.  Noted.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27051078 - 11/21/20 09:59 PM (11 days, 7 hours ago)

No it's an opinion based on years of experience with liars and criminals.


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Twitter suspended his account, btw


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I’m happy that twitter is enforcing their rule against election misinformation. Trump’s account should be suspended.


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you sound like a legit troll right now


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I’m happy that twitter is enforcing their rule against election misinformation. Trump’s account should be suspended.



My impression is that because he's a world leader they don't ban the account, but that situation will be changing soon.


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I’m happy that twitter is enforcing their rule against election misinformation. Trump’s account should be suspended.



My impression is that because he's a world leader they don't ban the account, but that situation will be changing soon.




literally the only reason not to ban him, other than entertainment value I suppose


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    #27066033 - 12/01/20 12:17 PM (1 day, 16 hours ago)

I'm pretty sure that twitter said that Trump's account is given a "public interest" exception at the moment but will lose that once he's out of office.


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Thank you. I am legit.



Okay don't watch the video. People who can actually make decisions already gave him a good listen.


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    #27066185 - 12/01/20 01:51 PM (1 day, 15 hours ago)

These statistical analyses based on presumed voter behavior do not provide evdience of fraud.


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    #27067188 - 12/01/20 10:49 PM (1 day, 6 hours ago)

I read a bit, but skipped over some of the middle of this thread.

Either way, this is some butthurt bullshit. Who cares?

Yes, Hillary should have won 2016. Gore should have won 2000. However, as we all know, there's nothing that gets a republican going more than a well hung Chad or a buttery male. They just can't keep their hands off well hung chads and buttery males. I'm not talking about republican politicians, mind you. I mean the average voter. Mind on the buttered, well hung, male Chad.

Fuck, democrats lost according to the rules, even though the rules were rigged. Move on. Yes, the game was rigged. No, you should not have lost. But you did, so move on.

We don't need to replay every election of the last 20 years. What we need right now is a concerted effort to push, and assist, a Biden Blitz. Nobody gives a fuck about deliberation. We need to push Biden to announce an investigation into Trump, then 20 minutes later announce a task force on covid, then 10 minutes later announce a task force on universal healthcare, then 10 minutes later announce a task force on Iran, then 10 minutes later announce a task force on China...

Trump just showed democrats how to win. keep the republicans off balance, and give them so much "socialist" shit that they have fucking strokes trying to keep track of it. Watch Ben Shapiro's brain melt down when he realizes that even his wife's dry-ass pussy can't keep him glued to the computer screen for long enough to attack everything.

Move on, move forward, and most of all, fucking quit dragging the losers along for the ride.


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Re: Hilary Should Have Won 2016 [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #27067548 - 12/02/20 06:36 AM (22 hours, 27 minutes ago)

Just to clarify I only made this thread to point out how childish the right spunds right now. If the left pulled this same shit over Hilary they'd have a stroke about it.


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