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Thanos407
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Early Un-Veiling
#27047266 - 11/19/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wondering if someone can tell me why the veil on these little guys is opening up at a point when it seems they should be focusing on growing larger? They are very stubby with fat stem bases. This is completely new to me.
By the way, this was one of my first attempts at inoculating anything. This is the result of an All-In-One bag, multiple inoculations due to stalled growth, and 2 full months + of time. I don't see any bacterial growth, definitely no mold, and no unusual smells. I'm surprised I got anything from it, but if it's gonna decide to grow, then it should grow!

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Re: Early Un-Veiling [Re: Thanos407]
#27047370 - 11/19/20 01:44 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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What variety is it that you are growing? IMO, it looks like they have a little more growing to do regardless of the veil tearing early.
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Re: Early Un-Veiling [Re: BrownBear]
#27047457 - 11/19/20 02:42 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Its too dry in there. I would bet high that you'll get some medium sized fruits. I'm seeing may of them coming to a cone shaped tip on their caps meaning they may abort short like. Whats the temp you're fruiting at? Did you dunk this cake? Was it cased? Do you know the humidity levels?
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Re: Early Un-Veiling [Re: mushhead]
#27047462 - 11/19/20 02:44 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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This shit is so dry looking. Poor mushrooms 
What's with the fist sized hole with tape(?) over it lmao
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To me it seems as though its drying out because of its sheer size. As well as it doesn't look cased in any way which is essential for something of that size to retain moisture.
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Re: Early Un-Veiling [Re: mushhead]
#27047479 - 11/19/20 02:52 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yea regardless, if you got to this point, you did a lot right which is great. You're on the right path OP but what size jars is this cake made in? Looks bigger than half pint.
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if it were me I'd dunk it for 12 hours, roll it in dry vermiculite, give it a good spray and make a proper shotgun fruiting chamber. You might've stunted it but I think if you get things right you can still produce well
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PreparationH said: if it were me I'd dunk it for 12 hours, roll it in dry vermiculite, give it a good spray and make a proper shotgun fruiting chamber. You might've stunted it but I think if you get things right you can still produce well
Nah I'd go for a verm/coir casing for this cake. Dry verm just wouldn't do it alone.
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Re: Early Un-Veiling [Re: mushhead]
#27047530 - 11/19/20 03:13 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nah I'd go for a verm/coir casing for this cake. Dry verm just wouldn't do it alone.
Gonna need some extra reinforcements
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Re: Early Un-Veiling [Re: mushhead] 1
#27047535 - 11/19/20 03:15 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Besides that one crater of a hole, I see no holes in your fruiting chamber. And if you're using perlite, you need a properly built SGFC with holes on all 6 sides (which includes bottom and lid).
With perlite, it's especially important that you have holes on the bottom (i mean you need holes everywhere).
Here's the proper TEK for an SGFC:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542
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Thanks for all your replies! My eye is still untrained when it comes to this. I don't know whether things are too dry or too moist or whether there is enough or too much FAE. I started all high-tech with a MARTHA, humidifier, cool mister, and several humidistats when I first started a couple months ago. Now I just spawn to bulk and try to follow TEKs as closely as possible. No more gadgets to give me temp and humidity readings.
But at least now I know what a super dry cake looks like and what will happen to my mushrooms in such an environment. My condolences, mushrooms .
I mentioned in my OP that this was one of my first inoculations... and ocurred over 2 months ago. Took almost this long just for it to fully consolidate. And another 2 weeks on perlite. It was an All-In-One Grow bag from Fresh Cultivators... and I followed their YouTube video here (Fresh Cultivators All-In-One grow bag). The vid didn't suggest a dunk was needed... but I should have known better.
I have several other bulk bins going and have had success using BODs Unmodified Tub TEK, so I don't think I will be spending much more time on SGFC renovation.
My thoughts are now to break up and spawn in an unmodified shoe box with coir and verm. Hopefully that can rebreathe life back into my mycelium. What do you all think about that strategy?
Edited by Thanos407 (11/19/20 05:55 PM)
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Re: Early Un-Veiling [Re: Thanos407]
#27047778 - 11/19/20 05:47 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Go for it, I think without the proper kind of SGFC you're left with little choice in the matter. I would dunk it first before breaking it up though. I'm sure you know how to get coir/verm sub at field capacity. You will at least have the chance at a better harvest than those little guys.
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Re: Early Un-Veiling [Re: mushhead]
#27047801 - 11/19/20 05:57 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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mushhead said: Go for it, I think without the proper kind of SGFC you're left with little choice in the matter. I would dunk it first before breaking it up though. I'm sure you know how to get coir/verm sub at field capacity. You will at least have the chance at a better harvest than those little guys.
Cool. Thanks for your thoughts on this Mushhead!
By the way, I forgot to add in my response up above... this was a 5 lb. All-In-One bag.. came pre-mixed with rye berries and, I'm assuming, coir. So, not at all the size of a mason jar you'd find on the shelf.
Edited by Thanos407 (11/19/20 05:59 PM)
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