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Small number of pins in monotub
    #27046592 - 11/19/20 01:54 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

Hi,

I am working on my first two monotubs which B+ and PE. After transferring from grain spawn to horse manure, vermiculite and gypsum and waited until monotubs were 100% colonized before putting in fruiting conditions.

I have a small fan pointing at adjacent wall and it is clear around my polyfil. Polyfil is packed loosely in top two holes and very tightly in bottom holes. Temperature is right around 73 degrees Fahrenheit and they are getting ambient light from the open window. 

They've been in fruiting conditions for about 6 days and one of the tubs has its first few pins which is exciting but there aren't very many at all. I count maybe 5-8 pins total in the whole 64 qt monotub.

Do I need to wait a few more days or is a low number of pins a sign of it needing something more....fanning, misting, more FAE?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Here is a pic below. the first is the one with the low number of pins and the other has started pinning yet.





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Re: Small number of pins in monotub [Re: Shr000mer]
    #27047061 - 11/19/20 12:19 PM (2 months, 2 days ago)

Your surface conditions looks really good. 
I would wait it out until you get more pins before introducing more FAE.  Although a lot of people on here go into Fruiting Conditions right off the hop.
Up to you mostly, either way, nice job!!


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Re: Small number of pins in monotub [Re: FredsGotSlacks]
    #27050679 - 11/21/20 06:16 PM (2 months, 12 hours ago)

Yeah your conditions seem good; high humidity and enough FAE. In my experience the second flush is often more even/abundant anyway (although not always). IF you see more pins forming later, you can always pick the shrooms that were a bit to early (I do so at least, without noticing any downsides. Not everyone may agree) to stop them from sporulating all over the place.

A second factor might be genetics. If you use a MS syringe there is always a chance of having a bit sucky genetics and therefore low yields and/or uneven flushes. A nice next step might be cloning one of the good looking shrooms on agar, good chance that will result in more abundant flushes. (If you have not already done so ofcourse, just assuming here :wink: )

All the best!


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Re: Small number of pins in monotub [Re: FredsGotSlacks]
    #27093892 - 12/17/20 01:00 PM (1 month, 5 days ago)

Thanks for the help, that tub actually turned out great and yielded about 8oz dried. Sorry for the lack of response, my initial reply didn't go through for some reason.

Results:




From the same batch of grain jar inoculations I did a g2g transfer with one jar to a grain bag and now that one is fruiting its first flush.

The problem I am seeing is that this one is only pinned in the center and the fruits are really small and the veils are already starting to break. They are about half the size (thin and short) of the last tub and also about 1/3 of as many fruits. There is also a little bit of blue bruising on the mycelium.





Changes I made:
I added 6500k led lights on a 12 hr on/off cycle and put a box fan a few feet away pointing away. A few days ago, I removed the fan because I figured that might of been causing the bruising and started misting. Could the fan of caused the issue or any thoughts on what went wrong?



Edited by Shr000mer (12/17/20 01:26 PM)


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